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Discussion in 'Displays' started by lucidrenegade, Jan 12, 2015.
How and where??
Just buy another Dell and stick the LG in the middle.
This has my attention.
Interested in whether I should try these settings out on my u3415w.
Doesn't it come factory calibrated?
So I have a question regarding the Display Manager software. I know it "seperates" the screen into different parts, but I'm just wondering how it works. Lets say I play a game full screen (windowed mode) and then fire up an inet browser. Can that software then place the browser on the rightpart of the screen lets say (1024x768 res) and then downscale the active game in the remaining left part of the screen? Or doesn't it do any scaling and just seperates the screen? Hope you guys can provide some answers before I take the plunge.
Every monitor that comes "factory calibrated" is calibrated to a certain specification, but they are never as perfect in color representation as you can get with hardware calibration and profiling of the monitor. This really only becomes important if you are doing color critical work such as editing photos or video, and you absolutely need what you see on the screen to be the same as what is printed or what would be seen on another calibrated monitor.
It doesn't hurt anything to make the changes and then let your eye be the judge. If you don't like it, just change all the settings back, or do a factory reset in the monitor controls. The icc profile is the fine tuning and is somewhat specific to the individual monitor and graphics card. It is generated by sampling colors on the monitor itself and creating a look up table of colors. When a program then asks for a certain shade of red to be displayed, the graphics card references that table of colors to tweak the exact color signals to be sent to the monitor. You can always go back to your previous settings if it doesn't look good to you.
Got a Rev A01 today from Dell after complaining about BLB on my Rev A00 Model which came from Amazon UK and well both of them are going back.
The REV A01 which was made in January 2015 wasn't much better than my A00 model it might have even been slightly worse! The picture on the REV A01 model seemed to have slightly better colour on the monitor but after paying £700 on a monitor I wasn't happy with the amount of BLB.
I am so disappointed I thought Dell where top class when it came to high end monitors. Now I am stuck using my TV as monitor until I find the next monitor to buy. Is there anything new on the horizon for curved monitors? I have heard that Curved Samung isn't bad and seems to be getting good reviews.
The Samsung SE790C uses a VA panel, so it wont have IPS glow and the BLB is supposed to be a lot better. The viewing angles are not as good as advertised from what i've been reading and it will cost you a couple hundred more over the Dell.
Thankfully here in the UK the Samsung is around the same price as the Dell monitor!
Outside of the current crop of monitors is there anything worth waiting for that may come to market in a few months? Keeping in mind I am not really that much of a gamer any more so things like Freesync & G-Sync don't have that much appeal to me.
There will always be something around the corner, OLED, GSYNC/FreeSync, 40" 4k monitors, etc.
Depends on what you are looking to get out of your monitor. IMO, these 34" 1440p curved monitors are the perfect package. They are great for games and great for productivity at a reasonable price and the right feature set.
What kind of productivity? Won't working with photographs or images produce distortion because of the curve? That's the biggest thing stopping me from just pulling the trigger.
The same kind of productivity you get when you jump from one screen to two screens.
Well, got mine set up this evening and so far I'm very happy. The curve is cool; I wouldn't say that I'm blown away by it after using the flat LG but I'm hoping that it'll increase immersion in games a bit. Now, anyone who isn't coming from another 34" 21:9 display will probably be gobsmacked. This monitor is undeniably awesome; just not worth a $300-$400 premium over the flat ones IMO. Definitely glad that I didn't pay $1100+ for it; I don't think that it would have been worth the difference from my LG. But if you were coming off of a 24-27" 1080p or 1440p panel, then hell yes it's worth every penny if you're not ready to go 4K yet!
I got mine from the Microsoft Store during the recent SlickDeal and it's an A01. No dead or stuck pixels that I can find. I have very minor BLB in the top two corners, but nothing worth complaining about. I might be able to lessen or eliminate it by massaging the bezel, but at this point I doubt I'll even bother.
Glad to hear that it is A01. Mine comes in tomorrow!
I'm returning the LG Friday. It'll give me a little time to compare.
Did your LG come in the original box? The Dell box is like 3x as big and pretty darn heavy. It's definitely more sturdy but geez it takes up a lot of room vs. the slim LG box.
Really happy with this thing so far. The only adjustment I've made is to reduce the brightness from the default of 75 (which makes the monitor look WOW awesome, but so very bright at night) down to 50. I may reduce it even more and play with the other settings, but the default settings look great to my eyes.
Thanks for posting the deal. I probably wouldn't have this right now if it weren't for you, because I wasn't gonna bite on one of these until I saw that OMG price.
I purchased mine from amazon warehouse deals. It didn't come in the original box, but it did come in great condition.
After returning the LG, the dell will run me $150 more than the LG. Def worth it IMO.
No problem. This had been my dream monitor since the announcement. Glad I held out as long as I did.
A shame it seems though, that nobody here seems to do any of that kind of work to comment on the screen - it's all just gamers.
C'mon photographers/image professionals, where are you?
I want one for gaming but I can't dare touch it since I work in photoshop pretty often. That curve would drive me nuts for design work.
I do CG work mainly, but some photo stuff as well. From the little I've used my flat panel LG, I'll see what I can say.
Any software that uses a timeline or has multiple view windows is great. Usually, with something like After Effects or Avid, you end up tearing out windows to make use of two monitors. Because you can maximize the window to near double the normal width, you can have multiple views and tables open at once without having to arrange anything more than a preset layout. The time line is HUGE, and it's real handy not having to arrange everything for a new project.
I have yet to see a 21:9 monitor that does 99% Adobe RGB so you wouldn't really want to do print checking or high end color grading, but sRGB is fine for anything going on the web. I'm sure there is a little distortion from a curved monitor in the sense that most people who view photos or videos online don't have a curved screen, but I can't imagine it's too huge for most uses.
The general feeling I get from this thing is that I can simply replace my two previous monitors with one rather than making it the centerpiece of a triple screen setup. There's enough horizontal space to have a program open to about 3/5 of the screen and have it equate to a 27" 16:9 with another 1440 squarish space for reference or netflix of whatever.
Well, I expected that of the flat panel LG.
My problem is that the flat panels have already pretty much died out. If you buy LG you're at the mercy of warranty, and AOC are the same. The only safe choice, Dell, only do a curved one.
My problem is how the curved one would work for photoshop and so on, because if the distortion is there it could throw off your workflow especially with straight lines if you're doing some web design/working with photos, at least that's what I believe. Problem is that it is hard to get an accurate sample view of it.
This would be a non issue if Dell did a non curved one, but alas, looks like the curve is here to stay.
Got my Dell U3415W. The glow is pretty bad on anything really dark. Fortunately you don't notice it once you throw color on the screen.
Really love it so far. The stand is nice and the picture quality is amazing.
Is the 34" curved Dell EXACTLY the same as the 34" LG curved in terms of input lag and other important features ? I ask as the Dell appears to be cheaper in Australia but I wouldn't buy it if it didn't offer the same decent response time/input lag as the LG model.
My googling says it is the same panel, so the lag and the like should match up, but I have not seen a comparison to confirm or deny.
I'm curious about this... I've got the money to do a major monitor upgrade now (bonus time), but if I wait too long I'll inevitably spend it on something else. I play some medium-fast motion games (light BF4, lots of flight sims, some RTS), and was wondering if I'd regret not going with a GSync monitor or waiting for the 21:9 GSync Acer. The problem with the Acer is it's likely not going to be purchasable without a lot of luck before mid-summer at the earliest.
I'm really drawn to the 21:9 form factor for flight and racing sims (what I do most of when gaming), but I'm wondering how much you noticed/missed the motion clarity of the Swift when you switched to the Dell?
For anyone getting the TUSB3410 boot device issue, Dell has posted a fix located here: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/peripherals/f/3529/p/19614674/20739117#20739117
I know installing or not this Texas instrument driver does not change the way the monitor behaves but I cannot understand how Dell can mass produce a product and not be aware of this problem until someone tells them about it on there forums. I mean it doesnt take a genius to see this unknown device in youre device manager once you plug in the monitor.
Wheres the quality check??
Early HP ZR24W monitors shipped with incorrect EDID information. I had to get them to replace my older monitor with a new one when I went to a triple monitor setup after a couple years because Eyefinity refused to configure with different EDID info. Shit like this happens all the time with consumer products... :shrug:
Dell U3415W review is up. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u3415w.htm
shame about the 25ms display lag.
Wow that review was incredibly well done.
I think I'll let 34" mature a bit more.
I have had the U3415W for the past 4 weeks, and today it is going back to Dell. I thought I would post my experiences, both good and bad, with what is really a very nice monitor, but in the end not for me.
21:9 is an awesome form factor for desktop applications and gaming. Having multiple programs or web pages open side by side is a dream for productivity. For viewing of movies and video it is mixed. 16:9 content is no different on this monitor than a 27" 1440 monitor. Unfortunately most DVD's, Blu-ray, and online streaming movies are delivered in 16:9 aspect with letter-boxing of the movie. Unless you have software that can expand the movie to fully utilize the 21:9 monitor, you are still left with watching a movie in the center of the monitor with black borders on all 4 sides. I have Win DVD pro 11 which would only expand the aspect horizontally, but not vertically, distorting the picture. I found an old trial version of Total Media Theater 6 that would display a movie correctly, fully expanded to fill the screen, but this only lasted for the 15 day trial. The company no longer supports or sells the software. I'm sure a pirated copy could be found somewhere, but I was not interested. Other software may be out there, but none I could find.
Light bleed and IPS glow:
It's IPS glow much more than any lightbleed. My screen was very similar to the one pictured in the TFT central review with light bleed in the upper left corner being the worse. This was tolerable, but the IPS glow is much worse. This can't be avoided due to the wide aspect of the monitor. It was very distracting to me when viewing dark scenes in movies or gaming. It also plays a role when photo editing dark pictures.
I found the curvature of the monitor both a plus and a minus. It is great for viewing video and gaming. After some time, I did not notice it much with desktop work and it seemed very pleasing. It does distort what traditionally should be straight lines. Your brain/eye gets used to this with most applications, but I am an amateur photographer and do a fair amount of photo editing. This for me is where the curve really negatively impacts my enthusiasm for this monitor (or any curved screen for that matter). After a lifetime of expecting photos to be presented as a flat picture, I can not get used to editing curved pictures. This becomes very noticeable with any picture containing straight lines of buildings, fences, etc. This became the final decision for me to send the monitor back.
Overall, I think the Monitor is perfect for anyone who will not be bothered by the few negatives I posted above. The overall look and build quality is very nice and very typical of every quality Dell monitor I have worked with. The anti-glare coating is very nice and does not distract from the quality of the display. In general desktop use, it is one of the best monitors I have worked with. Unfortunately, I could not get past the other downsides of a curved, very wide IPS display. For me, I will be going to a more traditional flat screen, and probably back to 16:9 or 16:10.
Is it me, or does it seem in most of your pictures that you have almost no BLB to speak of at all? Same goes for the picture in the TFTcentral review, in the photo it seems like there is no noteworthy BLB, it might just seem like that in the picture but that would be nice to know.
Reason i'm asking is i've received my own u3415w and would really like to get some input on my screen, i have installed the color profile that you mentioned and done some tests.
Now i am very sorry for the crappy pictures and hope they are of any help at all, but on my phone they did really represent the image we were seeing in the flesh. My girlfriend agreed.
Dark room, Brightness 34 / Contrast 87 / Color preset GAME
Dark room, Brightness 48 / Contrast 87 / Color preset GAME
Bright room, Brightness 34 / Contrast 87 / Color preset GAME
Now to elaborate just a little, the top right and top left are the worst offenders and the most easily visable. The bottom left corner is mildly visible and the bottom right is hardly visible.
As you can see, in a dark room the lightbleed IS clearly visible but not overly annoying or anything unless youre watching a completely black screen. While watching a movie you can see the light especially in the top half of the monitor (setting a resolution of 1920x1080 to get black bars ), but its not super distracting. In a bright room, with contrast set to 34 the BLB is very hard to see at all and while normally playing a game you dont see anything.
What do you guys think, is it bad or normal? Im especially asking since i've seen a few photos where i hardly see anything at all, and if that really is the case i abviously do wish for something with the least amount of BLB. By the way, the IPS glow that i think i see close up is something i can accept since all of these monitors seem to have that.
Judging from your phone pictures, I would say your monitor is typical and similar to the one I had. Phones tend to overexpose the screen and exaggerate the BLB. That's why your screen has a very grey quality in your pictures and not black. You will notice in the TFTcentral review and the pictures I posted, the screen itself is very dark, almost black centrally, in a very black environment. I see nothing unusual in your screen that was not present on mine. In a bright room, I could not discern any BLB either, only in the dark and with dark content on the screen. I would not let it worry you and enjoy the monitor.
The only time that the blb really bothered me was trying to play amnesia at night.
Been trying to get a hold of one for 3 weeks now. Might have been lucky now...
fifth time's a charm!
You can't really compare them apples to apples just because they have the same panel. Most input lag comes from electronics and software driving the panels.
So after a month of searching, i finally got one in my hands and i can tell that, my A01 looks exactly like what you can see in your pictures. I think i will live with it, and in case they produce an A02 which improves in this field i will sell and rebuy, because it's actually a very nice screen all around still
Newegg currently has stock and there's a 10% promo code floating around for this. . . bringing it down to $994 before tax and shipping.
I wonder if I'll be protected from bad pixels and such if I go with Newegg. Would Dell not help in that situation? (EDIT: Looks like the "Premium Panel Guarantee" is listed in the specs on newegg, that's good)
One last question: Where does the average Joe get ahold of those Dell promo codes when trying to purchase directly from Dell (sorry to probably repeat that question).
Go to Dell.com, and click on "My Account" near the top. Then on "Create Account", and check "Please email me offers.."
They'll send you various coupon codes (several times each and every week).
Alternatively, just go to Dell.com, and click on "For Home", then "Deals", then "Coupons" ..should mostly be the same codes, I think.