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I understand the excitement about the case, but I don't understand this nonsense about "how about version 2, 3, 4 5, 6....when the version 1 isn't even released?!
...smh.
...smh.
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Dondan has other projects he wants to do too...
Stainless steel can have a really nice finish and great premium look. Plus, when you carry the case around often, it is the more practical material because it is less vulnerable to scratches. The thin steel you find in budget cases, that's really cheapo material.
As well as the "default" A4, there's also that steambox design, and I'm pretty sure he said he wanted to do something along the lines of a thin-ITX uSFF case...
As well as the "default" A4, there's also that steambox design, and I'm pretty sure he said he wanted to do something along the lines of a thin-ITX uSFF case...
There's the Alienware alpha (860m) and zotac en970 (hasn't come out yet - also has a weak cpu), but you are restricted greatly in upgradeability. Gigabyte Brix 760 while amazing concept, was a terrible implementation as it sounded like a blow-dryer when gaming and had throttling issues.
Holy crap, you've been here for 120 pages longer than me. I've gotta let that sink in. I feel like the bright-eyed little kid in the room who is seeing everything for the first time and who squeals in delight at any new progress. Meanwhile the seasoned elders of this thread look on stoically, having braved the long wait up until now by mastering the art of patience. Occasionally they indulge themselves by engaging their fellow sff enthusiasts in conversation, but they take care not to get too swept up in the thrill of news lest they be driven mad with desire for this tiny computer case. Instead they keep themselves occupied, moving on with their lives but staying ever vigilant for the day when the crowdfunding campaign shall begin, ushering in a new era of gaming.Been here since page 4, fervently checking this thread, waiting patiently to do my next build so that I can do it in the A4.
One question, what's the ETA???
(why does it take long to release this case? budget issue?)
Anyway one thing I don't like about the case is the length cos its designed to fit GTX980, and not everyone wants to use super long high-end GPU in ITX case.
Personally I think this case would be much better if it was bit shorter in depth. Obviously maximum supported GPU length will be reduced(but you can still use GTX970 Mini, R9 Nano etc) and can't use SFX-L PSU but the overall case size/volume would be smaller too oc.
My main reason for using ITX case is the small size cos that comes before anything else.
Anyway one thing I don't like about the case is the length cos its designed to fit GTX980, and not everyone wants to use super long high-end GPU in ITX case.
Maybe some people don't want to use standard length high-end GPUs, but I'd say that the vast majority do.
If you want to go with an ITX length GPU for high end gaming, you've realistically got two choices: a short GTX 970 or a R9 Nano, which isn't even out yet.
You're forgetting the power supply, which is what dictates the length of the A4 - not the GPU. If you want to actually shorten it you need to rotate the PSU so the wide side (125mm) is across the width of the case, rather than lengthwise. The case would have to be widened to do that, though, to a minimum of about 130mm, but depending on the chassis requirements (e.g., panel fasteners), up to 145mm. There's also little reason to put the PSU at the front with this layout, so you're looking at something more like 260 x 130~145 x 210mm (H x W x D), or 7.1 to 7.9L. No real volume savings, overall, but on the plus side it could support taller CPU coolers.standard Dan A4 = 114 x 200 x 318 = 7.25lt
new Dan A4 = 114 x 200 x 251 = 5.72lt (~27% smaller)
One question, what's the ETA???
(why does it take long to release this case? budget issue?)
Anyway one thing I don't like about the case is the length cos its designed to fit GTX980, and not everyone wants to use super long high-end GPU in ITX case.
Personally I think this case would be much better if it was bit shorter in depth. Obviously maximum supported GPU length will be reduced(but you can still use GTX970 Mini, R9 Nano etc) and can't use SFX-L PSU but the overall case size/volume would be smaller too oc.
My main reason for using ITX case is the small size cos that comes before anything else.
Well lets use Silverstone SG13/RVZ01 cases for an example since they are probably one of the most popular current ITX gaming cases. Do you think more than 50% of all SG13/RVZ01 owners use GTX980, 980Ti, Titan?
.... enough for GTX970 Mini, R9 Fury X
You are right, you'll have to change the design on Dan A4 due to layout but my point was simply I prefer small volume over long GPU or SFX-L PSU support etc, and personally I'd rather have 7.1lt Dan A4 with taller CPU cooler support.You're forgetting the power supply, which is what dictates the length of the A4 - not the GPU. If you want to actually shorten it you need to rotate the PSU so the wide side (125mm) is across the width of the case, rather than lengthwise. The case would have to be widened to do that, though, to a minimum of about 130mm, but depending on the chassis requirements (e.g., panel fasteners), up to 145mm. There's also little reason to put the PSU at the front with this layout, so you're looking at something more like 260 x 130~145 x 210mm (H x W x D), or 7.1 to 7.9L. No real volume savings, overall, but on the plus side it could support taller CPU coolers.
Well then you are probably gonna get frustrated by the limited CPU cooler choice with Dan A4.There are several mitx cases with reduced GPU lengths available, many made by Lian Li. As someone that has owned a few it gets frustrating to be limited in your GPU choice by the allowable GPU length of a case. I am thankful for Dan designing a case to be as small as it is and still accept full length cards while also providing proper airflow and heat removal.
As we've seen with AMD's new Fury GPU long cards might be a thing of the past, but as it stands today if you want better than avg gaming performance most of the cards are full length or you pay a premium for a niche product.
Well then you are probably gonna get frustrated by the limited CPU cooler choice with Dan A4. It's not 2013 anymore, you can get short and powerful GPU like R9 Nano(should be avail very soon) and NVidia's replacement for GTX970 Mini's gonna be even faster than R9 Nano(most likely).
To answer your edited post, yer I know not everyone with full length card is using a top of the line card. But I think people are willing to use shorter version of GPU(i.e. GTX970/960 Mini) for smallest ITX cases, cos otherwise you can buy ITX cases that support long length GPU(they are plenty of em).
The Fury X won't fit in those dimensions, nor will it support that CPU cooler height. IMO you should remove your post and make a new thread if you want to continue discussing it.- R9 Fury X should fit inside this case.
Silverstone SG14 = 150 x 222 x 222, 7.39lt (213mm GPU, 66mm heatsink, SFX PSU)
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lol a bit more direct than my response, but spot on.The Fury X won't fit in those dimensions, nor will it support that CPU cooler height. IMO you should remove your post and make a new thread if you want to continue discussing it.
Why wouldn't it fit R9 Fury X? radiator size? but eitherway it shouldn't be hard to fit Fury X with a small increase in dimension.The Fury X won't fit in those dimensions, nor will it support that CPU cooler height. IMO you should remove your post and make a new thread if you want to continue discussing it.
Unlike Dan I'm not interested in making my own case for profit etc. There is Silverstone rep in overclocker.net too, so they should see the post, but ok I'll make new thread here, I just hope they'll make smaller case that's all.Have you considered making a thread for your ideas? Might be a good way to get a dialog going with some of the other guys that are looking at creating mitx cases.
Also, there is a silverstone rep here on hardforum.
lol a bit more direct than my response, but spot on.
The thing about the Fury X is it's actually larger than a full-size card when you take into account the AIO and enough room to route the tubing. The card itself is short, but you have to look at the whole picture, and the Fury X is not a small form-factor solution overall.My thoughts are that I would love a case that is even smaller which fits shorter cards like the Fury X, and I would definitely prefer that once Nvidia makes flagships that are Fury X sized... but for now, I'll take my Dan A4 please.
Holy crap, you've been here for 120 pages longer than me.
Haha no, I didn't think you were being a tool. I was just trying to be funny. I was using semi-illustrative wording to paint a dramatized view of this thread, making it seem like there was some great divide between the "elders" who have been hardened by centuries of hopeless yearning, and newcomers like me who are just like "golly, that looks neat!". It was supposed to be humorous since it's just a computer case and not like the fountain of youth. Granted, it is still pretty dang awesome. Anyway sorry, reading through it again I can see why you thought that. But I wasn't trying to come across that way at all. Also, it was really late when I wrote that, so...I think you might have misunderstood the tone of my post.
I was mentioning it because I'm really proud of what dondan has accomplished and it's been truly inspiring watching this project from the start.
It's also been a challenge to hold off doing a new build until this case releases, since I don't have the time or the resources to do more than one build every 4 or 5 years, but I've been ready for quite some time already. I wanted dondan to know that I think this case is special enough to be worth the extra wait.
FWIW, you should see me in the morning when I open up [H] and go straight to this thread to see if there are any new posts. Far from stoic.
But I'm sorry you felt like I was just being a tool.
That's true, I was just kind of ignoring the big ol' watercooling stuff and focusing on the card itself, assuming that future cards could be air-cooled while maintaining a similar size thanks to HBM memory. Maybe that's just wishful thinking and the cooling solution would be a bottleneck preventing that from happening. I don't know how things work.The thing about the Fury X is it's actually larger than a full-size card when you take into account the AIO and enough room to route the tubing. The card itself is short, but you have to look at the whole picture, and the Fury X is not a small form-factor solution overall.
Haha no, I didn't think you were being a tool. I was just trying to be funny. I was using semi-illustrative wording to paint a dramatized view of this thread, making it seem like there was some great divide between the "elders" who have been hardened by centuries of hopeless yearning, and newcomers like me who are just like "golly, that looks neat!". It was supposed to be humorous since it's just a computer case and not like the fountain of youth. Granted, it is still pretty dang awesome. Anyway sorry, reading through it again I can see why you thought that. But I wasn't trying to come across that way at all. Also, it was really late when I wrote that, so...
Yeah I know, I'm embarrassed because it totally looks like I'm being a dick in that post depending on how you look at it.
It's impossible to tell between facetiousness and sarcasm on the internet. My bad.
Well, at least for the time being AMD is not allowing any aftermarket coolers for the Fury X. If they ever do, it's likely they'll all be full-length coolers, just like the regular Fury. It's still a fairly high TDP card, after all. The Fury Nano will likely be the only truly SFF card based on the Fury.That's true, I was just kind of ignoring the big ol' watercooling stuff and focusing on the card itself, assuming that future cards could be air-cooled while maintaining a similar size thanks to HBM memory. Maybe that's just wishful thinking and the cooling solution would be a bottleneck preventing that from happening. I don't know how things work.