Dell U3219Q - 32" 4K Monitor with HDR400

chongl

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It looks like the refresh to the Dell UP3216Q is announced and it supports HDR400. They finally got rid of the thick bezels and moved onto the infinity display that is prevalent in their other products. I'm looking to replace my U3011 with a 4K piece and I might bite the bullet on this display when it releases. Any other alternatives on the horizon I should be considering? I considered the 38" ultrawides, but since I only do light gaming, I still prefer a non-curved display for my photo editing. High refresh rate isn't as big of a deal for me as color accuracy and resolution.

Thanks!
 

gan7114

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FYI, this isn't a replacement for the UP3216Q, as seen by the prefix letters. Dell uses a fairly straight forward naming convention for its monitors. Although it's never really been said what the prefixes stand for, we can take a rough guess given the names and/or features of each line:

UP = Ultrasharp PremierColor (high end professional)
U = Ultrasharp (low end professional)
P = Professional (business oriented)
S = Standard (home oriented)
E = Efficient (eco friendly)
M = Medical

This monitor does have wide gamut (95% DCI-P3 from what I've read) and a good static contrast ratio for IPS (1,300CR). It is technically 10bit, but I've read that it's actually 8bit + FRC, which would make sense with it being a "U" monitor. If that matters to you. On the flip side, all "UP" monitors have premium features like being true 10bit and being able to calibrate on the hardware end using the monitor's 3D LUT.

Still looks like a good monitor though, all things considered.
 

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No G-Sync, no FreeSync, no buy. Come on, Dell. How about releasing a real monitor?

U (like UP) isn't a gaming product lines and don't get gaming only features. Gsync/Freesync are only on S (standard) and AW (Alienware) product lines.
 

HiCZoK

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Dell is shit nowadays. Even their Ultrasharp line does not guarantee anything and it's not a safe buy as it used to be years ago.
The "thin" bezels is a thing that ruined dell monitors and backlight quality. There is areason peoples till buy 15h displays.
Besides - this is just a 32" 60hz monitor... ips at that so imagine the glow of 32" ips at desk distance. The price is too high
 
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Greyson

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One or the other should be on every monitor released.

G-Sync inflates the cost dramatically and you end up paying premium prices for very mediocre panels.

The "thin" bezels is a thing that ruined dell monitors and backlight quality. There is areason peoples till buy 15h displays.

You can have thin bezels and minimal to no backlight bleed if the display is well made, Dell just has particularly bad QC and a laughable warranty these days.
 

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G-Sync inflates the cost dramatically and you end up paying premium prices for very mediocre panels.

If G-Sync unit production rises, cost will go down.

But I didn't say every monitor released should have G-Sync, I said that it should have one or the other. Personally I'd prefer the superior G-Sync implementation of variable V-Sync to pair with Nvidia's superior graphics cards, but I'd also still want to have FreeSync over nothing at all, especially as Intel is very likely supporting FreeSync in their next GPU iteration.
 

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If G-Sync unit production rises, cost will go down.

This is a fair point, but I wonder how much is production overhead vs. simply paying for the "nvidia" name. Either way it would be nice to see the cost go down, but I haven't seen much sign of that happening yet.
 

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This is a fair point, but I wonder how much is production overhead vs. simply paying for the "nvidia" name. Either way it would be nice to see the cost go down, but I haven't seen much sign of that happening yet.

It's an economy of scale issue at multiple levels.

The current G-Sync modules which provide a superior implementation are essentially customized FPGAs, which are very much not cheap. And lacking market demand (manufacturer demand in this case), there's very little reason for Nvidia to spend the resources to design a custom ASIC to bring the per-unit costs down.

It'd still be more expensive simply because FreeSync is a pretty half-assed way to do it, G-Sync solved the whole problem from the get-go, and AMD has since made up some but not all of the ground with FreeSync.

Of course, I will maintain that FreeSync is still better than nothing ;).
 

ken t

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It looks like the refresh to the Dell UP3216Q is announced and it supports HDR400. They finally got rid of the thick bezels and moved onto the infinity display that is prevalent in their other products. I'm looking to replace my U3011 with a 4K piece and I might bite the bullet on this display when it releases. Any other alternatives on the horizon I should be considering? I considered the 38" ultrawides, but since I only do light gaming, I still prefer a non-curved display for my photo editing. High refresh rate isn't as big of a deal for me as color accuracy and resolution.

Thanks!

I was using the u3011 until yesterday, when I got the u3219q. It is a worthy upgrade, even without the "P", although I'm not doing color correct work at all. I'm driving it at 4k off a 35 foot display port cable as well as a 6 foot hdml cable. I do have some random video glitches off the long displayport cable, so I'm getting a new 35 foot hdmi cable, which will hopefully address that. the displayport ran fine at wqxga on u3011, but I hope it's just the lack of cable quality to drive 4k at that distance. the other issue is that it didn't like my 35' usb2, but I had a 35' usb3 cable which it likes just fine.

every thing works basically the same, I like the new controls, but not as nice as the old location. haven't tested the usb-c yet, nor any HDR content. I was looking at the LG 32UK950, which has displayhdr 600 and freesync, but I didn't think those features are worth the extra $400.

(for those interested, it was provantage that had these in stock. seems a bit early, so I attached photographic proof :)

ken
 

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U (like UP) isn't a gaming product lines and don't get gaming only features. Gsync/Freesync are only on S (standard) and AW (Alienware) product lines.

The fact that "gaming" and "productivity" monitors exist as separate products is a testament to how shitty the monitor manufacturing industry is. Like you can't do both. Like gamers don't want accurate colors. Like productivity people want input lag.

Seriously, fuck this industry. FUCK IT.
 

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G-Sync inflates the cost dramatically and you end up paying premium prices for very mediocre panels.



You can have thin bezels and minimal to no backlight bleed if the display is well made, Dell just has particularly bad QC and a laughable warranty these days.


Bullshit. G-Sync modules are at most $300. So charge $300 more. I'd rather have one good monitor than 6 billion worthless ones.
 

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I unfortunately went through two of these panels this week (via Amazon). I lost the panel lottery both times.

Here you can see the two panels in a lit room at 50% brightness with a black image.

Panel 1
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Notice that all 4 corners are noticeably bad.

Panel 2
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Notice that the lower right corner is especially bad.


I really wanted to like this panel, but I'm not sure if I want to try ordering another. I might wait a couple months and see if another revision fixes this mess.
 

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I unfortunately went through two of these panels this week (via Amazon). I lost the panel lottery both times.

Here you can see the two panels in a lit room at 50% brightness with a black image.

Panel 1
View attachment 109564
Notice that all 4 corners are noticeably bad.

Panel 2
View attachment 109571
Notice that the lower right corner is especially bad.


I really wanted to like this panel, but I'm not sure if I want to try ordering another. I might wait a couple months and see if another revision fixes this mess.
Looks like 50% is too bright for the lighting conditions. Properly calibrate to 110 cd/mm² and take the picture again (if you still have it, that is). Uniformity issues with the corners is typically an issue with frame and/or bezel assembly being too tight around the corners and can be alieved by loosening it up. Also, even with full frame dimming HDR like this panel, turning HDR on will improve the contrast and brightness significantly (again, if properly calibrated).
Is this a glossy or matte screen ?
From the photos above, looks like it is semi glossy.
 

HiCZoK

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I unfortunately went through two of these panels this week (via Amazon). I lost the panel lottery both times.

Here you can see the two panels in a lit room at 50% brightness with a black image.

Panel 1
View attachment 109564
Notice that all 4 corners are noticeably bad.

Panel 2
View attachment 109571
Notice that the lower right corner is especially bad.


I really wanted to like this panel, but I'm not sure if I want to try ordering another. I might wait a couple months and see if another revision fixes this mess.
Looks exactly like three u2417h I had. Dell now have this shitty bezels. not only they pinch the screen in various places, they also ruin observed contrast. I would take old bulky style any day if the quality was better.
It is a very expensive montior and this should not be a thing.
 

skyform

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I unfortunately went through two of these panels this week (via Amazon). I lost the panel lottery both times.

Here you can see the two panels in a lit room at 50% brightness with a black image.

Panel 1
View attachment 109564
Notice that all 4 corners are noticeably bad.

Panel 2
View attachment 109571
Notice that the lower right corner is especially bad.


I really wanted to like this panel, but I'm not sure if I want to try ordering another. I might wait a couple months and see if another revision fixes this mess.

Wow, that's really bad for such an expensive monitor.

For example Asus and LG in the same price range seem to have a lot better uniformity.

Asus uniformity at 2:28


LG uniformity at 1:42


Dell seems to be the worst when it comes to uniformity at least with the expensive models, the cheaper one all have this problem but the expensive shouldn't, who is going to pay so much for such a shitty panel.
 

HiCZoK

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Dell is the worst. Their thin infinity shit bezel just cramps on the screen from different sides. It looks like crumbled paper
 

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I got one. I like it. Sadly I'm a bit on the fence as to whether I prefer 100% scaling vs 125% but probably 125 will suit the family better. I'll get their judgement later. Overall it has a few uniformity issues but not gigantic. Picky folks may be unhappy but I'd say "try it if you think you might like it" because overall it's a keeper especially with the holiday sales going on.
 

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I got one. I like it. Sadly I'm a bit on the fence as to whether I prefer 100% scaling vs 125% but probably 125 will suit the family better. I'll get their judgement later. Overall it has a few uniformity issues but not gigantic. Picky folks may be unhappy but I'd say "try it if you think you might like it" because overall it's a keeper especially with the holiday sales going on.

I played with 100% on my 32" 4k for a few hours before going to 125%. I found the text was just legible at normal sizes; but any page/application/etc that wanted to use smaller than normal text was really hard to read.
 

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Yep, agreed. I settled at 125% for the most part. Funny the kids settled on 150% and they usually like things tiny. I was quizzed by my daughter "you aren't getting rid of that monitor are you?" She well knows some things come into the house as experimental. This one, however is a keeper. But at 125% size I'm awfully close to the same dot pitch as 37.5 @ 3840x1600, maybe a tiny bit smaller so I can well see that 37.5 is in the future. But that will join this one (maybe in a separate desk/room) not replace it. Both have their uses and they got the family thumbs up of approval.
 

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I'll add one interesting fun fact about the functionality of the U3219Q. I have a desktop machine going in through the DP 1.4 (standard fare). But I also have a Surface Book 2 that I connect via USB C, which very interestingly enough, has enough power running back through the cable to keep the SB2 charged while in use as long as I'm just using the U3219Q as the output (meaning the SB2 screen is off). This allows me to run my usual 12 hour workday without having to keep a Surface Dock attached or a Surface PSU. I just run USB in for the keyboard/mouse (although I could use BT accessories) and run the USB C to the monitor and can run 4K all day long.

Some folks may have a similar use where your device can charge via the USB C so I thought it would be worth noting.
 
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