Doom & Gloom, huge hashrate drop incoming for RX 4xx/5xx cards

Discussion in 'Mining & Cryptocurrency' started by Nebell, Jun 19, 2017 at 6:01 AM.

  1. Nebell

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  2. thebufenator

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    meh. If all the RX cards drop, won't the difficulty stop going up as fast?
     
  3. lilbabycat

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    Why this is happening / history of other cards:

     
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  4. Archaea

    Archaea [H]ardness Supreme

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    No mention of Fiji here? (Fury cards)
     
  5. rehab

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    the 1060s are turning out to be highly undervalued IMHO as everyone scrambles around looking for AMD cards. HUSH..interesting, hadnt stumbled upon that one.
     
  6. Nebell

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    Alright so I tested this:

    Dag 140 - No change
    Dag 150 - No change
    Dag 160 - No change
    Dag 170 - No change
    Dag 175 - No change
    Dag 180 - NOPE! 3gb cards :)

    For once I am glad that I bought shit cards lol, these 1060 3gb hash 15mh/s out of the box and 18.5mh/s when oced.

    So by my calculation, my cards will be useless for mining ETH by early 2018, that is if new Dag is every 4 days, longer if it's every 5 days. It's ok, I can take a break and sell these cards around Christmas when everyone is looking for cheap cards to upgrade their kids' computer.
    But a lot can change by that time, they are low power, maybe some other coin will boom.
     
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  7. Probleminfected

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    Just wait until somebody figures out how to get ddr5x working better on eth and it's bye bye to amd cards.
     
  8. TheLAWNoob

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    Theres always other ETHash based shitcoins with smaller DAG sizes.

    I'm making a coin from scratch, but it will be a year before it's ready.

    Is there any rules on HardOCP regarding posting information about your own coin?
     
  9. Probleminfected

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    Tell us more about this coin.

    From scratch, as in you're not forking an Established code?
     
  10. TheLAWNoob

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    Writing everything, including the foundations, from scratch. It's written in C++. Testing will be done on Debian and I already added Windows support.

    It's still in the early stages, but the main goal here is to create a distributed Torrent tracker that is immune to censorship.

    50% of the coins will be mined by securing the blockchain, 50% will be awarded through providing torrent search results and seeding.
     
  11. Edgar

    Edgar 2[H]4U

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    let us premine and let us all be rich please.
     
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    Ethereum Classic is just as, if not more profitable than Ethereum right now. I assume this won't be an issue for ETC since the difficulty is so much lower? Or is the DAG size unrelated to the difficulty?
     
  14. Gilthanis

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    I would run it by Kyle first as the rules only really say no spamming and no referrals. Not sure how he would look at it. Better safe than an unintentional banning.

     
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  15. TheLAWNoob

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    DAG is related to nunber of blocks mined. ETC should have about the same amount of blocks mined.

    Theres many other coins though.
     
  16. GreenOrbs

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    ETH is currently at block ~3,903,590 and ETC is at 3,947,030. Thus, unless I'm mistaken DAG should be similar in size. The reason for this is that difficulty is adjusted for the amount of hashing power so the rate of new blocks should be similar even though fewer people are mining ETC.
     
  17. PiERiT

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    Shucks. I'll have to see about switching to something else once this becomes a problem with 8GB RX 580s.
     
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  18. sparky1_2007

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    Glad i've just been doing mining on my primary rig (GTX 1070) while i'm not using it.