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Typhon said:I think ur just a noob, cause seriously dont be niaeve.
Its like having disease and just ignoring it, saying that i dont believe i have a disease, so i dont have it.
ozziegn said:lol - a 25 foot VGA cable? good God man... VGA in standard length cable stinks bigtime compared to a DVI connection much less spanning a VGA connection 25 feet.
fallguy said:Its a good thing I dont give a flying flip what you think about me.
Fact, I dont notice any motion blur. Did I say my monitor didnt do it, or wouldnt under a certain circumstance? No, I said I have never noticed it, which I havent. I dont go looking for it, why would I? Another fact, I dont care if you believe me or not. Your analogy is both wrong, and offensive.
I noticed it during the course of playing a game. It took a while but I eventually ended up in a situation where it kinda jumped out at me. Probably when I was in close combat with someone else who was up against a wall and moving from side to side rapidly dodging. That blur is there, even with the 2405FPW. After I noticed it I did some more tests to confirm it.truffle00 said:In the end, you can either deal with the blur or go back to CRT. Honestly though, just saying that you don't see it does not mean it is not there, and in a thread about motion blur on any monitor, I'd rather hear from people who have looked for it (regardless of whether they then noticed it or not) than people who ignore it.
dano1122 said:to those people saying LCD are better for gaming, you are decieving yourselves.
Arkanian said:I hope people are using a DVI cable, reducing the freq of the DVI, and V-SYNC.
Can you rephase your question?pistola said:And v-sync what?
In the ATI Advanced properties under options, click on Reduce DVI freq on high-res displays. If you don't have this check, CHECK it ASAP.Riptide_NVN said:What do you mean reducing the frequency of the DVI - and why would that be a good thing?
Riptide_NVN said:There is more than one type of ghosting so to speak. The image you describe could be termed that way but it's not the same thing most people are refering to. The sort of ghosting (in this case aka "image blur") commonly complained about w/LCD displays only happens with a moving image. The sort of ghosting you're talking about, on the 2D desktop, is probably due to a bad display or a bad cable. CRT displays at high resolutions can also sometimes produce the same problem and it can be fixed by using a BNC connector.
In order to see ghosting on an LCD display you can grab a window on the 2D desktop and move it around. At just the right speed you'll see the image sort of blur and go out of focus. Another way to do it would be to start up a FPS like UT2004 or CS:S and face a wall then strafe from side to side. The wall will go out of focus.
And yes I think you will notice ghosting with the 2405FPW - but only if you go looking for it. That's been my experience anyway.
Arkanian said:In the ATI Advanced properties under options, click on Reduce DVI freq on high-res displays. If you don't have this check, CHECK it ASAP.
As written by ATI's tech support
Reduce DVI frequency on high-resolution
Resolves display corruption or no image at high
resolutions (for example 1280x1024 @75Hz) using a
digital DVI display. This setting has no effect when using a
DVI-I-to-VGA adapter.
You will probably not see any of it outside of fast paced FPS type games. It's really hard to say for sure because there is a wide variance in how easily people see ghosting on most modern LCDs. I don't find it bothersome but others say even the fastest LCDs out at the moment aren't good enough for them.BONDS said:i will notice it on 2405 even when i dont play any video games except xbox???
just want to make sure of it
Riptide_NVN said:Good question Jon because I think it's on by default. Next time I upgrade Catalyst I'll double check that.
Arkanian said:Can you rephase your question?
Short for Vertical Synchronization, VSYNC is a signal used to describe the process or set a value telling the monitor when to draw the next vertical line. The time it takes for this to occur is measured in Hertz (Hz).
Basically your frames per second equal that to your refresh rate.
For example: if your refresh rate is 60 Hertz, your frames in games will be 60 FPS constant. this eliminates motion blur and sometimes ghosting because your monitor can display the changes per pixel very well at 60 FPS. So if you are running at 115 FPS, your monitor has to change each pixel that much faster and sometimes it can not keep up.
Yes sorry if I was confusing. You want to turn V-sync on if you are using an LCD to avoid tearing and motion blur.JonDo[H] said:I think he's just suggesting that you should turn it out to avoid any graphical "tearing".
Arkanian said:Yes sorry if I was confusing. You want to turn V-sync on if you are using an LCD to avoid tearing and motion blur.
Like I said sorry if I was confusing. I meant for DVI freq and V-Sync to be different. The only reason I said V-Sync would help in motion blur is because it limits your Frames per second. The LCD panel can keep up with 60 FPS better than 150 FPS.Spare-Flair said:Motion blur has nothing to do with V-sync. It's an inherent property of the latency of the panel. Sometimes, CRTs can even have motion blur if they have high phosphor latency as really, in a CRT, it's just a cathode ray firing from the gun into phosphor that changes the color of pixels.
In an LCD, electrical charges change the color of chemicals in the liquid crystal panel and ghosting or motion blur is caused by the pixels not being able to change color fast enough so everything is slowed down and blurred. Your brain and eyes get confused thinking you're out of focus, and then you get dizzy, nauseous, or eye-strain from trying to focus when it's impossible.
V-sync syncronizes the refresh rate of the screen with the framerate on the screen and this avoids visual tearing, especially in some FPS's but generally is not a big problem with LCD displays.
Reducing the DVI frequency has nothing to do with vsync, it's simply something you can try if you experience some corruption or graphical problems on your display when running high resolutions above 1280x1024. I've never had any problems on 17" and 19" monitors running 1280x1024 but if you have a larger panel, that might be an issue.
EricDawg said:I was VERY disappointed in my 2001FP I just got for BF1942. Kill ratio went way down. Just can't focus on fast close combat.
But I had 21 days to return it. I ordered a 22" CRT and will keep the LCD for programming work. Portrait mode is amazing.
The blur is out there!