DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

Discussion in 'Small Form Factor Systems' started by dondan, Dec 30, 2013.

  1. Vyker

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    Just bought the parts for my build in the V2.

    Looking forward to it.

    Feel free if anyone has any comments or feedback on my part list. GPU is a 1050Ti Palit at the moment, but i'll replace it with the 2060 when it's out. 950 Pro 512 m2 and 960 1Tb SSD also joins the parts list. All paired with a S2716DG Dell Monitor :)

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  2. richiegore

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    Maybe check the tested ram list for your motherboard. Its more likely to work well with minimal effort. You should find the list on the Asus website.
     
  3. Vyker

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    Thanks for the tip - Just checked and we're good to go!

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  4. Vyker

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    Built!

    Really easy getting all the parts into the board. Love the m.2 Heatsink. Under stress test it only got to 58c

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    Then the hard part started! Getting the PSU cables in

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    Though I've got to say the bending of the GPU cable into the socket was very hard, in hindsight i would suggest you connect it before you screw the board in.

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    I opted for a "curl" versus "fold" for cable management. I can't believe you you're all getting AIO's or even case fans into that space, it's madness how small and tight it all is.

    Then it was all done, in only 90mins or building..

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    Temps so far are:

    Ryzen 5 2600 idles at 50c with 1000-1200rpm on the noctua fan
    1050ti idle is 40c
    M.2 is 45c idle or thereabouts.

    Under gaming, ( I dont really play AAA titles) the fans spin up a bit, but nothing too troublesome. All in all, in general use, the thing is silent, and I love it!

    If anyone has any questions don't hesitate to ask.

    Thanks Dan
     
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  5. dondan

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    Here is the RTX 2080 & RTX 2080 Ti compatibility list:

    RTX 2080 Ti Cards:

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition = compatible

    ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Advanced = incompatible (3 Slot)
    ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 2080 Ti OC = incompatible (2.5 Slot)
    ASUS Turbo GeForce RTX 2080 Ti = compatible

    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC Gaming = compatible
    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC Ultra Gaming = incompatible (3 Slot)

    Gainward GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Phoenix GS = incompatible (3 Slot)
    Gainward GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Phoenix = incompatible (3 Slot)

    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Gaming OC 11G = incompatible (2.5 Slot)
    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Windforce OC 11G = compatible

    INNO3D GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Gaming OC X3 = compatible
    INNO3D GeForce RTX 2080 Ti X2 OC = compatible

    KFA² GeForce RTX 2080 Ti OC = compatible

    MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Duke 11G OC = incompatible (2.5 Slot)
    MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio = incompatible (3 Slot)

    Palit GeForce RTX 2080 Ti GamingPro OC = incompatible (3 Slot)
    Palit GeForce RTX 2080 Ti GamingPro = incompatible (3 Slot)

    PNY GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Blower Design = compatible
    PNY GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XLR8 Gaming Overclocked = compatible

    Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 2080 Ti AMP Edition = incompatible (3 Slot)
    Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Triple Fan = incompatible (3 Slot)



    RTX 2080 Cards:

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition = compatible

    ASUS Dual GeForce RTX 2080 OC = incompatible (3 Slot)
    ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 OC = incompatible (2 Slot)

    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 XC Gaming = compatible
    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 XC Ultra Gaming = incompatible (3 Slot)

    Gainward GeForce RTX 2080 Phoenix GS = compatible
    Gainward GeForce RTX 2080 Phoenix = compatible

    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Gaming OC 8G = incompatible (2.5 Slot)
    Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Windforce OC 8G = compatible

    INNO3D GeForce RTX 2080 Gaming OC X3 = compatible
    INNO3D GeForce RTX 2080 Jet = compatible
    INNO3D GeForce RTX 2080 X2 OC = compatible

    KFA² GeForce RTX 2080 OC = compatible

    MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Duke 8G OC = incompatible (2.5 Slot)
    MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Gaming X Trio = incompatible (3 Slot)
    MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Sea Hawk X = unknow
    MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ventus 8G OC = unknow

    Palit GeForce RTX 2080 GamingPro OC = compatible
    Palit GeForce RTX 2080 GamingPro = compatible

    PNY GeForce RTX 2080 Blower Design = compatible
    PNY GeForce RTX 2080 XLR8 Gaming OC Triple Fan = compatible
    PNY GeForce RTX 2080 XLR8 Gaming OC Twin Fan = compatible

    Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 2080 AMP Edition = incompatible (3 Slot)
    Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 2080 Blower = compatible
     
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  6. thed00d

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    I got the 2700X in my build, it definitely is throttling on synthetic load (down to 3.5 for me), but I never had this while rendering or gaming, so it doesn't affect me that much - as CknSalad said, you'll be around 3.8GHz with it, if using the Cryorig C7 - which is pretty loud tho.

    I personally am moving forward to Dans new C4 case, as soon as it gets released, to stuff a watercooler in.
     
  7. richiegore

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    Maybe wait and see what the Alpenföhn® Black Ridge turns out like? It is fun to rebuild in a new case though...
     
  8. Eugenides

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    Yeah, after looking at a bunch of sources, I have decided to go with the 2700. You're looking at 15 to 20C temp differences for about 10% less performance, but the 2700 still gives you a lot of power for casual gaming. Who cares if you're at 120+ fps instead of 140?
     
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  9. dglow

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    Dan, doesn't ASUS make a 2080 version of the Turbo GeForce that would fit the A4?
     
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  11. Filipe

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    Hi... Can you tell if the aio fits with the sfx psu? Thanks
     
  12. skupey

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    kraken m22 can fit, but you must use 120mm slim fan like scyhte fan slim or noctua slim fan 15mm. another aio have a problem about tubing, its so short around 30-32 cm.
     
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  13. Filipe

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    I am asking because the aio as 32 or 33mm tickness... Plus 15mm or 12 for the fan could not fit...
     
  14. ezeftw

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    Guys, anyone in Germany with custom cables? I'm looking for some advice of where to buy those
     
  15. thehack

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    Tip: don't get the M22. Get the rosewill version which had a slimmer cpu block.

    Here is mine with the rosewill PB120. Using a thermalright fan to cool the motherboard area. 65C gaming run on 2600X.

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    Is a pain to install. Had to remove the PCIE riser board. I recommend Dancase shave off 2mm for the middle board to make it easier for these types of builds.
     
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  17. thehack

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    Nothing better than the Noctua for air cooling. Consider making some kind of shroud for the cooler so that it is restricted to only taking in cool air.
     
  18. Protherius

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    Does someone know when the window kit will be available again?
     
  19. ranker2

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    I'm attempting my first iteration of a Dan v2 build. I'm currently trying to decide between a 2080 ti blower card (Nvidia Founders or Asus Turbo edition) vs an open 3 fan model (PNY XLR8). Which should I get for best temps given our case and fan configuration.

    Also how should one configure the CPU fan. It should blow down into the CPU heatsink or up and away? I have a noctua L9i.

    The only other fan in the case right now is the PSU fan (Corsair SF600) and a 92mm fan (Artic F9) mounted at the bottom where the AIO would be.

    This will be my system that I'll be taking with me on my month long rotations into South East Asia where ambient temps are 88-96 degrees F.

    ASUS ROG Strix Z370-i Gaming
    i7-8700
    G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16GB
    Samsung 970 PRO 1TB NVMe M.2
    Corsair SF600
    Noctua NH-L9I
     
  20. cowsgomoo2

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    No one is ever happy with blowers. Everything should blow inwards.
     
  21. aiphoenix

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    What kind of shroud? Something 'boxing' the fan on all sides bar top and bottom, or a plate mounted on top of the fan?
     
  22. Vcom

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    Like this, thanks to thehack
     
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  23. mirgus

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    or modify a bitspower fan adapter with sandpaper. Fits perfect on the Noctua L9(i,a)

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  24. bennyGrose

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    Hey quick question, does anyone else's case get exceedingly hot in the top back area? As in basically right above the PCIe riser. Its pretty warm when the computer is idling or I'm just using Chrome, but after an extended gaming session that area of the case is incredibly hot to the touch. Just want to check if I'm alone on this one or if its pretty standard.

    delidded 8700k on a z370i with a lp53+a9x14, paired with a 1080ti sc2
     
  25. Nanook

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    I have observed the same thing. I have a similar set up as you. It really helps to have some sort of exhaust fan in the case. I have two 40mm fans exhausting air out the rear top, and this actually helps lower the housing temperatures.
     
  26. Aegelward

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    I've currently got an Sapphire Nitro RX 580 in mine and... my only complaint is the fact it makes a high pitched sound and i pop the side off when doing intense gaming to keep it quiet. Is this particularly unique to the Nitro cards, or will any GPU i buy exhibit it?
     
  27. teo

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    is it a whining/squeal type noise that happens when the gpu is under full utilization? that might be coil whine which could be helped by undervolting (or not). if it gets better when the side panel is off, though, I assume it's because the fans start producing that tone after a certain rpm. if you have temperature head room (< 80ish degrees) you can set a custom fan curve via software like msi afterburner to keep them a little slower.
     
  28. Flowmotion

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    Is the cooling performance of the noctua nh-l9i better by using an 25 mm fan instead of the one included in the package?
     
  29. Vcom

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    Ready for LAN-party. Case (V1) + mouse + keyboard + cables + mouse pad. Monitor and headset in seperate bag.

    System:
    AMD Ryzen 2700X (undervolted)
    Asus ROG Strix X470-I Gaming
    G.Skill Flare X F4-3200C14D-16GFX
    Noctua NH-L9a
    Corsair SF600
    Samsung 970 Evo 1TB
    AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 Limited Edition 8GB (undervolted)
    Noctua nf-a9x14 (2x intake at bottom, extra holes drilled)
    Eizo Foris FG2421
    Vortex POK3R LE Mechanical Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700
    CM Storm Sirus 5.1 Gaming Headset

    temperatures gaming: CPU 60 and GPU 65-70
    Timespy score: 6902
     
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  30. Rorschach

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    Anybody with the 'low power' 8700T cpu on this case? Or the 2700 AMD is a far better choice? Thank you.

    I have the 6700T - great little CPU - apparently just 35W TDP and I keep it on the Intel's stock cooler since it does the job, for now.

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  31. mirgus

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    How much did the case cost?
     
  32. ranker2

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    What a fantastic solution. Can you provide a link to where you purchased that case.

     
  33. Vcom

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    https://www.koffersenkisten.nl/fae-007509.html

    €26 and free shipping in the Netherlands

    Its sturdy enough. Bought Some foam (€7) at a local shop and €1,99 glue. Could have done it with half the foam but changed the lay-out and thickness. Now used 1 cm and 2 cm. In the bottom 2x 1cm with mouse pad (metal) in between.
     
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  34. M4vr1c1o

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    Hi, can you supply the schematic for the CPU cooler fan black air thingy ? XD

    Thanks
     
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  36. Racemouse

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    Hello!
    I'm using the ROG Strix Z270i pro gaming mother board and using both the M2-ssd slots. Are you guys using the heatsink for it?
    My front SSD has started making weird buzzing noices now. Is it about to die?
    It's a Samsung 960 EVO 500GB.
     
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  37. ezeftw

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    How are your temps on the rear M2 SSD?
     
  38. vishcompany

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    No. Better install a fan shroud.
     
  39. Racemouse

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    I don't know how accurate this is. But this is my temps right now.
     
  40. Flowmotion

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    The front m.2 gets very hot. The chipset under the m.2 heats the m.2 up.