Discord has apparently reached out to Microsoft to discuss its sale.

DukenukemX

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For instance, it would be a nice gesture if they released Minecraft's "Bedrock" edition for Linux natively when most of the official development is happening for Bedrock, as opposed to the ostensibly cross platform Java edition (which survives primarily thanks to its long history of modders, but its obvious MS would love to ditch the Java version) .
Minecraft is probably the one thing Microsoft bought that they didn't fuck up. Everyone expected that they would put micro-transactions and DLC's but they didn't. Everyone expect the game to be exclusive to Xbox, but they didn't. The fact that Minecraft is where it is has nothing to do with Microsoft, but shows that Minecraft is such a big game that it exceeds even Xbox itself. Microsoft would love to dump the Java Edition but that would create a lot of angry unhappy Minecraft users. There will be a day when Minecraft will dump the Java Edition and won't have a port of their "BedRock" edition for Linux. The reason why Minecraft is even for Linux was because it was an indie game because lots of indie games port for Linux, and they do that because fans have requested it.
While I see the allure of Discord, much like Twitter and Facebook there are many issues with privacy, security, and discourse being usurped by a single centralized for profit entity with a proprietary client - even if I can give them some credit for offering a Linux version (albeit I do wish it wasn't an Electron bundled application). I'd encourage anyone to get away from Discord the same way I do major social media platforms and similar services like YouTube or Twitch (if you want me to go more in depth on alternatives let me know). While there are many messenger programs now, even a few of them being open source/FOSS/libre the one that I think is the best alternative to Discord is likely the Matrix network ( https://matrix.org/ ) and specifically the Element client ( https://element.io/ ) which has a similar UI and feature set to Discord. It may not be all the way perfect yet, but its open source and federated, end to end encrypted, yet has a bunch of those Discord style quality of life features many enjoy. It can even bridge to other services like IRC , Slack, and even Discord itself with proper plug-ins, provided the service doesn't break these kind of bridges until they are updated yet again. In any case, its a better alternative to Discord no matter what may happen and though it may take quite some time to get people to move over unless Discord totally messes things up, its worth trying to leverage Matrix / Element as a preferable alternative.
No chat program rules forever. For a while it was Skype and then we had Ventrilo and now we have Discord. Privacy is another matter, but what does matter is that these applications continue to be available to multiple platforms like Linux. We don't want another Rocket League where it had perfectly fine Linux support until a big name company bought them out like Epic who doesn't have any support for Linux. Do you see Xbox games on Linux? Do you see the Xbox Game Pass on Linux? It doesn't even work with Wine thanks to UWP. The Windows Store is Windows exclusive... forever, including at some point Minecraft. I don't want to play a game and can't talk to other players because I'm using Linux. Discords Privacy only matters when it starts to cost money to users, which at that point the community will switch again as they've done before.
 

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Of the little I read about this on Dark Horizons, this is an interesting development. Bloomberg reported on this that there's as much of a chance that Discord goes public on the stock market as there is they sell themselves to Microsoft. Either way, this is going to be a story worth keeping tabs on. Out!
 

Domingo

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I really like using Teams for my job. If they could make Discord closer to that, I'd be happy. As it stands, I find Discord to be pretty clunky.
 

Armenius

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Discords interface is already really fucking terrible, so I'm curious to see if microsoft can at least improve that aspect.

I'll honestly be impressed if they can somehow make it worse.
You think they'll improve the interface after what they did to Skype? :ROFLMAO:
 

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I really like using Teams for my job. If they could make Discord closer to that, I'd be happy. As it stands, I find Discord to be pretty clunky.
That's like saying your half-ton pickup truck is clunky, but if it could be more like the 18 wheeler you drive for work, that would be great... o_O

Sure, it would be great if Discord used 2GB+ RAM by itself and had 1/5th of the responsiveness on a good day. :D
 

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don't worry guys, you will still be able to access Discord via an add-on through Teams, with admin access via Sharepoint and settings via MS Access, connections via Active X VBA linking into all components such as MS "Tasks by Planner and To Do", MS "Project", MS "Praise" for reactions, sketches via MS "OneNote", lists via MS "Lists", etc... such a beautifully orchestrated suite of programs, apps, workarounds, reacharounds, etc... it's SO GOOD GUYS!!!!
 

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don't worry guys, you will still be able to access Discord via an add-on through Teams, with admin access via Sharepoint and settings via MS Access, connections via Active X VBA linking into all components such as MS "Tasks by Planner and To Do", MS "Project", MS "Praise" for reactions, sketches via MS "OneNote", lists via MS "Lists", etc... such a beautifully orchestrated suite of programs, apps, workarounds, reacharounds, etc... it's SO GOOD GUYS!!!!
Yep, and within less than a year its functionality will be depreciated and support will be dropped.
Make that limited time count!
 

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I find it weird that people say they like the teams interface but hate discord. To me they are very similar and I actually feel like I navigate discord more easily than teams.
 

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Sadly that is the future. Few games have official forums, and forums are dying left and right. Xbox, Playstation, most new games don't have forms, the ones that had big fan bases were closed. Reddit is a half assed forum but is semi usable. Discord is terrible for information. Everything gets buried and it is impossible to scroll through everything to find the posts. Plus you get dozens upon dozens of notifications for everything. It makes zero logical sense.

Discord itself works as an okay replacement for peer to peer communication or chat rooms. But for discussions and information distribution it makes zero sense.
Oh how I miss the heyday of proper forums, especially vBulletin at its height. Not just as a user, but I made a lot of money over several years developing themes for vBulletin. At one time, one of my prepackaged themes was installed on tens of thousands of forums; the monthly sales from that theme alone paid a big chunk of my bills for years. I also had some high profile clients like Harley Davidson and Paramount Studios (I did the theme for the Star Trek movie official forums). Companies having official forums are a thing of the past. Every last one of the 100+ forums I did one-off custom designs for is now defunct.

All this isn't to brag; it's just a way of pointing out how far forums have fallen from their heights of popularity. Once upon a time, it's where I spent most of my online time, and not just as a developer. [H] is really the only old-school forum I visit regularly any longer. Sadness.
 

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Oh how I miss the heyday of proper forums, especially vBulletin at its height. Not just as a user, but I made a lot of money over several years developing themes for vBulletin. At one time, one of my prepackaged themes was installed on tens of thousands of forums; the monthly sales from that theme alone paid a big chunk of my bills for years. I also had some high profile clients like Harley Davidson and Paramount Studios (I did the theme for the Star Trek movie official forums). Companies having official forums are a thing of the past. Every last one of the 100+ forums I did one-off custom designs for is now defunct.

All this isn't to brag; it's just a way of pointing out how far forums have fallen from their heights of popularity. Once upon a time, it's where I spent most of my online time, and not just as a developer. [H] is really the only old-school forum I visit regularly any longer. Sadness.

Exactly. And the communities formed in forums (ha) were much better than what you'd find in Reddit or whatever else people use.
 

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I'm not a fan of the Xbox Game Pass stuff. I get it seems like a lot of value but most of those games are old and can be bought for less than $10. Right now you can get Control, Xcom, and 9 other games for the price of $12. You get to own those games for what is the price of a monthly fee on Xbox Game Pass. There are plenty of websites that offer most games for as low as a few bucks. Fallout New Vegas for $5.
Tell that to my son - he's always asking for xbox gamepass, and he plays on pc since I converted him from his xbox one x. I use him as my measuring stick for consumer behavior, and when you look at it, they are offering a massive number of games that seem shiny and tempting from a glance. Older gamers that know how to sift through the trash will see it as a pile of indie games and shrug it off, but to kids, it's offering so much they just fall in love. Younger gamers also don't necesarily need to only play quality AAA polished games. They grew up on cell phone gaming and other woeful means. Their perspective on games is far removed from older gamers needs.
Oh how I miss the heyday of proper forums, especially vBulletin at its height. Not just as a user, but I made a lot of money over several years developing themes for vBulletin. At one time, one of my prepackaged themes was installed on tens of thousands of forums; the monthly sales from that theme alone paid a big chunk of my bills for years. I also had some high profile clients like Harley Davidson and Paramount Studios (I did the theme for the Star Trek movie official forums). Companies having official forums are a thing of the past. Every last one of the 100+ forums I did one-off custom designs for is now defunct.

All this isn't to brag; it's just a way of pointing out how far forums have fallen from their heights of popularity. Once upon a time, it's where I spent most of my online time, and not just as a developer. [H] is really the only old-school forum I visit regularly any longer. Sadness.
My son doesn't even use forums 99% of the time. He's either gaming with friends over voicechat, or watching youtube videos. Times have changed.
 

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Discord itself works as an okay replacement for peer to peer communication or chat rooms. But for discussions and information distribution it makes zero sense.
In my experience Discord excels for collaborative efforts for small to medium sized groups. I use and appreciate traditional forums and IRC but for sharing files and feedback Discord is a more streamlined medium. A user can begin using it without signing up (one of the better things it borrowed from IRC) from a browser and its search is also very solid for filtering chat logs.

In terms of longer-term organization for information important posts/files/announcements can be separated into different channels or pinned messages. The forum equivalent would be stickies or having an OP update the first post of a topic with current info (which let's be honest few forums cultivate as a habit).

With forums file hosting (if used at all) depends on the software used and site restrictions but even then it's typically only decent for image sharing and search is almost always a pain (heck, even Reddit as big as it is still has awful search). IRC is great and open for chat but without 24/7 connectivity/bouncers/IRCv3 server-side message history (or public chat logs) it's less straightforward for collaboration, while file hosting still remains a separate thing to consider.

Discord has married a bunch of things together that for various use cases is more efficient. Frankly its biggest downside for some is it being centralized. If it were all open source it'd likely be universally praised.
 
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They do, it's called Ubuntu. Canonical has been in bed with Microsoft for years.
Make it look and behave like Windows 10 with all the pop ups, notifications and data stealing too boot. Even with the semi crappy Win 10 Start Menu. Plus make sure Microsoft is plastered all through it, with Office 365 hints everywhere to buy.
 
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