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Instead of devoting time to a new mount for the C7, it may be more beneficial to drill vent holes along the bottom of the case and mount upward facing slim case fans to breath fresh air onto the entire motherboard, video card, and m.2 SSD.
Can somebody explain the point of the glass panels? More bulky + worse cooling just so you can see the components better? Don't know about you guys, but when I use my PC I usually look at the monitor, not the case..
Says a guy buying a €230,- case...Can somebody explain the point of the glass panels? More bulky + worse cooling just so you can see the components better? Don't know about you guys, but when I use my PC I usually look at the monitor, not the case..
Can somebody explain the point of the glass panels? More bulky + worse cooling just so you can see the components better? Don't know about you guys, but when I use my PC I usually look at the monitor, not the case..
Can somebody explain the point of the glass panels? More bulky + worse cooling just so you can see the components better? Don't know about you guys, but when I use my PC I usually look at the monitor, not the case..
how much extra room does the window panels add for cpu cooler and ram height?
Also, dust filters have to be periodically cleaned as well, no? I personally just blow some compressed air about ~once a year, seems like much less effort.Bah..when it gets dusty, its time to upgrade the internals anyway
On the subject of dust filters, just thinking out loud here but would it be a silly idea to just put the filters directly over the fans and let the positive air pressure keep the rest of the dust away?
Here is a small preview how the A4-SFX Window Kit will looks like. I attached the acryl version. Later you will see also pictures of the tempered glass version.
so you don't like it, no need to be rude about it. I see you in all the sff threads spouting off and being rude not constructive and so I ask again; since you seem to know better, whens you sff case coming out?Is this a joke? So you make a hole, put stand-offs and screw a randomly cut glass piece on top?
This has to be the worst side panel idea i have yet to see. By far.
Even more so because the glass? panels dont even resemble the shape of the case.
Jeeez christ. A complete disgrace
Is this a joke? So you make a hole, put stand-offs and screw a randomly cut glass piece on top?
This has to be the worst side panel idea i have yet to see. By far.
Even more so because the glass? panels dont even resemble the shape of the case.
Jeeez christ. A complete disgrace
Is this a joke? So you make a hole, put stand-offs and screw a randomly cut glass piece on top?
This has to be the worst side panel idea i have yet to see. By far.
Even more so because the glass? panels dont even resemble the shape of the case.
Jeeez christ. A complete disgrace
The main reason not to is filter restriction: the larger the filter area is, the lower the overall restriction of air passing through. This is why filters for air handling systems have that 'concertina' shape, to fit the largest fitler surface area in the smallest space. Putting the filter over just the fan makes it the smallest possible filter, and thus the most restrictive possible filter.On the subject of dust filters, just thinking out loud here but would it be a silly idea to just put the filters directly over the fans and let the positive air pressure keep the rest of the dust away? I attached a quick mockup showing what I mean.
Again, just a thought..
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On the subject of dust filters, just thinking out loud here but would it be a silly idea to just put the filters directly over the fans and let the positive air pressure keep the rest of the dust away? I attached a quick mockup showing what I mean.
Again, just a thought..
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prava, never read so much bullshit in one post. Congratulations. And i am not telling this because i am a fanboy, its just completly stupid what u suggest. This case shall be the smallest, so every mm counts and thats one of the main "buy" arguments. Not excuses there, thats why the sidepanel s are optional.
Why the window is installed that way is obviously...
The shape is arguably. I like it tho, although wont buy it because of transport reasons.
Dan i think the Acryl version looks better and is easier to handle... wouldnt break easy and can be replaced easily and its more transportable.
I think completly round corners on each corner would be awkward.
The 2 edges at the back fits perfectly, would be a mix of the to edges at the back and round edges at the front much more expensive? That way it would follow the shape of the case
prava, never read so much bullshit in one post. Congratulations. And i am not telling this because i am a fanboy, its just completly stupid what u suggest. This case shall be the smallest, so every mm counts and thats one of the main "buy" arguments. Not excuses there, thats why the sidepanel s are optional.
Why the window is installed that way is obviously...
The shape is arguably. I like it tho, although wont buy it because of transport reasons.
Dan i think the Acryl version looks better and is easier to handle... wouldnt break easy and can be replaced easily and its more transportable.
I think completly round corners on each corner would be awkward.
The 2 edges at the back fits perfectly, would be a mix of the to edges at the back and round edges at the front much more expensive? That way it would follow the shape of the case
DAN Cases A4-SFX Window Kit Prototype Test
Introduction:
I plan to offer a Window Kit for the A4-SFX in summer 2017. It will be accessories so you can buy it separately. I plan to sell each side for its own,
so you can decide if you need only one side or both. Therefore I worked with Lian Li on two samples. One with tempered glass and the other one is made
out of acryl. The design isn’t final so if you have wishes or ideas to the design don’t wait and write your comment in the thread.
Acryl/Plexi Version:
I use a 3mm thick acryl glass for this version. The acryl version is a bit darker then the tempered glass one. The quality is nearly on the same level
as the tempered glass version. Every corner is rounded so it looks really high grade. After I removed the protection foil the first time the acryl is
static charged. This means the panel attracts hair and dust. Wiping the panels with a wet cleaning rag will stop that forever.
For the final price the acryl is around 10€ cheaper.
(click for higher resolution)
Tempered Glass Version:
For the tempered glass version I had trouble getting what I want. In Taiwan the tempered glass market is controlled by the government, so it is very hard
to get every thickness and color. For the needed 3mm version it was impossible to get it in tea black, so I have to use the default version.
Furthermore tempered glass has restriction for the holes. I had to use a 5mm diameter for the mounting holes and the distance from the holes to the outer
surface has to be 18mm.
Every corner is rounded so it looks really high grade. The corners have a green gloss that is typical for not colored tempered glass. I have no static charged
problem with the tempered glass panels.
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Temperature Values:
I spend the last two days of testing the panels in different benchmarks and with different heatsink. All tests were made on my Socket X99 Setup with a
six core Intel i7 5820K and a Nvidia GTX 1070 Founders Edition. In the test are two new coolers present, that I managed to mount on the 2011-3 socket.
The new Thermalright AXP100H and the secret Nexus 7000 Low R2 (nearly sold out).
I will give you more information about the coolers later.
If you review the temperature test you will see, that temperatures will be much higher with the window kit. While gaming the temps and GPU fans speed on a
passable value, but after I start heavy benchmarks like 3D Mark and Prime95 the temps are rising in bad regions. I did a bit of research and found out what the problem is.
The glass is mounted with 5mm stand offs with the idea to have a small gab, that will help the exchange of hot air and yes this works, but not as good as
expected. At the beginning of every test the temperatures are in a good range, but for every minute the test will run longer the temperatures increase more and
more like a helix of temp death.
To explain why the temps are higher, I have to explain why the default panel will work so well:
Now I will explain it for the window panel:
- The fan can suck fresh air directly from the outside. Nearly 90% of the air will be taken from the outside and not from the inside.
- The fan creates positive air pressure inside the case, because of blowing air inside. This pressure will force hot air to move outside on the top.
These two reasons will increase the temp more and more, because the fan recycles hot air. It will stop at the point, where the 20% exchange through the gab
- The fan suck fresh air not directly from the outside, because there are no venting holes in the glass. So nearly 80% of the air will be used air from the
inside. I thought the gab will be enough to getting new fresh air, but a small 92mm fan is not strong and fast enough for this. So only 20% of the air will be air from the gab.
- The window kit isn’t closed enough, so the fan isn’t able to crate positive pressure because the air can move everywhere.
is enough for holding the temperature.
Conclusion:
For myself, I am very happy with the look, quality and feel of the new side panels. I made the decision to use them permanent on my system and living with
higher temps because benchmarking is not my daily business.
But the best surprise for me of the new test is the Nexus 7000 Low R2, it looks so great and is so powerful. But the best thing it is currently the best
heatsink for the A4 and it will also work with the default panels. (I will offer a how-to later)
Your decision:
Now it is up to you. Keep in mind that I used a 140W TDP CPU with the window.
If you think you have a idea that can change everything or an optimizing to the current design like round corners for the glass, please use the attached picture to visualize your idea.
- Do you like the design of the panel?
- What is your favorite version tempered or acryl?
- Do you think the results are ok or should I redesign the panels?
- What is more important design or good cooling. Adding holes will make the visibility worse.
(click for higher resolution)
With best regards and thank you for reading and supporting me
Daniel
I wouldn't worry much about what he says. If they trolling just put them on your block list, no need to feed 'em. I only noticed because I wasn't logged in.