Dell Releases World’s First 30-Inch 4K 120Hz 0.1ms OLED Monitor

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  1. Shintai

    Shintai [H]ardness Supreme

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    If it just wasn't 5000$....

    Else I cant find much to complain about :)
     
  2. N4CR

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    Yup they only do 90Hz at 10bit because of the reason you stated. Same way HDMI2 can't 4k60 10bit and Dp can.

    I was hoping they were holding it back to upgrade this, but no, fuck you very much, that'll be next years' model, which will be a bit cheaper so gamers get a chubby over it. Get the rich fuckers and early adopters to beta test it.

    If they'd included it, I'd be keen as hell. Too bad.
     
  3. IdiotInCharge

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    Let's say it does 10-bit at 90Hz and 8-bit at 120Hz-

    Assuming you actually need 10-bit, is toggling between the two or just living with 90Hz that big of a loss, outside of being a pain in the ass?
     
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    ok guys, this monitor is still vaporware. I just chatted with DELL support and they said "this monitor is not for sale yet" "we have no internal information on when it will be released either"
     
  5. Skripka

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    Remember...retail is $5,000USD+shipping on this monitor from a major manufacturer.

    When spending that much scratch on a toy...most everyone would damn well want it to work 100% as advertised, without technicalities.
     
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    One thing to take into consideration too is that more expensive items get better treatment. You buy that cheap $500 monitor, and 9 dead pixels are acceptable. You buy that $5000 monitor and customer service will exchange it without question, even if their own policies say 1 dead pixel is acceptable. Plus, you get local customer support rather than unintelligible Indian customer support.
     
  7. Stereodude

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    Why does everyone assume this has a LG OLED panel in it?
     
  8. jbltecnicspro

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    In the year 2000, the Sony GDM-FW900 was the king of the hill. Creme de la creme. $2500 bought you a monitor that could reach up to 2304x1440 (80hz), had stupid high accuracy (my old FW-900 without any calibration profile could hit an average delta E of around 0.5 for the grayscale at 6500K), had fantastic contrast ratio (again, even my 13-year-old monitor could hit 10,000:1), had no motion blur, and had no input lag.

    It. Did. It. All. And it excelled at EVERYTHING it did.

    For $5000, I expect a monitor to do EVERYTHING well.
     
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  9. jbltecnicspro

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    I would imagine that calibrating the device to hit around 120 cd/m2 for the high-end should minimize burn-in and extend life expectancy.
     
  10. Daniel_Chang

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    Minimize? Sure. Completely prevent? Nope. And that's exactly what I said - "While there will be tricks and optimizations to mitigate it, the issue will never truly go away."
     
  11. jbltecnicspro

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    Relax bro. Not trying to steal your thunder. I was just citing a specific optimization / mitigation technique. We're all here to help each other out and discuss tech that we're passionate about, right?
     
  12. Daniel_Chang

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    You don't get voice inflection with typed text. I apologize if it came across that way, but trust me. Read my post in this guy's voice and you'll understand where I'm coming from :)

    [​IMG]

    (it's Ben Stein)
     
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  13. tybert7

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    This monitor is such a joke. Why even advertise it as 120Hz if nothing can connect to it and drive it at those rates?

    There is literally zero reason this thing should not have dp 1.3/1.4 baked into it. It's just like lg not putting a single dp connector on their 5000 dollar plus oled tvs. It's such a big $#% you to anyone who might ever want to connect this to a computer.


    anything with a 4k screen should have at least 3 connector types in ascending order of superiority.

    -ghetto level - hdmi 2.0
    -competent - dp 1.4
    -forward looking - supermhl
     
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    Let's face it. None of us in this thread is going to purchase it, whatever ports and connections it has. Even that Vega guy would have a hard time justifying this one.
     
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    Vega probably already has 3 of them debezeled in surround mode
     
  16. jbltecnicspro

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    Dry, itchy eyes? Fuck clear eyes - get this monitor. ;)
     
  17. Skripka

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    Honestly, were it not for small CRTs weighing 30KG or more and eating up tons of space/volume....LCDs wouldn't have taken off. The only things LCDs and LEDs now do better than CRTs are size/weight and power-consumption.
     
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  18. Tych-0

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    Good to see this sort of thing being announced, hopefully it's the first of many OLED 120Hz 4K. If this thing had good input lag numbers, dp1.4 and drops to about half this price it would be an instant purchase for me. As it stands I'll be waiting for more competition or a major sale.
     
  19. Daniel_Chang

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    I expect it to be 3-5 years before 4k, 100+ hz OLED with HDR and proper inputs hits the sub-$500 mainstream range. I just made a monitor purchase, so 3-5 years is fine by me.
     
  20. xorbe

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    Maybe at $1500 but not $5000 ... perhaps in a couple years ...
     
  21. Skripka

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    Doubtful.

    Even now, 4K panels of any quality only just get below $500USD. Factor in inflation and in 5 years they are not going to be less than $500USD. As for 60Hz+ OLED, no way. Only if/when 4K is superseded as a standard by 8K or what have you.
     
  22. Daniel_Chang

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    We'll see. That's the fun in speculating :)

    Even if I ended up being correct, it would have been from dumb luck and not expertise on the subject matter.
     
  23. nilepez

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    You may be right, but if you look at Dell's 5k Panel, it went from 2500 at launch and has dropped as low as 1350 (last month on Amazon) in 18 months. Either way, I wouldn't buy a new monitor on day 1 (not matter the tech). I'll let the reviewers and early adopters work out the kinks.