DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

As you can see it s more than dual slot:

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Please read the compatibility section:
https://dan-cases.com/dana4_spec.html

max width: 40mm to 5mm backplate
Asus RTX 2070 = 51,6mm (https://www.asus.com/de/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-RTX2070-O8G-GAMING/specifications/)
 
dondan said:
Please read the compatibility section...
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Thanks, dondan - I guess I got a bit confused about the measurements, so wanted to check with the community.

It seems, also, that some stores (like the one I tend to use) give incorrect measurements - see the "specs" tab in the link below, for an irritating demonstration of that...

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA/74656-ROG-STRIX-RTX2070-O8G-GAMING

It's listed there as 4.89cm thick (or 48.9mm thick) but your info has it slightly thicker again.

Oh well... I guess I'll wait for the 2060 cards, and hope they're thinner.

Either that, or a ZOTAC... although I'm really keen to try to snag a three-fan card.
 
oblongpolygon said:
Thanks, dondan - I guess I got a bit confused about the measurements, so wanted to check with the community.

It seems, also, that some stores (like the one I tend to use) give incorrect measurements - see the "specs" tab in the link below, for an irritating demonstration of that...

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA/74656-ROG-STRIX-RTX2070-O8G-GAMING

It's listed there as 4.89cm thick (or 48.9mm thick) but your info has it slightly thicker again.

Oh well... I guess I'll wait for the 2060 cards, and hope they're thinner.

Either that, or a ZOTAC... although I'm really keen to try to snag a three-fan card.
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Did you look at the Gigabyte?
 
myzhi1 said:
Blower style hits thermal faster and are much louder. Personally, if I could back from a 2080Ti FE, I would go with 3rd party, like MSI Duke 2080Ti 7C less under load and quieter.
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This is contrary to everything i've been hearing on this forum and SFF. Allegedly blower cards are better with Dan's case at the sacrifice of noise.
 
While we're all talking about blower style cards, I've got a 1070FE, and need a shroud to stop it sucking in the cold... sorry... hot air from my AIO.

Is anyone aware of where I can get this sort of thing? Maybe 3D printed? Maybe a ghetto solution?


And I'm in Australia......... :(
 

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THeRoSSMaCHiNE said:
While we're all talking about blower style cards, I've got a 1070FE, and need a shroud to stop it sucking in the cold... sorry... hot air from my AIO.

Is anyone aware of where I can get this sort of thing? Maybe 3D printed? Maybe a ghetto solution?


And I'm in Australia......... :(
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You can get foam tapes, for example 7mmx7mm from home hardware supply stores. They are to prevent drafts in Windows/doors. I would think they would be good, you could stick it to the case panel or the GPU easily enough.
 
I'm thinking about installing my NVMe SSD on the backside of my motherboard. Will I run into issues?

I currently have the EK heatsink installed on it and I kinda remember it wont fit.
 
Hanakuso said:
I'm thinking about installing my NVMe SSD on the backside of my motherboard. Will I run into issues?

I currently have the EK heatsink installed on it and I kinda remember it wont fit.
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Hi I am running a M.2 on the backside of my gigabyte motherboard in the Dan case and had zero issues so far
 
ranker2 said:
I've built another Dan case build for use when I'm stationed overseas in south east asia. My thermals are horrendous and I'm wondering if by going with a blower RTX 2080 Ti, i'll be able to achieve overall better thermals. Right now I'm using an 8800k with an Asetek 92mm AIO and have been using a Nvidia FE RTX 2080 Ti. I'm considering getting the ASUS blower model and moving the FE into another computer of mine.

Any insight on whether going blower will result in better thermals?
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Hi I am using the ASUS 2080TI Turbo in my Dan A4-SFX and I am not having any issues
 
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Anyone painted their panels or such? I've only seen that hydrographic red skull pattern DAN a while back and nothing otherwise. Thought about personalising the outside of the case but didn't want to jump in and ruin the aluminium finish. Got custom printed vinyls as another option
 
Hi guys here are all changes for A4-SFX v4

- ADT 185mm PCIe x16 gen 3 riser
- USB 3.0 Typ-C to 20pin intrnal header (90% confirmed)
- changed to the drive bay so it will support 15mm thick drives
- added thread for easy installation of custom window kits
- adding 92mm fan support under the motherboard
- lifting up motherboard for better bottom fan clearance
- the 120mm AIO bracket will not be included and an optional part on SFFLab

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With best regards
Daniel
 

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That fan underneath the motherboard should help cpu temp big time. Just purchased v2 used few weeks ago. Very nice case but seeing the v4 i should have waited instead :(
 
dondan The PNY 2080 Ti XLR8 OC is not compatible with the Dan case. It's 1-3mm too long.

If you push it in it can fit but the card scrapes against the inside of the case. This won't work with the 92mm AIO as the card hits one of the tubes.

It's a shame as I have to return the case now due to a few mm.
 
Momo777 said:
dondan The PNY 2080 Ti XLR8 OC is not compatible with the Dan case. It's 1-3mm too long.

If you push it in it can fit but the card scrapes against the inside of the case. This won't work with the 92mm AIO as the card hits one of the tubes.

It's a shame as I have to return the case now due to a few mm.
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Is this confirmed?

I don't mind if it scrapes against the case. So long as it fits I'll be ok. I'm a bit curious as to how it won't work with the Asetek 92mm AIO. It shouldn't matter as you can bend the tubes beneath the card right?


I just bought the exact same card card and haven't even opened the box yet.
 
dondan said:
Hi guys here are all changes for A4-SFX v4

- ADT 185mm PCIe x16 gen 3 riser
- USB 3.0 Typ-C to 20pin intrnal header (90% confirmed)
- changed to the drive bay so it will support 15mm thick drives
- added thread for easy installation of custom window kits
- adding 92mm fan support under the motherboard
- lifting up motherboard for better bottom fan clearance
- the 120mm AIO bracket will not be included and an optional part on SFFLab

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Daniel
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Hi Dan,

I think that you should consider to put the power supply at the bottom, so the liquid cooling radiators can breath clean air from the top:

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Gains are noticeable between -22% and -15% lower temps:

96ºC vs 75ºC in push >> -21ºC (and you don’t fry the table nor the internals)
84ºC vs 71ºC in pull >> -13ºC

Yo may also consider to cut down the space where the power supply cable connector is located to leave more space for the aio fan and psu cables in the opposite side.

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It is the only thing that lasts to become the perfect case and it is a small modification.
 
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I thought one of the V4 improvements were to move the PSU bracket up? If that’s the case then I think Dan wants to keep V1-V4 PSU brackets interchangeable
 
Hello, I´ve got a question:
I ve got a ryzen 7 2700x cooled the aluminium version of the Cryorig C7 ( stock fan replaced with a noctua) and one case fan by noctua. Athough i am pretty happy with the low noise, I´ve got some heat issues:
My CPU is ideling around 45 C tdie and when I start to stress it with the Stress Tool of CPU-Z, after 50 seconds with the sidepanal on and after 2 miutes with the sidepanal off the CPU reaches 85 C tdie and begins to throttel. After I read that other users don´t have heat issues with the C7 and a Noctua fan, i am a bit confused and worried. I´ ve also read about bad soldered heatpipes in the Alpenföhn Black Ridge which then had also a very bad performence, which made me think of problems with my C7. So, are my heat problems normal for this case and especially fpr this cooler or are there other reasons for these temperatures? I would be gald if i could get some tips for lowering my temperatures. :)
 
pedrofan said:
I think that you should consider to put the power supply at the bottom, so the liquid cooling radiators can breath clean air from the top:

Gains are noticeable between -22% and -15% lower temps:

96ºC vs 75ºC in push >> -21ºC (and you don’t fry the table nor the internals)
84ºC vs 71ºC in pull >> -13ºC

Yo may also consider to cut down the space where the power supply cable connector is located to leave more space for the aio fan and psu cables in the opposite side.

It is the only thing that lasts to become the perfect case and it is a small modification.
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Those temp differences are amazing. Do you know what the the clearance is between the floor of the case and the surface it's placed on? I know for the M1 it's about 1cm and that's barely enough, I'm curious what it is for the A4-SFX. I was interested in the new Mjolnir I case because it has bottom 120mm fans, supports a 120mm AIO and has window panels, which in theory solves the air pressure/dust control/CPU cooling issues of the A4-SFX has for an extra 2.5L of volume, which to me is worth it. However, that case only has 5mm of clearance for the bottom fans which seems highly insufficient, reducing airflow greatly, and honestly rendering them almost useless. And they refuse to change the design, so it's a deal breaker for me unfortunately, but now I'm wondering how much clearance the A4-SFX has. Granted, the Asetek 92mm AIO is going away and the A4-SFX relies more heavily on side intake, so it's not as bottom-intake dependent and can get away with less, but... just curious.
 
QuantumBraced said:
Those temp differences are amazing. Do you know what the the clearance is between the floor of the case and the surface it's placed on? I know for the M1 it's about 1cm and that's barely enough, I'm curious what it is for the A4-SFX. I was interested in the new Mjolnir I case because it has bottom 120mm fans, supports a 120mm AIO and has window panels, which in theory solves the air pressure/dust control/CPU cooling issues of the A4-SFX has for an extra 2.5L of volume, which to me is worth it. However, that case only has 5mm of clearance for the bottom fans which seems highly insufficient, reducing airflow greatly, and honestly rendering them almost useless. And they refuse to change the design, so it's a deal breaker for me unfortunately, but now I'm wondering how much clearance the A4-SFX has. Granted, the Asetek 92mm AIO is going away and the A4-SFX relies more heavily on side intake, so it's not as bottom-intake dependent and can get away with less, but... just curious.
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With the stock feet the distance between the table and the case is more or less 5mm. It doesn’t matter if you put the fan in pull or push, It makes ground effect so it loses a lot of efficiency.

The temps I’m showing are by turning the case upsidedown, so you clear the air intake (or exhaust), so the ground effect is gone and the intake (outake) flow is maximized.
 
Rig update: I managed to fit 3x5TB HDDs inside this case.
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Specs are

Intel core i9 9900K
Nvidia RTX 2080Ti
2x16GB Corsair LPX 2800Mhz RAM
Corsair SF600
Samsung 970 EVO 2TB
Samsung 860 EVO 2TB
Crucial MX500 2TB
3x Seagate 2.5" 5TB HDDs

Seriously though, I feel I am addicted to cramming. Where do I go from here? There's nothing left to upgrade :(
 
seamon said:
Rig update: I managed to fit 3x5TB HDDs inside this case.

Specs are

Intel core i9 9900K
Nvidia RTX 2080Ti
2x16GB Corsair LPX 2800Mhz RAM
Corsair SF600
Samsung 970 EVO 2TB
Samsung 860 EVO 2TB
Crucial MX500 2TB
3x Seagate 2.5" 5TB HDDs

Seriously though, I feel I am addicted to cramming. Where do I go from here? There's nothing left to upgrade :(
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That is neutron star-like density. How are the HDDs attached, double sided tape?

What cooler are you using, how are the temps on the 9900K?

And what feet are you using? Usually aftermarket feet look bad, but these look nice.
 
QuantumBraced said:
That is neutron star-like density. How are the HDDs attached, double sided tape?

What cooler are you using, how are the temps on the 9900K?

And what feet are you using? Usually aftermarket feet look bad, but these look nice.
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LP53+TY100
90-95C in AIDA64
 
3rd gen Ryzen looks tempting seeing the press and such surrounding it... A4 AM4 builders, what CPU cooler do you have? I'd be sticking to air and all I know that works and is effective are the L9a, L9I with AM4 brackets and both C7s.

I suppose anyone can answer this bit though since it's compatible with both Intel/AMD, does the Cryorig C7/Noctua A9x14 combo eliminate the infamous C7 turbulence?
 
In anticipation of the V4 I played around and tested different fans on my NH-L9i and the best sound/performance was the Gentle Typhoon. It’s too bad they’re hard to find nowadays in the small version
 
Turns out a 40mm fan fits nicely at the back of the case above the GPU.

A 40x20mm Noctua fan means it's near silent and it does a really good job of pushing air.

I cut it out using a holesaw, and cleaned up using a Dremel to get rid of the rough edges. A little black paint helped cover it up.
The fan had to be modified slightly by rounding one of the edges. This wouldn't have been necessary if I had properly planned the holes and cut closer to the side of the case.

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so built a new system in the A4-SFX V3 this xmas costing me £2,500 was really excited !! and got the blackridge low profile cooler for the system for it to be recalled !! so having to make do with another cooler for the time being. Overclockers UK has sent me two replacement blackridge coolers in the meantime both faulty and now sent a 3rd one out with no guarantee if this one is faulty or not. this cooler is massive pain in the ass
 
duke00 said:
How high are the temps difference with and without this 40mm fan ?
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The temperatures are exactly the same where the GPU temp caps out at ~68. However the gpu fan speed is lowered by a fraction.

I've put the logs up here.


All in all, it does very little.
 
Does anybody know if the HDPLEX 400W AC-DC fits in the case (under the Graphics Card or over it), with the HDPLEX 400W DC-ATX PSU?
If so, you could use the space where the SFX PSU would fit, to get a bigger CPU radiator, right?
 
If anyone is looking for a bag to transport the case, the Meta Threads Lvl3 is perfect. Really easy to transport the A4 / laptop / keyboard / etc
 
Im about to start building my dan a4 but need a cooler. Would a cryorig c7 copper be the best choice and is it worth 22€ more than the regular c7? I was thinking of buying the alpenföhn black ridge but it seems to be discontinued?
 
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