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What's fucked up is that Guerrilla Games said they already have an internal version of the Decima Engine that works perfectly fine on PC (and they use it for testing, debug, etc), and they'd like to bring games like HZD to PC, but Sony says hells naw, so that's how it goes (or at least I seem to recall Guerrilla saying their engine was fully-working on PC). Personally I find it sad when the consoles are x86-64/AMD64 but ports to PC aren't automatically a no-brainer.
You entitled to you opinion but you are still wrong. The MGS games and stuff like Snatcher were great games. I do kinda agree Death Stranding looks kind of boring but who know what it will be til it comes out.
I'm probably about to piss a lot of people off.
Japanese Games are not good. Change my mind.
I agree with you, except for one thing: I have doubts about it being a story telling masterpiece. Most of the Japanese stories I've ever seen in animation, live action film or in games has been overly convoluted, nihilistic and just plain depressing. The tropes that plague these things are so rampant, its mind boggling. People who like that sort of thing tend to remind me of craft beer snobs. They might like some beer that tastes like motor oil and stinks like carpet from an old crime scene and if you don't like it, your automatically classified as unsophisticated simpleton.
Nier Automata seems to virtually exemplify the Japanese gaming genre for me. Everything that's wrong with it extends to most Japanese games I've played. You have simplistic story telling methods for overly complex plots which boil down to being one of two things. Man vs. Machine which is usually done on a sliding scale between Ghost in the Shell and Megaman. Or, you have some bizarre fantasy stuff which is oddly mixed between contemporary and traditional fantasy settings. All their male hero's tend to be shirtless emo dudes (Dante from Devil May Cry) or Ryu from Street Fighter. The females are typical anime tropes. Over powered, heavily sexualized and generally so annoying you can't appreciate them being overly sexualized.
Masterpiece of story telling? Not if we get Nintendo era story telling like this:
View attachment 186722
This is actually a cut scene from Neir Automata. I thought I had traveled back in time when I saw this.
Or, you get what looks like an updated side scroller with abysmally slow text crawls that harkon back to the days of parachute pants. Note the shirtless emo dude.
View attachment 186723
In game conversations are handled like this:
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They'll often have other cut scenes which are nothing more than ridiculous action sequences that would come across like a Bollywood rip off of a AAA movie, except they are polished enough to avoid that association. This seems to extend to virtually any Japanese game made in the last 30 years that I've seen with few exceptions. Even the immensely popular Street Fighter games have endings and stories that are told badly, with convoluted plots that make no sense, I like those games, but its in spite of how bad the story telling is. The game play is mechanically better than any western fighting game.
Basically, you end up with disjointed styles, odd visuals and convoluted plots. Using my favorite example: Nier Automata basically checks every box for me on what not to do in a video game. It shouldn't have been that hard to execute. After all it's basically just a female version of Megaman wearing a thong and the science fiction version of a French Maid's outfit. I'd usually be all in for that, but even staring at 2B's finely crafted digital ass wasn't enough to make me like that boring ass game. Granted, they may not all be like this, but this is essentially every Japanese game I've ever played or looked into. Japanese games tend to have better polish than American games on a technical level, but they seem behind western games in a number of areas. I'm not a big fan of the Witcher series, but their story telling is vastly superior as is anything from BioWare. At least, Pre-EA BioWare.
Worse yet, is they all seem to have ultra-repetitive gameplay. They'll also switch styles on you. You have an overhead shooter at the start of Nier Automata which reminds me of the many arcade games which were dressed up versions of Galaga, and then it transitions into something else. Boss fights have oddly locked camera angles and weird ultra-repetative mechanics. I've played a handful of Japanese games over the last few decades and I never make it very far into any of them. They never grab me with their stories, style or gameplay. Every time a new one gets hyped up, I watch videos and its more of the same. Each time I've been interested enough to buy one I've been hugely disappointed.
I'm probably about to piss a lot of people off.
Japanese Games are not good. Change my mind.
I agree with you, except for one thing: I have doubts about it being a story telling masterpiece. Most of the Japanese stories I've ever seen in animation, live action film or in games has been overly convoluted, nihilistic and just plain depressing. The tropes that plague these things are so rampant, its mind boggling. People who like that sort of thing tend to remind me of craft beer snobs. They might like some beer that tastes like motor oil and stinks like carpet from an old crime scene and if you don't like it, your automatically classified as unsophisticated simpleton.
Nier Automata seems to virtually exemplify the Japanese gaming genre for me. Everything that's wrong with it extends to most Japanese games I've played. You have simplistic story telling methods for overly complex plots which boil down to being one of two things. Man vs. Machine which is usually done on a sliding scale between Ghost in the Shell and Megaman. Or, you have some bizarre fantasy stuff which is oddly mixed between contemporary and traditional fantasy settings. All their male hero's tend to be shirtless emo dudes (Dante from Devil May Cry) or Ryu from Street Fighter. The females are typical anime tropes. Over powered, heavily sexualized and generally so annoying you can't appreciate them being overly sexualized.
Masterpiece of story telling? Not if we get Nintendo era story telling like this:
View attachment 186722
This is actually a cut scene from Neir Automata. I thought I had traveled back in time when I saw this.
Or, you get what looks like an updated side scroller with abysmally slow text crawls that harkon back to the days of parachute pants. Note the shirtless emo dude.
View attachment 186723
In game conversations are handled like this:
View attachment 186725
They'll often have other cut scenes which are nothing more than ridiculous action sequences that would come across like a Bollywood rip off of a AAA movie, except they are polished enough to avoid that association. This seems to extend to virtually any Japanese game made in the last 30 years that I've seen with few exceptions. Even the immensely popular Street Fighter games have endings and stories that are told badly, with convoluted plots that make no sense, I like those games, but its in spite of how bad the story telling is. The game play is mechanically better than any western fighting game.
Basically, you end up with disjointed styles, odd visuals and convoluted plots. Using my favorite example: Nier Automata basically checks every box for me on what not to do in a video game. It shouldn't have been that hard to execute. After all it's basically just a female version of Megaman wearing a thong and the science fiction version of a French Maid's outfit. I'd usually be all in for that, but even staring at 2B's finely crafted digital ass wasn't enough to make me like that boring ass game. Granted, they may not all be like this, but this is essentially every Japanese game I've ever played or looked into. Japanese games tend to have better polish than American games on a technical level, but they seem behind western games in a number of areas. I'm not a big fan of the Witcher series, but their story telling is vastly superior as is anything from BioWare. At least, Pre-EA BioWare.
Worse yet, is they all seem to have ultra-repetitive gameplay. They'll also switch styles on you. You have an overhead shooter at the start of Nier Automata which reminds me of the many arcade games which were dressed up versions of Galaga, and then it transitions into something else. Boss fights have oddly locked camera angles and weird ultra-repetative mechanics. I've played a handful of Japanese games over the last few decades and I never make it very far into any of them. They never grab me with their stories, style or gameplay. Every time a new one gets hyped up, I watch videos and its more of the same. Each time I've been interested enough to buy one I've been hugely disappointed.
I'm probably about to piss a lot of people off.
Japanese Games are not good. Change my mind.
I'm probably about to piss a lot of people off.
Japanese Games are not good. Change my mind.
Maybe not. I figured I'd share my opinion and rile some people up.
No idea what Vanquish is.
Maybe not. I figured I'd share my opinion and rile some people up.
No idea what Vanquish is.
Honestly since the PS3 the quality of Jap games have drastically nose dived. Sure there are some good games but generally they are just some weird niche games. It is just a bunch of weebos that like to jerk of the Japs.
I'm probably about to piss a lot of people off.
Japanese Games are not good. Change my mind.
I agree with you, except for one thing: I have doubts about it being a story telling masterpiece. Most of the Japanese stories I've ever seen in animation, live action film or in games has been overly convoluted, nihilistic and just plain depressing. The tropes that plague these things are so rampant, its mind boggling. People who like that sort of thing tend to remind me of craft beer snobs. They might like some beer that tastes like motor oil and stinks like carpet from an old crime scene and if you don't like it, your automatically classified as unsophisticated simpleton.
Nier Automata seems to virtually exemplify the Japanese gaming genre for me. Everything that's wrong with it extends to most Japanese games I've played. You have simplistic story telling methods for overly complex plots which boil down to being one of two things. Man vs. Machine which is usually done on a sliding scale between Ghost in the Shell and Megaman. Or, you have some bizarre fantasy stuff which is oddly mixed between contemporary and traditional fantasy settings. All their male hero's tend to be shirtless emo dudes (Dante from Devil May Cry) or Ryu from Street Fighter. The females are typical anime tropes. Over powered, heavily sexualized and generally so annoying you can't appreciate them being overly sexualized.
Masterpiece of story telling? Not if we get Nintendo era story telling like this:
View attachment 186722
This is actually a cut scene from Neir Automata. I thought I had traveled back in time when I saw this.
Or, you get what looks like an updated side scroller with abysmally slow text crawls that harkon back to the days of parachute pants. Note the shirtless emo dude.
View attachment 186723
In game conversations are handled like this:
View attachment 186725
They'll often have other cut scenes which are nothing more than ridiculous action sequences that would come across like a Bollywood rip off of a AAA movie, except they are polished enough to avoid that association. This seems to extend to virtually any Japanese game made in the last 30 years that I've seen with few exceptions. Even the immensely popular Street Fighter games have endings and stories that are told badly, with convoluted plots that make no sense, I like those games, but its in spite of how bad the story telling is. The game play is mechanically better than any western fighting game.
Basically, you end up with disjointed styles, odd visuals and convoluted plots. Using my favorite example: Nier Automata basically checks every box for me on what not to do in a video game. It shouldn't have been that hard to execute. After all it's basically just a female version of Megaman wearing a thong and the science fiction version of a French Maid's outfit. I'd usually be all in for that, but even staring at 2B's finely crafted digital ass wasn't enough to make me like that boring ass game. Granted, they may not all be like this, but this is essentially every Japanese game I've ever played or looked into. Japanese games tend to have better polish than American games on a technical level, but they seem behind western games in a number of areas. I'm not a big fan of the Witcher series, but their story telling is vastly superior as is anything from BioWare. At least, Pre-EA BioWare.
Worse yet, is they all seem to have ultra-repetitive gameplay. They'll also switch styles on you. You have an overhead shooter at the start of Nier Automata which reminds me of the many arcade games which were dressed up versions of Galaga, and then it transitions into something else. Boss fights have oddly locked camera angles and weird ultra-repetative mechanics. I've played a handful of Japanese games over the last few decades and I never make it very far into any of them. They never grab me with their stories, style or gameplay. Every time a new one gets hyped up, I watch videos and its more of the same. Each time I've been interested enough to buy one I've been hugely disappointed.
No, it really wasn't. The only issue it had was the locked 1280x720 internal resolution that got upscaled at higher resolutions, which was addressed by the community within days of release.
I'm probably about to piss a lot of people off.
Japanese Games are not good. Change my mind.
I agree with you, except for one thing: I have doubts about it being a story telling masterpiece. Most of the Japanese stories I've ever seen in animation, live action film or in games has been overly convoluted, nihilistic and just plain depressing. The tropes that plague these things are so rampant, its mind boggling. People who like that sort of thing tend to remind me of craft beer snobs. They might like some beer that tastes like motor oil and stinks like carpet from an old crime scene and if you don't like it, your automatically classified as unsophisticated simpleton.
Nier Automata seems to virtually exemplify the Japanese gaming genre for me. Everything that's wrong with it extends to most Japanese games I've played. You have simplistic story telling methods for overly complex plots which boil down to being one of two things. Man vs. Machine which is usually done on a sliding scale between Ghost in the Shell and Megaman. Or, you have some bizarre fantasy stuff which is oddly mixed between contemporary and traditional fantasy settings. All their male hero's tend to be shirtless emo dudes (Dante from Devil May Cry) or Ryu from Street Fighter. The females are typical anime tropes. Over powered, heavily sexualized and generally so annoying you can't appreciate them being overly sexualized.
Masterpiece of story telling? Not if we get Nintendo era story telling like this:
View attachment 186722
This is actually a cut scene from Neir Automata. I thought I had traveled back in time when I saw this.
Or, you get what looks like an updated side scroller with abysmally slow text crawls that harkon back to the days of parachute pants. Note the shirtless emo dude.
View attachment 186723
In game conversations are handled like this:
View attachment 186725
They'll often have other cut scenes which are nothing more than ridiculous action sequences that would come across like a Bollywood rip off of a AAA movie, except they are polished enough to avoid that association. This seems to extend to virtually any Japanese game made in the last 30 years that I've seen with few exceptions. Even the immensely popular Street Fighter games have endings and stories that are told badly, with convoluted plots that make no sense, I like those games, but its in spite of how bad the story telling is. The game play is mechanically better than any western fighting game.
Basically, you end up with disjointed styles, odd visuals and convoluted plots. Using my favorite example: Nier Automata basically checks every box for me on what not to do in a video game. It shouldn't have been that hard to execute. After all it's basically just a female version of Megaman wearing a thong and the science fiction version of a French Maid's outfit. I'd usually be all in for that, but even staring at 2B's finely crafted digital ass wasn't enough to make me like that boring ass game. Granted, they may not all be like this, but this is essentially every Japanese game I've ever played or looked into. Japanese games tend to have better polish than American games on a technical level, but they seem behind western games in a number of areas. I'm not a big fan of the Witcher series, but their story telling is vastly superior as is anything from BioWare. At least, Pre-EA BioWare.
Worse yet, is they all seem to have ultra-repetitive gameplay. They'll also switch styles on you. You have an overhead shooter at the start of Nier Automata which reminds me of the many arcade games which were dressed up versions of Galaga, and then it transitions into something else. Boss fights have oddly locked camera angles and weird ultra-repetative mechanics. I've played a handful of Japanese games over the last few decades and I never make it very far into any of them. They never grab me with their stories, style or gameplay. Every time a new one gets hyped up, I watch videos and its more of the same. Each time I've been interested enough to buy one I've been hugely disappointed.