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Discussion in 'HardForum Tech News' started by cageymaru, Feb 20, 2019.
next news disney stop using phones after realizing pedophiles uses them too
There is simply no way for Google to hire enough people to police the comments section across all videos. Short of removing comments completely—which would be foolish, as others have stated—the only option I see is for Google to put the onus of comment moderation on the video uploaders. It's something uploaders should be doing anyway, especially people who upload videos containing children. Surely these uploaders are aware of the kinds of sickos who peruse the internet.
These sick assholes are why we can't have nice things.
As a parent of little children its disturbing the lengths pedophiles will go through to get what they want. Some are in plain sight too. Had a good friend that was sentenced to ten years by the Feds for downloading/uploading child porn, is now released and is a registered sex offender. Came as a total shock as he was a good friend, young, successful and dating hot girls too.
based on my research, do not click on any "yoga challenge" or "Popsicle challenge" twice in a row you you will have a bad time....
Disney is just pull it, because guess who was ads were pushed on the monetized tween videos, i give you a hint, google was not pimpin razors.
read the article and watched the linked video. The guy who made the video is a snowflake looking for attention. There is no pedophilia ring, just some sick fucks who are pointing out time stamps on vids where for the single frame or 2 the home made gymnastics or home video shows the kid in a compromising possession. I guess we should ban Seventeen magazine because some sick fucks can jerk off to that too?
I bet the guy who made this video gets angry and throws a shitfit when the checkout person says happy holidays instead of merry Christmas lol
Yeah it's a little worse than that. Makes my skin crawl.
and sacrifice the holy untouchable profit?
ARE YOU MAD?!?!?!?!?
2 seconds of that was too much.
I think this sort of thing needs to be handled on multiple fronts. Yes, Youtube could be faster/better, that'll always be the case. People need to have conversations about uploading content with their children. Quite frankly, I never have seen the need to upload any family video, no matter what, to any sharing site. All the precious moments I did capture are on media at home. My daughters will on occasion send me some video of them being a goof or showing me something via snapchat; I'm not completely behind the times, but that's not a permanent video that pervs can easily get to, comment on, timestamp and share.
I guess I'm not a fan of sharing, even though I did watch a lot of Sesame Street in my life. Not everything needs to be shared, not everything is precious, and you're not going to be a superstar because you upload your life for others to pick apart.
Dear humans, please skim through the 300 hours of videos that get uploaded per minute on youtube.
Didnt the facebook people snap and need psyc evaluations from having to view all the kiddie porn reported?
You make good points about things most of us take for granted these days. YouTube does indeed do a lot of good. Professor Messer helped me prepare for my Network+ and Security+ exams. Now it's part of my prep for the CCNA. Also, where am I going to be able to watch the Kennedy/Nixon debates on demand?
Perhaps YouTube needs to be separated from Google so it can have its own independent leadership that can focus on its issues more clearly?
YouTube is going to have to choose the option that gives them the least liability. Like any competitor will have to as well.
So completely removing comments won't impact their market if that's what ends up happening. If they force uploaders to moderate their own videos, most will likely only approve a tiny percentage regardless of content because who has the time? So same effect.
I don't really see any way around this. The benefit isn't worth the legal liability of being on the hook for the comment content.
The thing missing from this thread is applauding Disney for this. Disney had done a bunch of stupid shit lately, but this is a seriously good thing. Numerous YouTubers have been calling this kind of crap out for a long time and getting ignored by YouTube. They can't ignore this. This isn't just a problem with what they mention. There are also tons of videos on the ASMR category that are just blatant child exploitation. Paymoneywubby (who I largely can't stand) started making a big deal out of this months ago and literally had his video demonetized but the source video stayed online and monetized. It was pretty damn blatant that Google was willing to ignore it because the videos were huge and were going to silence anyone speaking out. Well they can ignore content creators but they can't ignore major advertisers.
Remember when we used to tell parents to control what their children watch on their computers? And here we are, everyone feckless piece of shit that squirted out a kid now wants all of us to do their job for them.
Edit: ill applaud Disney when they divest themselves of a few huge chunks of culture. They have too much IP, period
Disney has no moral high ground.
They did what they did because of money. People care about these things right now so they are being sensitive to that to avoid their own backlash.
If we didn't, they would be just fine with the comments. It's hardly like they have a history of not sexualizing their cartoons or reinforcing social norms that relegate women as second to men even when the woman is the main character. Disney doesnt have morals, they have shareholders.
Disney pre-2000s = ok. After 2010 = horrible virtue signalling white knights and also being too big to really go against/criticize in the industry
like every other major corp.
how this can be maintained and blown up even larger ever since = politicians having nothing else to keep themselves relevant, cause every other major reform costs their donors money ( same donors, as those whom own pretty much every single significant media outlet in English speaking world)
this is the lowest fruit to harvest.
And that's the problem. If they're making an issue out of peoples retarded comments then it isn't the issue. If people can leave comments then people will point out stupid shit. This is been going on since the inception of YouTube and now they have issues? Now that a number of videos are getting record breaking down votes?
The stuff kids watch is borderline pedo bait. The comments people leave are probably not Disney approved either.
"Well technically I was the one who killed Freeza. That's hot!" And now this video will be flagged and removed cause Trunks is underage.
Not to defend pedos but since when is whacking it to a fully clothed image considered soft core porn. I mean sure some girl might be bent.over and you can see her clothed butt... ooooh so pornographic! Just because someone pleases themself to something doesnt automatically make it porn
I think Disney didn't see Rule 34. That rule applies to ANYTHING. A video with a fully clothed ugly kid in it is going to get someone off. Nothing short of castrating every guy is going to stop this.
Again, removing comments will have a huge impact on their market. There's more than a few sites wanting to be the next Youtube, and they don't necessarily need ad revenue from Disney.
I don't get it. I did the youtube search for both popsicle and yoga challenge, and I get videos of people eating popsicles and doing yoga and gymnastic things. I think a lot of people just have dirty minds and think of sex no matter what they see. I've never seen anything more risque than what we used to be able to see in the Sears Catalog. Girls wearing tight clothes? Sure, But I can see that walking by my house every day out on the sidewalk. This isn't porn.
These are probably the same jerks who think it's funny to laugh at anyone saying the words 'duty', 'Uranus', and other things that 13 year olds giggle at.
I tend to watch youtube a lot when I'm waiting for people, and I've never seen any porn on it.
Just a thought...They could have comments auto disabled for everyone. To enable comments, you have to log in to your account and actually turn comments on. Parents don't want their kids reading comments, don't enable them, or don't even log in. People want to comment or read others comments, they log in and enable them. Put the control with the user and YouTube can remove a lot of liability without removing the comment section.
Having watch the link video in the article, that is some fucked up shit, good job Disney.
Shame we don't have a kill a pedo day. Maybe have a Hitler version for them and kill them off, surely the world wouldn't care if they're snuffed out, or the very least, use them as animal testing.
Agreed! Pedos are one of the lowest scum to plaque this Earth.
IDK, Facebook has a crap team reviewing reports and aren't much better.
Beautiful, ain't it?
Thx, never going to see Scooby Doo the same now....... Always had a thing for Thelma as a kid tho, thicc, geeky, and glasses.
Did you watch the video linked in the article? Those people are linking to specific parts of kid's videos that will creep the F out of parents, coaching kids to do moves that almost reveal parts of their bodies.
Might be a SF, but I wouldn't doubt there's ring, there's plenty of F-up crap out there.
Do you not remember the controversy over the subliminal messages in their movies? Lion King, Little mermaid, Toy Story, ect. Look up Disney controversial. You will find they have been doing this craziness for a long time now.
I suppose another option is to require people to confirm their real identity before they are allowed to comment and upload videos.
How would that make any difference?
It wouldn't be a perfect solution certainly, but pedophiles fear exposure. It would certainly cut down on their number by a huge margin, making things easier to manage.
Maybe, but how many of these are people that exist outside of the US, or western society in general?
These things happen when you have Global reach, not every nation is on the same footing we are or has the same ethics.
That would play in perfectly to google/YouTube's data collecting initiative. I'm sure they would love to do that.
But I bet most reside in Western democracies where there are stringent child protection laws, and this will make them paranoid enough to desist (at least on YT).
Maybe. Probably. But what do you suggest? If advertisers are fleeing—whatever their reasons—then YT cannot continue to exist as is. I would rather have YT in some form than not at all.
i use adblock on youtube for a reason google won't fix their shit i won't be participating in ads...
Maybe, but that seems like a gut feeling rather than a factual claim. I'm not against people having to divulge personal information to comment on the internet, in fact I think it would do a lot to curtail the vitriol online.
Nope, can't watch videos at work. I was just going by the headline. I thought these coaching things were only happening on facebook and ask.fm or some shit like that. It might be on youtube too, but I expect them to be rare as an unicorn. Removing the ability to comment videos because of it, is a terrible idea. And seems like more an excuse than a reason to me.
I don't think it would. I mean look at the public fights people have on twitter. The at this point in our society people don't care.
Most internet users hail from first world countries, which in itself makes it a pretty good bet that these commentators do too. I doubt most are commenting from Thailand or wherever.
It's one thing to sling shit on Twitter, and quite another to publically salivate over children (or even joke about it; just ask James Gunn). These people know what they're doing is wrong—even if only legally—and their sense of self-preservation will kick in when faced with having to make their identities known. Roaches hate the light.
Yet still, they're going to continue to lust over these kids (ugh my stomach churns just typing that) whether they can comment about it or not, but what can you do? In a perfect world I could snap my fingers and all these sick fucks would just fall over dead, but alas that's impossible, and we'll always be plagued by their sort. We're still trying to figure out how to deal with such degenerates in the Information Age. It's a sticky wicket.
wait, was alex jones right again?!
Quick, let's lose our minds and wish death upon people jerking off to children doing children stuff on youtube. Think of all these little girls' lives ruined by the pervs!
Of all the fake outrages out there, the one over pedophilia is the one I distrust the most
Wow . . . one of our strongest biological imperatives is to protect the young. If you don't feel murderous rage towards those who would seek to do children harm, then something is fundamentally broken inside of you.
I've only got peace in my heart so by your logic something is fundamentally broken inside me. Fair enough. I think it's wise to realize that what is being called porn here isn't porn. That's just the language of diplomacy being used to exercise control over people.
so what term should we be using for people getting sexual arousal/pleasure from looking at little kids?
I totally agree that this is a sick world. I have 5 kids myself 3 of which are daughters. I can't fathom why people get their jollies off over young children and yet we have to fight them to keep our kids safe. Its disgusting.
Im just saying that using Twitter as an example people just don't give two craps unless they are trying to hide something. That behavior is probably more evil than being open about it.