Dell Alienware AW3423DW 34″ QD-OLED 175Hz (3440 x 1440)

ziocomposite said:
Think you're right, it is the one with 2.0. Looks like the gysync module the AW got isn't the same one, shame.
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The Samsung variant won't use the gsync module but will still be limited to 175Hz as well. They have a chance to push their model ahead of Alienware if they would use DSC.
 
Odellus said:
Works fine. Any combination of refresh rate and resolution below native works on DP.
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Nice. That's good to hear. Looking at the manual I didn't see any resolution at less than native with 175Hz noted, so I was concerned that this was a limitation.
 
There's more to refresh rate limit than the transmission controller used. Looks like the back-plane connection on this panel is likely limited to 175Hz.
 
Vega said:
There's more to refresh rate limit than the transmission controller used. Looks like the back-plane connection on this panel is likely limited to 175Hz.
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That's unfortunate if that's the case. Not going with 240hz is wasted potential. That being said, I'll still be picking one of these up eventually to replace my 1440p 270hz display because the pros far outweigh the cons, IMO.
 
Odellus said:
Maybe a resident engineer can come up with a DIY 240+ Hz mod :)
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As long as it doesn't kill these panels prematurely. I had a Korean overclock monitor, I didn't win the lottery with the one that I got, got to like 85-90 or so, but didn't hit the magic 100+. That thing did not live past the 2nd year mark, maybe I got unlucky.

I wouldn't be surprised that they chose to use the older gsync module as a compromise in the design to go with the limitations of the panels, or to limit the panel so that they can maintain that beefy warranty.
 
Gatecrasher3000 said:
Does Samsung own the patent for QD-OLED or can LG just make their own version of it?
Hoping the C3 line might have some qd options.
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No, it's just Samsung's trade name

These QLED TVs are just Samsung's brand-name for nano-IPS (or Nano-VA if LG actually made those)


https://www.wepc.com/gaming-monitor/faq/what-is-nano-ips/

If these are actually successful, there would be nothing stopping LG from transitioning their G-series to all blue + Nano layer
 
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Odellus said:
Maybe a resident engineer can come up with a DIY 240+ Hz mod :)
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Now you got me curious to see what a QD OLED would look like at 240Hz+.
I looked at some of the blur busters images for my current monitor, the C1, and the Alienware.

My current monitor results according to this review.
Viewsonic-xg2703-gs
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/viewsonic-xg2703-gs/
LG C1
https://www.techspot.com/review/2292-lg-c1-oled-gaming/#37
BFI https://www.techspot.com/review/2292-lg-c1-oled-gaming/#38
Whole review. https://www.techspot.com/review/2292-lg-c1-oled-gaming/

Alienware 34 QD-OLED
https://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=79251

The xg2703-gs looks pretty good with ULMB at 120Hz, too bad you have to decide between tearing and quality. Looks like there have been some improvements over the years.
 
ellover009 said:
As long as it doesn't kill these panels prematurely. I had a Korean overclock monitor, I didn't win the lottery with the one that I got, got to like 85-90 or so, but didn't hit the magic 100+. That thing did not live past the 2nd year mark, maybe I got unlucky.

I wouldn't be surprised that they chose to use the older gsync module as a compromise in the design to go with the limitations of the panels, or to limit the panel so that they can maintain that beefy warranty.
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I had one, gave it to my brother who then gave it to my dad, it just died a couple months ago. Lasted a little over 8 years at 120 Hz.
 
Odellus said:
I had one, gave it to my brother who then gave it to my dad, it just died a couple months ago. Lasted a little over 8 years at 120 Hz.
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You got lucky. I liked the clarity of the monitor, but I hated the tearing. My display before that was a fw900, I never saw or noticed tearing until I moved to LCD.

I'm split between upgrading my screen, or keeping it until It doesn't do it's job anymore. I'm waiting to see what that 43' sony QD-OLED is gonna be like. I'm also curious about the C2, not in love that they removed 120Hz BFI compared to the C1, but maybe ppl are over-reacting. You want something when it's not longer there.
 
ellover009 said:
You got lucky. I liked the clarity of the monitor, but I hated the tearing. My display before that was a fw900, I never saw or noticed tearing until I moved to LCD.

I'm split between upgrading my screen, or keeping it until It doesn't do it's job anymore. I'm waiting to see what that 43' sony QD-OLED is gonna be like. I'm also curious about the C2, not in love that they removed 120Hz BFI compared to the C1, but maybe ppl are over-reacting. You want something when it's not longer there.
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Pretty sure there is no 43" QD-OLED. The only 3 panel sizes that exist for QD-OLED is 34, 55, and 65.
 
MistaSparkul said:
Pretty sure there is no 43" QD-OLED. The only 3 panel sizes that exist for QD-OLED is 34, 55, and 65.
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I messed that up, sorry about that. I confused the A90K (XR-42A90K) with the A95k. If that's the case hopefully Samsung wont mess up and offer an interesting alternative.
 
Contrast at 100 in HDR instead of default of 75 actually fixes most shadow detail/near black issues.

Love this monitor.
 
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I almost want to cancel my order. Not exactly interested in waiting until the middle of June to receive mine.
 
whateverer said:
No, it's just Samsung's trade name

These QLED TVs are just Samsung's brand-name for nano-IPS (or Nano-VA if LG actually made those)


https://www.wepc.com/gaming-monitor/faq/what-is-nano-ips/

If these are actually successful, there would be nothing stopping LG from transitioning their G-series to all blue + Nano layer
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This is so far off base I feel compelled to step in and correct you.
  1. QLED is Samsung's name for LCD with a quantum dot-enhanced LED backlight (which enhances color gamut). I believe these are all VA type LCD, not IPS.
  2. Nano IPS is LG's name for an IPS LCD using a narrow band absorbing dye in the backlight to enhance color gamut as an alternative to quantum dots.
  3. QD-OLED is Samsung's name for blue OLED with quantum dot color converters used to make red and green subpixels via downconversion (the blue passes through).
  4. LG owns the patent for WOLED (white OLED + color filters). Samsung developed QD-OLED (blue OLED + QD color conversion) as a competitor to WOLED.
  5. Samsung Display makes the panels, Samsung Electronics makes the TVs/monitors. While they're both subsidiaries of the Samsung parent group, in principle Samsung Display could sell the panels to other companies, including LG, to make displays with. Likewise, LG Electronics and LG Display are different subsidiaries, and I believe LG has made a deal to supply Samsung with WOLED panels to make TVs (positioned below QLED and QD-OLED in their lineup).
 
JTCPingas said:
I almost want to cancel my order. Not exactly interested in waiting until the middle of June to receive mine.
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Its worth the wait if you cannot find a hornswaggler who hoarded more than one!

There is literally nothing else comparable in the market or on the horizon anytime soon.
G8 is my next anticipated display, but have little faith after the cluster that was G9.
 
Ordered mine at 8am, £847 + a further £100 cashback if you buy with Amex (enable it in the app) and hopefully once it fully tracks, 5.2% further cashback as I clicked through via Quidco.

Delivery is Thursday.

Monumental price considering in 2014 I bought the first proper 34" IPS 21:9, LG's 34UM95-P.for a little over £800.
 
Odellus said:
I had one, gave it to my brother who then gave it to my dad, it just died a couple months ago. Lasted a little over 8 years at 120 Hz.
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It was probably just the power brick! I still have my Qnix, but I had to replace the power brick on it last year, and one of my friends who ordered his around the same time had the exact same issue a month after me.

Anyone who has the AW monitor, how's the ABL? Is it significantly less aggressive than the one on the LG OLED TVs?
 
Capt_Happy said:
It was probably just the power brick! I still have my Qnix, but I had to replace the power brick on it last year, and one of my friends who ordered his around the same time had the exact same issue a month after me.

Anyone who has the AW monitor, how's the ABL? Is it significantly less aggressive than the one on the LG OLED TVs?
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Maxing out brightness in SDR had no issue at all.

Personally have been running 1000 vs 400 and haven’t had a gaming scenario that it was perceptible. You can see it if you use hdr mode in desktop usage if you have a mix of bright webpage etc
 
ziocomposite said:
Maxing out brightness in SDR had no issue at all.

Personally have been running 1000 vs 400 and haven’t had a gaming scenario that it was perceptible. You can see it if you use hdr mode in desktop usage if you have a mix of bright webpage etc
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Same for me but in Doom: Eternal with HDR 1000 mode I notice a lot a ABL. So much so I prefer 400 mode in that game. Haven't tried 1000 mode with any other HDR game.
 
Necere said:
This is so far off base I feel compelled to step in and correct you.
  1. QLED is Samsung's name for LCD with a quantum dot-enhanced LED backlight (which enhances color gamut). I believe these are all VA type LCD, not IPS.
  2. Nano IPS is LG's name for an IPS LCD using a narrow band absorbing dye in the backlight to enhance color gamut as an alternative to quantum dots.
  3. QD-OLED is Samsung's name for blue OLED with quantum dot color converters used to make red and green subpixels via downconversion (the blue passes through).
  4. LG owns the patent for WOLED (white OLED + color filters). Samsung developed QD-OLED (blue OLED + QD color conversion) as a competitor to WOLED.
  5. Samsung Display makes the panels, Samsung Electronics makes the TVs/monitors. While they're both subsidiaries of the Samsung parent group, in principle Samsung Display could sell the panels to other companies, including LG, to make displays with. Likewise, LG Electronics and LG Display are different subsidiaries, and I believe LG has made a deal to supply Samsung with WOLED panels to make TVs (positioned below QLED and QD-OLED in their lineup).
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I'm just saying that developing this is no more complicated than layering the same quantum material on-top of an IPS display (you know, just like the traditional color filterers LG already uses on WOLED!)
 
Necere said:
This is so far off base I feel compelled to step in and correct you.

QD-OLED is Samsung's name for blue OLED with quantum dot color converters used to make red and green subpixels via downconversion (the blue passes through).
LG owns the patent for WOLED (white OLED + color filters). Samsung developed QD-OLED (blue OLED + QD color conversion) as a competitor to WOLED.
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I know there is no information on LG developing a screen with blue OLED and quantum dot converters, but I'm just hoping that legally they can.
That LG sees the benefit to the consumer over WOLED, and pivots in the next few years to manufacturing QD-OLED, or whatever their version of it is.

Seems like QD-OLED was the next technical step in OLED, so fingers crossed that more manufacturers create their own iterations of it.
 
Gatecrasher3000 said:
I know there is no information on LG developing a screen with blue OLED and quantum dot converters, but I'm just hoping that legally they can.
That LG sees the benefit to the consumer over WOLED, and pivots in the next few years to manufacturing QD-OLED, or whatever their version of it is.

Seems like QD-OLED was the next technical step in OLED, so fingers crossed that more manufacturers create their own iterations of it.
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Maybe LG can call it NanOLED? NOLED? nanoWOLED?
 
robbiekhan said:
Ordered mine at 8am, £847 + a further £100 cashback if you buy with Amex (enable it in the app) and hopefully once it fully tracks, 5.2% further cashback as I clicked through via Quidco.

Delivery is Thursday.

Monumental price considering in 2014 I bought the first proper 34" IPS 21:9, LG's 34UM95-P.for a little over £800.
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I had that LG as well, bought it when it went on sale for $750. I really wanted the Dell U3415W Curved one but that was still around $1000 or so.
I did eventually get the Dell through a local trade, traded my two GTX 980's for it in late 2017/early 2018 after I got my 1080Ti.
 
whateverer said:
I'm just saying that developing this is no more complicated than layering the same quantum material on-top of an IPS display (you know, just like the traditional color filterers LG already uses on WOLED!)
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Pretty sure it's a bit more complicated than that. Otherwise, they would have had it to market a long time ago.
 
whateverer said:
I'm just saying that developing this is no more complicated than layering the same quantum material on-top of an IPS display (you know, just like the traditional color filterers LG already uses on WOLED!)
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LCD with QDCC has been talked about for years as a logical next step in LCD development after QDEF (QD enhancement film on the backlight), and Samsung even had plans to launch QDCC LCD TVs in 2017 (QDCF = quantum dot color filter, same thing as QDCC). It could still happen, but at this point it may have been rendered redundant with the introduction and relative cost competitiveness of QD-OLED. It adds some cost to LCD, but with relatively minor image quality improvements. By itself it does nothing to improve contrast and black levels to better compete with OLED displays.
 
jbltecnicspro said:
Yes. Correct. It’s just - can they? Or is it patented?
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It does appear blue OLED + QDCC is patented by Samsung, so LG couldn't just straight up copy it. Could they do WOLED with QDCCs? Maybe, but it may not work as well for technical reasons. Ideally you use blue to downconvert to red and green. With white you might get unwanted wavelengths that you'd have to filter out anyway.
 
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