Dell Alienware AW3423DW 34″ QD-OLED 175Hz (3440 x 1440)

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Biggest advantage is you only need an HDMI 2.0 compatible GPU for the Alienware. To get more than 60Hz on the LG you need a 3000 series card.
You can use DP 1.4+DSC -> HDMI 2.1 adapters. 4K, 120 Hz, 10-bit, 4:4:4 with HDR is possible with these. The only feature that does not work is VRR which is unfortunate but not a dealbreaker for me. I'd rather wait for GPU prices to go to sensible levels than buy a slightly faster GPU than my 2080 Ti at nearly double the price.

Via HDMI 2.0, the LG OLEDs can do 4K 120 Hz 8-bit 4:2:0 without HDR. Which is perfectly fine for SDR gaming.

But yes, the Dell does make connectivity more straightforward.
 

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I honestly can't even tell the difference from 1440 and 4k. So I take refresh rate over resolution.
I think there is a noticeable difference in games with a huge ton of small detail. Red Dead Redemption 2 would be a good example. You can see those differences in all the small details of any scenes, distant trees and so on. But when actually playing you quickly get used to what you have and focus on the gameplay more than tiny visual details so 1440p is totally fine and already a huge step up from 1080p.

I do vastly prefer higher res for desktop use tho.
 

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Or if you lower a few invisible in motion settings that cause a huge perf hit on max in most games... 4k is too good to give up for resolution I had in 2008. I've been on 4k since 2014.

In my experience the settings that impact performance the most are things like LOD distance and shadow detail/distance, the very types of settings where downgrades are most obvious on 4k. If I'm going to drop settings I may as well be playing on 1440p with even higher FPS. >120hz is too good to give up for refresh rates I had in the early 90s.

Welcome to the shitshow that is MacOS external display handling. I swear they don't test it with anything except their own displays.

It was at least easier than getting my mouse to feel normal. Three separate 3rd party apps (pointer acceleration, scroll wheel behavior, and one other thing I forget) to make my mouse feel mostly normal, and one of them costs money
 
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I can't say how frustrating it is that all these half-assed reviews keep coming out and yet Tftcentral, Rtings, Prad, or another credible source still don't have theirs up.

The tech testers review is the first half decent review but I don't trust their input lag measurements.

Examples:

Eve Spectrum 4k:

TFT central - 2.35ms Techtesters - 3.7ms

ASus ROG Swift PG32UQ

TFT central - 2.67ms Techtesters - 4.0ms

ASus ROG Swift PG32UQX (this is a very odd result for techtesters)

TFT central - 2.50ms Techtesters - 7.5ms

Odyssey Neo G9 (this is a very odd result for techtesters)

Rtings - 2.9ms Techtesters 8.7ms
 

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Aside from Rtings have any of the others noted they are trying to get the panel? Might be a while since only Asia/North America have it at the moment.

Watching that video they did say it's their first so their data can only compared to monitors they've tested. But yes, waiting on the others as well.
 

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Im thinking of replacing my LG 38gl950g. Any reason why i shouldn't?
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Im thinking of replacing my LG 38gl950g. Any reason why i shouldn't?
There are a few:

1) The biggest would be cost, it is $1300 that you don't have to spend if you are happy with your display.

2) Smaller workspace, the 38" screens have more real estate, particularly vertical realestate.

3) Text is going to be slightly clearer on the LG since it has a standard RGB horizontal subpixel structure that Windows expects.

4) For desktop work, there's no worry about burn in.


Now none of this is trying to talk you out of getting one. I wish to get one and I have the Alienware version of the 38" monitor. However since you wanted to know what reasons there would be not to get one, well here's the ones I can think of.
 

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Aside from Rtings have any of the others noted they are trying to get the panel? Might be a while since only Asia/North America have it at the moment.

Watching that video they did say it's their first so their data can only compared to monitors they've tested. But yes, waiting on the others as well.
Australia got theirs too.
 

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I can't say how frustrating it is that all these half-assed reviews keep coming out and yet Tftcentral, Rtings, Prad, or another credible source still don't have theirs up.

The tech testers review is the first half decent review but I don't trust their input lag measurements.

Examples:

Eve Spectrum 4k:

TFT central - 2.35ms Techtesters - 3.7ms

ASus ROG Swift PG32UQ

TFT central - 2.67ms Techtesters - 4.0ms

ASus ROG Swift PG32UQX (this is a very odd result for techtesters)

TFT central - 2.50ms Techtesters - 7.5ms

Odyssey Neo G9 (this is a very odd result for techtesters)

Rtings - 2.9ms Techtesters 8.7ms

I have already given my extremely high quality / credible review!
 

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Does Samsung own the patent for QD-OLED or can LG just make their own version of it?
Hoping the C3 line might have some qd options.
 

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Does Samsung own the patent for QD-OLED or can LG just make their own version of it?
Hoping the C3 line might have some qd options.
Yes to the first part of the question.

And they're definitely not going to sell their brand new tech to their biggest competitor on the market: LG.

What a thought...wtf?
 

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Yes to the first part of the question.

And they're definitely not going to sell their brand new tech to their biggest competitor on the market: LG.

What a thought...wtf?

What I mean is, can LG make it's own variation of QD-OLED, or does Samsung have a complete monopoly on the technology? For example, every panel manufacturer has made LCD panels at one point, no one manufacturer seemed to own the rights to the technology. So my question is can LG make it's own iteration of QD-OLED, or does Samsung fully own the technology? What changes would LG need to make to QD-OLED in order to legally sell their own iteration of it?

I guess these are questions for a patent lawyer.
 

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What I mean is, can LG make it's own variation of QD-OLED, or does Samsung have a complete monopoly on the technology? For example, every panel manufacturer has made LCD panels at one point, no one manufacturer seemed to own the rights to the technology. So my question is can LG make it's own iteration of QD-OLED, or does Samsung fully own the technology? What changes would LG need to make to QD-OLED in order to legally sell their own iteration of it?

I guess these are questions for a patent lawyer.
Who knows if they need Samsung's tech. LG might have something themselves coming down the pipeline.
 

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What I mean is, can LG make it's own variation of QD-OLED, or does Samsung have a complete monopoly on the technology? For example, every panel manufacturer has made LCD panels at one point, no one manufacturer seemed to own the rights to the technology. So my question is can LG make it's own iteration of QD-OLED, or does Samsung fully own the technology? What changes would LG need to make to QD-OLED in order to legally sell their own iteration of it?

I guess these are questions for a patent lawyer.

Actually Samsung doesn't make the panels, Samsung Display does. They're separate companies and Samsung Display sells panels to Sony and other companies, not just Samsung. Same thing for LG and LG Display, separate companies.

So it would be possible to see an LG tv with a QD-OLED panel from Samsung Display and the opposite as well. Probably unlikely though.
I haven't heard about LG Display working on QD anything.
 

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oh, the QD-OLED TV's are now available for pre-order so you can pair your Alienware monitor with a Samung 55 or 65" QD-OLED.
$2200 and $3000.
I am considering getting the 55" to replace my 50" Plasma in my mancave/garage.
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Actually Samsung doesn't make the panels, Samsung Display does. They're separate companies and Samsung Display sells panels to Sony and other companies, not just Samsung. Same thing for LG and LG Display, separate companies.

So it would be possible to see an LG tv with a QD-OLED panel from Samsung Display and the opposite as well. Probably unlikely though.
I haven't heard about LG Display working on QD anything.
Samsung Display made displays for iPhones I believe, so yes this would not be unprecedented.
 

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What I mean is, can LG make it's own variation of QD-OLED, or does Samsung have a complete monopoly on the technology? For example, every panel manufacturer has made LCD panels at one point, no one manufacturer seemed to own the rights to the technology. So my question is can LG make it's own iteration of QD-OLED, or does Samsung fully own the technology? What changes would LG need to make to QD-OLED in order to legally sell their own iteration of it?

I guess these are questions for a patent lawyer.
But they do, it's just lesser known. For example Samsung has exclusivity over PVA LCD panel tech.

TFTCentral has a great page about all the various LCD panel types we never think about and who makes them :D
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/panel_technologies
 

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oh, the QD-OLED TV's are now available for pre-order so you can pair your Alienware monitor with a Samung 55 or 65" QD-OLED.
$2200 and $3000.
I am considering getting the 55" to replace my 50" Plasma in my mancave/garage.

3000$ USD for the 65 inch is a legit value. In a year I may just replace my 55 inch C7 OLED with a 65" QD-OLED. I'd rather buy from anyone other than Samsung.
 

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3000$ USD for the 65 inch is a legit value. In a year I may just replace my 55 inch C7 OLED with a 65" QD-OLED. I'd rather buy from anyone other than Samsung.
Well, if you don't like Samsung (I'm with you there), then that $3000 should buy you a 55 inch Sony QD OLED.

I may upgrade my LG E8 to one tbh. QD OLED has impressed me quite a bit on this AW34, and 1500 nits with it's color and viewing angle performance should be a sight to behold.
 

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I'm really tempted to get one of these, but I also want to see what the Samsung G8QNB brings to the table before taking the leap. Information seem somewhat sparse on the G8QNB unless I'm missing something.
 

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Yes but no lol, Display settings in windows shows "Desktop resolution 1920x1080" with "Active signal resolution 3440x1440"
Hmm, I was thinking perhaps signal was being scaled to fullscreen, that's why it was indicating that? Logically, it should be able to do 1920x1080 at 175 Hz unscaled...

Also, if anyone has run it at 2560x1440 @ 175 Hz, please confirm.
 

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Hmm, I was thinking perhaps signal was being scaled to fullscreen, that's why it was indicating that? Logically, it should be able to do 1920x1080 at 175 Hz unscaled...

Also, if anyone has run it at 2560x1440 @ 175 Hz, please confirm.
Works fine. Any combination of refresh rate and resolution below native works on DP.
I'm really tempted to get one of these, but I also want to see what the Samsung G8QNB brings to the table before taking the leap. Information seem somewhat sparse on the G8QNB unless I'm missing something.
It's going to be the same thing with FreeSync and possibly a couple bucks knocked off the price. You don't really have any choice but to wait now anyway lol.
 

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3000$ USD for the 65 inch is a legit value. In a year I may just replace my 55 inch C7 OLED with a 65" QD-OLED. I'd rather buy from anyone other than Samsung.
It sure as hell not for the average consumer. People at work were dumb founded that I paid $1800 for my 65 c9 a few years ago. They could understand why I paid that when they got some garbage Westinghouse 65" for $400.
 

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I have to say my biggest criticism with this display is the lack of DSC.

175hz is great. Its nice an smooth, but when technology exists in other products that would let you have 240hz or more, then its a missed opportunity IMHO to have the best of the best.

Maybe they did it so they can double dip our asses on version 2.0..I dunno...but 240hz or more of OLED would have been epic.
 

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I'm really tempted to get one of these, but I also want to see what the Samsung G8QNB brings to the table before taking the leap. Information seem somewhat sparse on the G8QNB unless I'm missing something.
Wouldn't surprise me if it just appears randomly on Amazon at any moment the way their QD-OLED TVs did. Samsung Electronics (not the Display panel division) just doesn't appear interested in generating much pre-launch media buzz for these products.
 

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Hmm, I was thinking perhaps signal was being scaled to fullscreen, that's why it was indicating that? Logically, it should be able to do 1920x1080 at 175 Hz unscaled...

Also, if anyone has run it at 2560x1440 @ 175 Hz, please confirm.
Same thing. Seems like it might be related to having a gsync module.
Except that G-Sync supports Displayport 1.4 and DSC since last year. Find another excuse, heh.
Word on the street is an older module was used instead of the newest ones seen with hdmi 2.1.
 

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Word on the street is an older module was used instead of the newest ones seen with hdmi 2.1.
I was unaware of an HDMI 2.1 version. The PG32UQX supports DSC, but not HDMI 2.1, so clearly there's a way for G-Sync to support DSC without this latest version you speak of.
 

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I was unaware of an HDMI 2.1 version. The PG32UQX supports DSC, but not HDMI 2.1, so clearly there's a way for G-Sync to support DSC without this latest version you speak of.
Think you're right, it is the one with 2.0. Looks like the gysync module the AW got isn't the same one, shame.
 
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