Death of Windows XP Countdown

you guys took a screen shot of it and posted it as a pic? lol can't you just integrate the timer?
 
Somehow, somewhere there are Microsoft employees that actually believe this is a countdown to the success of Windows 8.
 
xX326Xx said:
Somehow, somewhere there are Microsoft employees that actually believe this is a countdown to the success of Windows 8.
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Nah, just higher adoption of Windows 7 :D. Good time to grab 7, too: I've seen several places that have Windows 7 Professional OEM versions on sale for ~$90 US right now ;).
 
tuksonrider said:
XP... you had a good run.
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Yup, no shame for XP.

Sad thing is, there's going to be a lot of people out there running XP for a good long while still. Of course, most of those machines are probably already chock full of viruses and malware, so just going to be business as normal.
 
Someone needs to put up a countdown for Windows 7. I can't wait for Windows 7 to die.
 
Armenius said:
Nah, just higher adoption of Windows 7 :D. Good time to grab 7, too: I've seen several places that have Windows 7 Professional OEM versions on sale for ~$90 US right now ;).
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Heh, I agree. I was just poking fun at the timer and all those Win8 evangelists. Funny thing about the page with the timer. The list of 10 things to dump XP for don't just apply to XP and some of them were laughable as likely has nothing to do with the OS itself but likely the hardware they are using. Trust me, I don't think Windows 8 doesn't do all the things it says it does, my problem is that it does what they say it will do, not what you want it to do. It isn't the end of the world with Win8, but Win7 still does what I want it to do.
 
The start of Linux will soon approach. I wonder how Microsoft is doing with that free version of Windows 8.

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Half the boxes at my office still run XP. No malware or viruses except when the senior partner takes a notebook (any notebook, or tablet, or sometimes even a smartphone... and its not even porn based malware!) away for a convention or vacation.

Some important software for my field requires XP or older to work and you try convincing white collar professionals in their 60's and early 70's who still call it "THE Google" and want telecopier printouts/ reproductions rather than faxes (faxing... still?) to properly run a virtual machine in either 7 or 8.1 where the emulator might, emphasis on might, allow the older program to work.
 
Upgrading to 7 is a retarded idea. You're upgrading from a 13 year old OS to a 5 year old OS.
 
while I see your point, I don't really think it is off topic

I just ran the update tool on the Palomino based CNC drivers out in the shop...unsupported instruction set, no 8.1 for them

I have absolutely no need, nor intention, to replace this hardware, in fact parallel ports are getting pretty hard to come by in new parts.

I am now, finally, for the first time seriously researching migration to a *nix based CNC suite. I can't be the only one.
 
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jojo69 said:
while I see your point, I don't really think it is off topic

I just ran the update tool on the Palomino based CNC drivers out in the shop...unsupported instruction set, no 8.1 for them

I have absolutely no need, nor intention, to replace this hardware, in fact parallel ports are getting pretty hard to come by in new parts.

I am now, finally, for the first time seriously researching migration to a *nix based CNC suite. I can't be the only one.
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meh, my CNC machine still has a PC running XP, and will probably continue to run XP till the machine retires in forever from now... it works just fine... even *gasp* has internet access and haven't had any issues...
 
FLECOM said:
meh, my CNC machine still has a PC running XP, and will probably continue to run XP till the machine retires in forever from now... it works just fine... even *gasp* has internet access and haven't had any issues...
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yeah, maybe I'll just pull the cat5 out of the back of them and sneakernet files out there on USB sticks
 
I have a client that has several industrial embroidery machines. The computers running them are 133mhz pentiums with Windows 95. It's a stand alone computer and still does what it's supposed to do. I don't think Windows 8 would be cost effective as it would require the entire machines to be replaced which is tens of thousands of dollars for just one of them.
 
Ashbringer said:
The start of Linux will soon approach. I wonder how Microsoft is doing with that free version of Windows 8.

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Already converted to mint 16 instead of Win8. Runs great and i'm like the push valve is giving linux with steam support that keeps getting better and better. I run Win7 dual-booted of course as some games just aren't supported. The desktop part has won me over though. It has come a long way and the workspaces actually function nice. I just wish the driver support was a little better with AMD but it's ok.
 
None of it matters, XP will continue to be widely used by corporate clients, for example, the company that runs hospitals around here and 4 other states has no plans to abandon XP and every instrument and every software they use runs on XP. To them it's completely irrelevant that Microsoft will stop patching XP since their machines are not on the Internet and access to the intranet is strictly controlled (i.e. no wireless devices on the Intranet, two factor authentication to log into a machine, etc.).

Also, LOLinux. I wish I had a buck for every time someone posted on the Internet that Linux will take over the desktop space, I'd be so filthy rich.
 
Thuleman said:
None of it matters, XP will continue to be widely used by corporate clients, for example, the company that runs hospitals around here and 4 other states has no plans to abandon XP and every instrument and every software they use runs on XP. To them it's completely irrelevant that Microsoft will stop patching XP since their machines are not on the Internet and access to the intranet is strictly controlled (i.e. no wireless devices on the Intranet, two factor authentication to log into a machine, etc.).

Also, LOLinux. I wish I had a buck for every time someone posted on the Internet that Linux will take over the desktop space, I'd be so filthy rich.
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Well I hope whoever wrote the risk analysis for that company was very thorough because their liability is about to go through the roof with HIPAA and Meaningful Use.
 
xX326Xx said:
Somehow, somewhere there are Microsoft employees that actually believe this is a countdown to the success of Windows 8.
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Wow, it only took 6 posts to have this thread derail into the beginning of a Windows 8 hate fest. :eek::D Took longer than I figure it would. Oh well, Windows XP is dead now but amazingly still works for something so old.
 
WinSomeLoseNone said:
We're just getting started with the actual migration.

Targeting EOM June for all workstations.
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We're about to do a slide in for home run. Management is very pleased as they thought it couldn't be done on schedule, but we're down from several thousand to 52 XP machines left. Woot! :D
 
It will be interesting to watch how (slowly) XP's share dips each month even after support officially ends. And I do wonder if most of those systems will be replaced at all. IOW, whether they'll be used until they die of hardware failures, or if they'll be replaced by non-Windows tablets.
 
Ducman69 said:
We're about to do a slide in for home run. Management is very pleased as they thought it couldn't be done on schedule, but we're down from several thousand to 52 XP machines left. Woot! :D
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Now those just need to get accidentally dropped down the stairs and you're all set!
 
pxc said:
It will be interesting to watch how (slowly) XP's share dips each month even after support officially ends. And I do wonder if most of those systems will be replaced at all. IOW, whether they'll be used until they die of hardware failures, or if they'll be replaced by non-Windows tablets.
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a lot of these machines are running hardware that is too expensive to replace, or simply has no reason to be replaced... I have some very expensive machines that have software that dosent run in anything past XP... I could buy an upgrade for hundreds or replace the equipment for thousands, but why? it works just fine

I still work on boxes for people running NT4... you would be amazing the mission critical things that we rely on that still run NT4/Win2k...
 
To be blunt the industry stuff will be with what ever it came with since the drivers half the time have lower level access than the HAL. As far as I know windows 7 does not support that but windows embedded does which uses xp and seven code. I expect any medical or industrial hardware to use some form of embedded rather than client OS at this point if it has not already happened for new equipment.

Half the CNC I know of are wireless at this point which always makes me shake my head, but the parallel port is too damn slow for detailed work. Sure if you are using stepper motors or basic g code but if you are sending solid work data to multiaxis machine most them seem to be USB, Ethernet, or wireless...
 
FLECOM said:
a lot of these machines are running hardware that is too expensive to replace, or simply has no reason to be replaced...
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I wouldn't think that to be the primary reason why 400-odd million PCs are still running XP right now. Outside of corporations, which just may not want to go through an OS upgrade on a large scale due to potential software incompatibilities and/or retraining costs, there are likely other main reasons individuals aren't moving from XP. The Vista and Win8.x debacles probably didn't instill much confidence in the fence sitters.

An exotic/expensive device attached to business and home PCs is only going to be a small minority of the systems running XP. (One analyzer at the last place I worked was still running on NT 4.0, due to driver support ending at that version, so I understand why some systems are not going to be upgraded. Those are a very tiny minority of all systems.)
 
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