Dell S2716DG, 27" 2560x1440 144hz 1ms "G-Sync Gen II", DP+HDMI

Armenius said:
I can see the crosshatching in that picture that is the telltale sign of a medium to heavy AG coating. The TFT Central review mentions a medium AG coating for the Freesync version of this monitor, as well.
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I have the Acer right next to an LG 34UM95 and the AG coating is almost exactly the same on both monitors. I'm going to assume that Acer used the same AG coating on this model that it did on the Acer XB270HU bprz.
 
I just ordered this monitor from Amazon sold by amazon for 666.36 plus i had 30 bucks in points which brought the price down for me to 636.

It will be replacing a BenQ XL2720Z which I really like but I needed another monitor in the house do to my daughters old VA panel starting to show signs of failing.

I will post my results when I get it.
 
Can anyone comment on the colors? I know its a TN but I am upgrading for an Asus VG278H, which is an older model 120Hz 1080 TN panel.

Never used an IPS display so I shouldn't be biased towards its color reproduction.
 
I got mine yesterday. I definitely need to spend more time with it before I make any major decisions / calls. This is my first TN panel as I am coming from a 40" Samsung tv (s-pva) that I've been using for the last 7-8 years. TN viewing angles are definitely a concern since it is a 27". I was prepared for this however it is a bit more than I thought it would be personally. If you've used a TN before and are ok with it I'm sure it wont be anything new.

The colors are definitely washed out without tweaking anything however adjusting the gamma helps tremendously. I think I've got it pretty good but I am looking forward to TFT Centrals settings. From a tweet they just made it should be up tomorrow afternoon. This is my first time tweaking settings so I don't know exactly what I am doing but it looks much better now.

As far as the pixel inversion goes, I need to do more testing. Honestly for me it is hard to see by swinging my mouse cursor around. It does seem like I have vertical lines when I do it though. I am going to record a video tonight and see if I can see it clearly in that. I spent most of my day yesterday playing Fallout 4 and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. I also tested CS:GO and GTA 5 for a few minutes and didn't see anything strange.

I can't believe how much of a difference there is between 60hz and 144hz. Everything is so much smoother and I am very happy with that. I wont say that I am unsatisfied with the monitor but I'm also not blown away by it either. If I have pixel inversion and never notice it during gaming or daily use then it is irrelevant. I'm just concerned that it shows up more at a later date or in a different game after I cant return it any longer.

I've continued reading over both threads on overclock.net and it is clear that all of these monitors have issues. It truly is a lottery at this point. The bottom line is you get to pick your poison. If you want bad viewing angles and pixel inversion, get the Dell. If you want bad bleeding and color uniformity issues, get the Asus. I feel like most people aren't going to fully inspect their new toys or even do much research on them to begin with. I have to wonder how many people are actually going to notice these issues. I am seriously considering ordering a PG279Q off of Amazon if they have stock and sending back whichever one I dislike more. Unfortunately it feels like I'm keeping whichever turd shines more.
 
Gussboy said:
Can anyone comment on the colors? I know its a TN but I am upgrading for an Asus VG278H, which is an older model 120Hz 1080 TN panel.

Never used an IPS display so I shouldn't be biased towards its color reproduction.
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The panel in this display is true 8-bits per pixel, while the VG278H was 6-bit+FRC (dithering used to achieve 16.7 million colors). The VG278H had pretty poor color and contrast, but it was one of the first 144 Hz displays out there. I had one myself before getting a PG278Q, which uses the same panel in the S2716DG,and it is on a whole other level. It may have better color than that in the popular IPS-based AHVA panels being used these days.
 
Received my Dell and overall it looks great!

I am getting mouse trail artifacts (pixel inversion?) on an all white backgrounds

Currently my brightness is at 30 and contrast at 65. I also lowered my gamma from 1 down to .91.

I have some minor backlight bleed along the bottom of my screen on dark backgrounds. Also I have one dead pixel around the middle of my screen.

Should I send it back for a replacement due to the backlight and 1 dead pixel you think? Hmm tough call.
 
I can confirm my monitor has pixel inversion as well. I actually first noticed it watching a twitch stream but I was just testing CS:GO again and can definitely see it. If I catch Amazon with some PG279Q's in stock in the next few days I'm going to order one and send back whichever monitor I like least.
 
For Canadians interested in this, MS Store Canada currently has it for $699 CAD (also 10% edu discount available) due to an exchange rate price error.
 
That's a great price, especially if you can take advantage of the education discount. I can't see Dell matching it with the upcoming Black Friday sales.
 
Well I will test mine tonight it was delivered today.

The review looks pretty good i skimmed through it a bit. Its at least as good as the Asus rog 278 tn model and its already cheaper on amazon.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
Very good comparison, but you completely missed out one of the key features and improvements the Dell has over the Swift, the HDMI port and capability to hook up consoles and such.
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While I did mention the HDMI port in passing, you are correct that I didn't specifically point that out as a positive for the Dell. I guess some could find it useful, but not totally sure how large of a percentage of people would ever used a G-Sync computer monitor for TV console games.
 
Vega said:
While I did mention the HDMI port in passing, you are correct that I didn't specifically point that out as a positive for the Dell. I guess some could find it useful, but not totally sure how large of a percentage of people would ever used a G-Sync computer monitor for TV console games.
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Ugh, so many people say that: "Why use a high end monitor with features that a console can't even support?"

That's not the point of having an HDMI port AT ALL. The point of it is to give the monitor extra flexibility so that you CAN use a console on it, as opposed to not being able to use ANYTHING besides a PC on it.

If you have consoles and you game with them in your PC room then the option to hook up to your monitor is a huge plus. Again, it's the *option* that's useful, not that a Gsync 144hz 1440p display would be some kind of improvement over a standard monitor for consoles.

The HDMI port may add nothing for PC-only users who will never ever hook anything else up to it, but for users who desire that option then it's definitely a big selling point. It definitely doesn't *detract* anything for someone who would never use it, either.
 
Well I received a perfect panel, no BLB or dead pixels. The Dell has better colors and panel uniformity than my BenQ XL2720Z.

The screen coating is a bit heavier on the Dell, but it is a keeper for sure.

I used the setting from TFT Central and they seem fine, i will tweak a bit more and see what happens it has only been on for 1 hour.

I took a pretty big hit in frame rates on the one game i tried. G-sync seems awesome so far as I did not notice any difference in the feel of the game even though my fps were halved.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
Ugh, so many people say that: "Why use a high end monitor with features that a console can't even support?"

That's not the point of having an HDMI port AT ALL. The point of it is to give the monitor extra flexibility so that you CAN use a console on it, as opposed to not being able to use ANYTHING besides a PC on it.

If you have consoles and you game with them in your PC room then the option to hook up to your monitor is a huge plus. Again, it's the *option* that's useful, not that a Gsync 144hz 1440p display would be some kind of improvement over a standard monitor for consoles.

The HDMI port may add nothing for PC-only users who will never ever hook anything else up to it, but for users who desire that option then it's definitely a big selling point. It definitely doesn't *detract* anything for someone who would never use it, either.
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I am going to point out that it does add flexibility and nothing I've said is contrary to that. Another reason I didn't particularly mention it is that it's a basic spec and easily found on product retailers advertisements.

I would point out though that the G-Sync board with the HDMI chip could be more expensive (probably not much) and increase the cost for the vast majority of buyers that would never use HDMI on the monitor. Just the other side of the coin. ;)
 
I got mine today from Amazon. It has a speck of dust between panel and backlight near the top right corner :(
 
vipz said:
I got mine today from Amazon. It has a speck of dust between panel and backlight near the top right corner :(
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I got mine with a piece of dirt on the screen that I couldn't remove. Had to return mine.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
Ugh, so many people say that: "Why use a high end monitor with features that a console can't even support?"

That's not the point of having an HDMI port AT ALL. The point of it is to give the monitor extra flexibility so that you CAN use a console on it, as opposed to not being able to use ANYTHING besides a PC on it.

If you have consoles and you game with them in your PC room then the option to hook up to your monitor is a huge plus. Again, it's the *option* that's useful, not that a Gsync 144hz 1440p display would be some kind of improvement over a standard monitor for consoles.

The HDMI port may add nothing for PC-only users who will never ever hook anything else up to it, but for users who desire that option then it's definitely a big selling point. It definitely doesn't *detract* anything for someone who would never use it, either.
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I do kind of miss being able to plug in my consoles into a monitor due to the superior input lag over a TV, but the lack of HDMI on a display like this isn't going to be on my checklist of required features for purchase while I also own a 40" television.
 
Armenius said:
I do kind of miss being able to plug in my consoles into a monitor due to the superior input lag over a TV, but the lack of HDMI on a display like this isn't going to be on my checklist of required features for purchase while I also own a 40" television.
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Right. I never said "every single user of this monitor needs the HDMI port." Obviously I understand many people couldn't care less what extra ports or functionality it has. But believe or not, there are people out there in varying situations that can find great use in that. In my case we don't have a TV that's good for gaming. It's hard to find (if not damn near impossible) a TV that has good input lag. Also some people live in households where other family members (kids, spouse, etc) might have the TV in use most of the time so you need a place to console game.

Whatever, I was never trying to argue that everyone needs it, just that in a good review, typically the reviewer tries to examine a product from all possible angles. Just like some people care if it has VESA mounting, even though 95% of people never use that feature - but some do, and that's why it gets a mention in most reviews.
 
Has anyone owning this monitor noticed and noise/buzzing from the display?

I read in a couple of reviews that the Dell uses a internal psu vs a separate brick in the power cable.

Can anyone confirm?
 
Angus66 said:
Has anyone owning this monitor noticed and noise/buzzing from the display?

I read in a couple of reviews that the Dell uses a internal psu vs a separate brick in the power cable.

Can anyone confirm?
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I have not noticed any buzzing sound. Yes it is internal.
 
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Aaaaannnd I go to order one via Amazon and get this on the product page:

Item Under Review

While this item is available from other marketplace sellers on this page, it is not currently offered by Amazon.com because customers have told us
there may be something wrong with our inventory of the item, the way we are shipping it, or the way it's described here. (Thanks for the tip!)

We're working to fix the problem as quickly as possible.
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Can ANY of these manufactures make a quality LCD monitor anymore???
 
I got my 2nd replacement from Amazon yesterday and still has 1 dead pixel. frown.gif

monitor1 = 1 bad pixel, good back light
monitor2= 1 bad pixel, some back light bleed at bottom
monitor3 = 1 bad pixel, some back light bleed at bottom

At this moment I have monitor1 on my desk and returned the other two. Should I accept the 1 dead pixel or demand more replacements until I get one without any dead pixels. At this price point I lean towards rejecting any dead pixels.

Thoughts?
 
Angus66 said:
Can ANY of these manufactures make a quality LCD monitor anymore???
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The problem is all of the panels are made by the same company, AU Optronics. They are single-handedly fucking up the entire industry. Until someone else who actually cares about quality starts manufacturing them it will just be more of the same.
 
Gussboy said:
I got my 2nd replacement from Amazon yesterday and still has 1 dead pixel. frown.gif

monitor1 = 1 bad pixel, good back light
monitor2= 1 bad pixel, some back light bleed at bottom
monitor3 = 1 bad pixel, some back light bleed at bottom

At this moment I have monitor1 on my desk and returned the other two. Should I accept the 1 dead pixel or demand more replacements until I get one without any dead pixels. At this price point I lean towards rejecting any dead pixels.

Thoughts?
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Keep trying. Maybe try an ASUS. Once you get a good one keep it.... Forever.
 
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