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I got an idea on how to minimize the heat from the gpu to the cpu which I hope to do.
What is your idea for cooling in the A4?
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I got an idea on how to minimize the heat from the gpu to the cpu which I hope to do.
It will be harder doing it on the A4, but I'm thinking about making it completely sectioned out internally, only having a few holes at the bottom for wires, and a full spine instead of the half one with plastic. The mod will work a lot better in the Ghost S1 with a small tophat than on the A4. That plus fan to side panel mod on the cpu cooler should help quite a bit with the overall temps.What is your idea for cooling in the A4?
Also, I'm guessing this still wouldn't be enough to cool a 9900K in the A4...
It will be enough if you setup "Long Power Duration = 95W" in UEFI. If not the CPU will run with TDP ~200W and you need min 240mm AIO. 105W more TDP for a average performance gain of 8% this is so crazy.
My 7700K(delid) is going strong inside A4, but the high watt GPU's are driving up the temps as well. 9900K and a 2080ti would be a nasty combination inside the A4. I would definitely wait for Intel's 10nm or Ryzen 3 on 7nm if I were to buy a new cpu.Intel's architecture is hitting a brick wall. Their unrealistic tdp's are going to leave a lot of less informed consumers with thermally throttled cpu's
We'll see how it goes with the Black Ridge. I hope to be able to squeeze a small OC out of my 4790k.
My 7700K(delid) is going strong inside A4, but the high watt GPU's are driving up the temps as well. 9900K and a 2080ti would be a nasty combination inside the A4. I would definitely wait for Intel's 10nm or Ryzen 3 on 7nm if I were to buy a new cpu.
It will be harder doing it on the A4, but I'm thinking about making it completely sectioned out internally, only having a few holes at the bottom for wires, and a full spine instead of the half one with plastic. The mod will work a lot better in the Ghost S1 with a small tophat than on the A4. That plus fan to side panel mod on the cpu cooler should help quite a bit with the overall temps.
I need to try the same with my A4. So sick of the heat in this thing!
Ducting/sealing the cpu fan to the case vent/side panel will make a massive difference in any sff system. Same goes for the gpu too. If both are sealed to the side panels they act as case fans producing huge positive pressure inside the case. I did that in my Sentry for my gpu and cpu. Worked great. Sealing the two chambers probably wouldn't be necessary.
Are pre-orders for the cooler cheaper than the retail price? On the product page its 37.99 pounds sterling at check out its 31.99. Anyone else getting this?
Are pre-orders for the cooler cheaper than the retail price? On the product page its 37.99 pounds sterling at check out its 31.99. Anyone else getting this?
Also, will the corsair vengence LPX ram work with this or will I STILL have to remove the heat sinks because I could have sworn those are 34mm in height but I could be wrong.
Just FYI, a long time back I've replaced my G.Skill Ripjaws V heatsinks (which are too tall for Black Ridge) with cheap aftermarket heatsinks from China. Both of them (the original and aftermarket) are pasted on with thermal stickers and easy to remove and replace. I assume this is the same for most RAM out there, except for those RGB ones.
Just pry off the heatsinks carefully with a flat tip screwdriver, since they are just pasted on with stickers. Then get replacements like:Thanks! Could you share a little more about the whole process? And where you got those replacements?
Just pry off the heatsinks carefully with a flat tip screwdriver, since they are just pasted on with stickers. Then get replacements like:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Alu...ooler-Case-for-DDR-DDR2-DDR3/32842718591.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New...esktop-PC-DDR-DDR2-DDR3-DDR4/32801031161.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New...esktop-PC-DDR-DDR2-DDR3-DDR4/32801031161.html
And since Kingston Valueram comes without heatsink, you may not actually need them like mirgus said.
P.S. I'm not responsible for any damage caused. Please check that they are stickered on.
Those aftermarket heatsinks will come with stickers. The G.skill Ripjaws V heatsinks were just stickers as well.I do this completely at my own risk. I guess the Flare X is double sided, but do I use some form of thermal pads inside the new heatsinks? On both sides? Thanks!
I do this completely at my own risk. I guess the Flare X is double sided, but do I use some form of thermal pads inside the new heatsinks? On both sides? Thanks!
A die shrink isn't going to solve your problem. In fact, it'll make it worse. The smaller the die, the more concentrated the heat, the harder it is to dissipate. Dan himself said this is why he didn't rate the heat sink for a specific TDP. It's just not a good idea to put high end Intel chips in SFF builds unless you either undervolt, de-lid, or both.My 7700K(delid) is going strong inside A4, but the high watt GPU's are driving up the temps as well. 9900K and a 2080ti would be a nasty combination inside the A4. I would definitely wait for Intel's 10nm or Ryzen 3 on 7nm if I were to buy a new cpu.
If the preapplied tape doesn't work there is thermal adhesive tape available on e-tailers like Amazon. I used this to reattach a heatsink that fell of some crucial ddr3 memory. Holds stronger than the original. Very sticky, seriously you have to handle it with tweezers because it sticks to everything. I have used it for other projects like adding heatsinks gpu VRMs too.
I wonder how this would perform passively? I have an underclocked undervolt 35W part, no 2.5mm drive, no GPU and a pico PSU rather than a full PSU that goes to an external linear power supply.
I don't have the cooler to varify but based on my experience, you'll want airflow of some kind. Any at all will make a difference. Most completely passive things like tablets, modems, routers have a tdp of 5-10W. Most fanless pc's, like industrial pc's, with tdp ~35w or more typically sink to the case itself which is usually a huge chunk of aluminum, like 2kg of finned aluminum. This cooler is more like ~400g.
I have a 25W tdp Xeon E3 cpu, basically a very low clocked quad core i7, even with a Noctua NH-l9x65 cooler (with the stock noctua fan) on there it idles around 37C and gets up to 50C. (I'm sure that's partly Intel's paste TIM to blame)
It's not a tremendously expensive cooler so if you're already going to buy it anyway it could be worth a try though.
It very well could use a lot less power than the 14nm equivalent depending on how many transistors we are gonna see on 10nm. I doubt we will see "very slow clocks" on Intel's 10nm when it comes to high-end, but we are most likely going to see cheaper/low power cpu's using 10nm till it matures further and when that happens we are gonna see the release of their high-end generation.A die shrink isn't going to solve your problem. In fact, it'll make it worse. The smaller the die, the more concentrated the heat, the harder it is to dissipate. Dan himself said this is why he didn't rate the heat sink for a specific TDP. It's just not a good idea to put high end Intel chips in SFF builds unless you either undervolt, de-lid, or both.
If it's just for performance, 10nm on Intel's side will have very slow clocks relative to the 5ghz that we have on 14+++. That won't be worth waiting for. Ryzen 3 on the other hand, maybe.
You do know that 50C is insanely low for intel silicon even soldered stuff...
Hell, even GPUs tend to not ramp their fans until the cards are around 70C+.
Every single high end K sku on a Z platform has had at least 91W TDP since well, forever. There's no reason to believe that'll change this generation, especially given all the issues Intel has had making a working chip to begin with. The die shrinks always benefit the low power systems. High end rarely changes.It very well could use a lot less power than the 14nm equivalent depending on how many transistors we are gonna see on 10nm. I doubt we will see "very slow clocks" on Intel's 10nm when it comes to high-end, but we are most likely going to see cheaper/low power cpu's using 10nm till it matures further and when that happens we are gonna see the release of their high-end generation..
Every single high end K sku on a Z platform has had at least 91W TDP since well, forever. There's no reason to believe that'll change this generation, especially given all the issues Intel has had making a working chip to begin with. The die shrinks always benefit the low power systems. High end rarely changes.
I probably would have bought one too if that were the case. Its hard to give up these old CPUs.My body was so ready for this.....then saw that lack of X79/X99 support.
Yeah, the project started to cool the x99 on the asrock x99e-itx and after the 4 sample coolers came in Dan opted out due to the added cost of implementing x99 support. Sad times...I have been computerless for over a year due to it. I immediately sold my A4 and have been waiting on the Ghost S1.My body was so ready for this.....then saw that lack of X79/X99 support.
I would like to use the 120mm fan underneath. What VLP ram would you guys recommend for Z370 mITX motherboards?