DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

The only way this could be true is if it housed the USB-C -> DisplayPort adapter inside itself. Now show me even one single gaming GPU that has a USB-C connector that will work with an adapter and also supports powering the device it connected to.

Such adapters are not bidirectional. So even if there is some obscure gaming GPU that supports this setup, 99.999% won’t.

Got it. The concerns raised earlier in this thread involved the lag or responsiveness of these portable displays. With this, a native DisplayPort model, that concern is eliminated. But yeah, no bueno if your GPU of choice won't drive it; clearly they designed these for laptops.

If these displays become popular enough then I imagine someone, somewhere will offer a combo DP to USB-C cable + power supply.

Any bets on when AMD or NVidia first add USB-C outputs to their cards?
 
Got it. The concerns raised earlier in this thread involved the lag or responsiveness of these portable displays. With this, a native DisplayPort model, that concern is eliminated. But yeah, no bueno if your GPU of choice won't drive it; clearly they designed these for laptops.

If these displays become popular enough then I imagine someone, somewhere will offer a combo DP to USB-C cable + power supply.

Any bets on when AMD or NVidia first add USB-C outputs to their cards?

MSI GTX 1080 Ti with usb-c.
 
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Anyone have some advice about putting new feet on the bottom of the case?
I'm wanting to raise it a bit to improve airflow.
 
Anyone have some advice about putting new feet on the bottom of the case?
I'm wanting to raise it a bit to improve airflow.
I don't know if anyone's swapped out the feet on the V2, but for the V1, some folks used feet from a German company called Dynavox. For example:

https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-a...in-the-world.1799326/page-273#post-1042963548

My understanding is that the primary motivation for this was that the V1 feet were quite slippery. IIRC, they've been replaced with grippier ones for the V2. I can confirm that the V2 feet do not have any slippage problems, but I had similar thoughts re: airflow.
 
I recently shoved a 120mm AIO cooler into my v1 Dan case. It works like a dream now, even if it isn't as pretty as some of the Hall of Fame entries.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/cP9J7P
 

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Now that the v3 A4 cases are reaching us I'm wondering if Dan has plans to do another production run of the window kits.
 
Received mine today as well (Norway), hopefully will start building in it this weekend.
 
Now that the v3 A4 cases are reaching us I'm wondering if Dan has plans to do another production run of the window kits.
He does plan on making new window kits... but he has nothing to share in terms of pricing and availability. I was told this one month ago. And since the window kit isn't released yet has anyone managed to close the sidepanel with the asetek 545lc. Or will I have to use no sidepanels till the new window kit?
 
He does plan on making new window kits... but he has nothing to share in terms of pricing and availability. I was told this one month ago. And since the window kit isn't released yet has anyone managed to close the sidepanel with the asetek 545lc. Or will I have to use no sidepanels till the new window kit?

I have, with Corsair vengeance ram. If you check my post history you can see my entire process. Doesn't work with G Skill or other tall memory modules.
 
I have, with Corsair vengeance ram. If you check my post history you can see my entire process. Doesn't work with G Skill or other tall memory modules.
Sweet I got that ram! Building my pc in a month I'll be sure to check your build! I'm sure temps are better then with the window kit..
Edit: i cannot find your build i went through all your old posts.
 
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Sweet I got that ram! Building my pc in a month I'll be sure to check your build! I'm sure temps are better then with the window kit..
Edit: i cannot find your build i went through all your old posts.

Disclaimer: camera and lighting were not ideal for properly staged photography.

Stats upfront:
Intel 4790K @ 4.4 GHz
Asus Maximus VII Impact
16 GB Ram
512 GB 950 Pro
500 GB 850 Evo
Corsair SP 600
EVGA GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0
Asetek 92mm AIO /w Noctua NF-A9-14

I completed my build, using the AIO, but it wasn't long until I realized a problem - the PSU cables were pushing down on the noctua fan just enough to prevent it from spinning, so temps flew out of control. Currently, the PSU is outside the case while I try to figure it out. Anyone have a similar problem?

In its current state, idle temps are around 37 C with gaming temps about 52 C. I have previously overclocked this CPU to 4.8 GHz successfully on a corsair h100i v2, but with current numbers I think 4.4 GHz is a much safer bet. "Devil's Canyon" and all that.

While I would like to upgrade to a ryzen system (using the Asus strix board) to take advantage of all those threads for my VM workloads, it's been really hard for me to justify a new system (if we ignore Meltdown and Spectre for those following that debacle) given the performance I have under the hood, and this system is only about 4 years old.

I was having the same issue. Like sldr I picked up the Corsair cables eventually (which I'll be posting about later today), but I was also using the stock cables successfully with a 92mm fan grill installed over the noctua fan, then I routed the 2 PCI-E cables up the channel between the PSU and the motherboard, the 24-pin across the noctua and stuffing whatever excess into the space between the radiator and the front ssd panel, etc etc. Twisty ties or zip ties help a bit. You can see some layouts from prevous posts of mine and others, but it's fairly simple to manage all the cables except the 24-pin which requires a little more...attention than the others in my experience.

Edit: I'm late, I see you already found a solution!

Disclaimer: Usual apology for non-ideal camera or lighting conditions.

This is the upgrade from my previous Maximus VII Impact build here.

Specs:
Asus ROG Strix B350i Gaming
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0
Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz @ 32 GB
Samsung 950 Pro 512 GB
Samsung 960 Evo 1 TB
Samsun 850 Evo 500 GB
Corsair SF600 PSU
Asetek 545LC AIO CPU Cooler
Noctua A9x14 92mm Fan
Reevan Vanxie 80x10mm fan

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Below are the temps I've gotten on core components. While gaming is not all I do with this rig, it is the most thermally demanding activity even if the device in question is not directly involved in gaming. All temps are reported from HWiNFO after an hour of using it normally.

CPU
Idle temps: 44 C~
Gaming temps: 50-75 C

GPU

Idle: 51 C
Gaming: 75 C

Drives
950 (back M.2 slot, system drive)
Idle: 62 C
Gaming: 73 C

960 (front M.2, virtual machine drive)
Idle: 62 C
Gaming: 74 C
Note: This drive reports 2 temperature sets, so I included the set that was higher.

850 (front panel ssd, game storage)
Idle: 34 C
Gaming: 40 C

Motherboard
Note: This board does not include VRM sensors for some reason, so I am reporting the highest reported temp.
Idle: 60 C
Gaming: 74 C

All temps are with the 80mm fan off. It makes an unbelievable amount of noise even on a silent curve and I haven't determined if it's turbulence or a bad fan. Also, I plan to reroute the 24pin cable into the GPU area as I've seen in other builds as it will make closing the side panel a little easier (everything closes but there is a small amount of pressure on the panel from the cabling). Haven't set up the RGB effects the way I want so I don't have any pics of it lit up, but the lighting zones are pretty tastefully placed.

Also, I have some concerns about the AIO tubes being right over the exhaust fan; is it possible that the water will start heating up from the exhaust, creating a feedback loop?

 
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Anyone excited to see results from fanless Silverstone NJ450-SXL which just released?

Need a jonnyguru review to see how it will fare in a hot environment such as inside a a4sfx.
 
I don't see the need for that PSU because the Corsair is very silent if you get a good version. You will have no real advantage of the fanless psu under load because you will hear the cpu fan noise.
 
Sorry for the stupid question but I figured I'd ask anyways. I'm only a few parts away from completing my build but I was wondering if it was possible to use the G.Skill TridentZ RGB RAM with the AIO and having the side panel closed? I plan on using the windowed side panel. Just making sure before I dump money on memory

Thank you
 
You know what's friggin hard?
Waiting for the end of the workday, knowing your roomie walked to customs to get your SFX-A4, sitting now at home... argh!
 
Just wanted to drop some install notes before I forget for anyone interested in using either the HDPlex PSU or the NZXT M22 120mm AIO in the Dan case v3.

- This AIO (M22) is not on Dan's supported AIO list, but if you use a 120x15mm fan you're fine. The CPU block is exactly 48mm tall, the rad about 32mm. I think you have around 52mm of possible clearance.

- If you install in pull config (presumably for acoustics/to avoid turbulence/because you don't know about screws like me) AND you want the HDPlex, you can keep the front USB but it's a little tricky.

- The HDPlex seems to only have one accessible screw mount. I may be missing it because I've already mounted my SSD to the front panel. 3M tape neatly solves this. (dondan corrected me, there are 4 standoffs for mounting)

- You are losing some GPU space with the HDPlex, so if you've somehow fit a kingpin in the v2, I'm uh...sorry for your loss?

- If you installed the radiator with the tubes on the top, I think you could also the 92mm fan beneath it. I think it might vary between AIOs.

I'm still working on the case, and I'll provide my notes on cable management and hopefully thermals tomorrow.
 

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Sorry for the stupid question but I figured I'd ask anyways. I'm only a few parts away from completing my build but I was wondering if it was possible to use the G.Skill TridentZ RGB RAM with the AIO and having the side panel closed? I plan on using the windowed side panel. Just making sure before I dump money on memory

Thank you

It depends; if you're using the 92mm AIO then no, not if you want to close the side panel. I used Corsair vengeance ram because they were low profile.

However, if you're on a v3 and using a 120mm AIO then it shouldn't be an issue.
 
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It depends; if you're using the 92mm AIO then no, not if you want to close the side panel. I used Corsair vengeance ram because they were low profile.

However, if you're on a v3 and using a 120mm AIO then it shouldn't be an issue.

Unfortunately I'm using the v2. I had figured that would be the case but it never hurts to ask. Thank you for the reply!

Good luck on your v3 build!
 
- The HDPlex seems to only have one accessible screw mount. I may be missing it because I've already mounted my SSD to the front panel. 3M tape neatly solves this.
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You have to use the included 4x M3 7mm stan offs. Put the stand offs in the four holes at the front and mount the HdPlex on them :)
 
Alaberti, why don't you put the hdplex directly on the gpu side panel and use a thicker fan for the AIO ?
 
You have to use the included 4x M3 7mm stan offs. Put the stand offs in the four holes at the front and mount the HdPlex on them :)

Ohhhh that's what those are for! That's silly of me. Thank you for clarifying!

Alaberti, why don't you put the hdplex directly on the gpu side panel and use a thicker fan for the AIO ?

There's no space with my current gpu. Might work with a mini. Also the included PSU cable is very short, I'm not 100% certain it would reach. Sorry I didn't have a pic with the GPU already, could have sworn I did. See below!

Cable management is a little trickier so I have kind of a rat's nest atm. Anytime you can route a cable along the frame, it's been awesome though.

Unfortunately, no thermals or acoustics as what appears to be a SOC/vrm choke has detached itself from my motherboard, which now no longer POSTs (regardless of which PSU I use). Fans and LEDs turn on across the board, GPU seems to turn on but each fan starts and stops one at a time in intervals. AIO works. Replacement motherboard arrives by next Friday so I'll be over here crying in a corner until then.
 

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Dondan,

Are you planning a V4 of the case? Have you considered other colors?

Thank you.
 
PSA: Turns out building a PC in a hotel late at night, leaving parts everywhere and forgetting to clean up can lead to...misunderstandings about what you're actually doing.

I managed to electrical tape the choke back in place. You can't see it in the b-roll below, which makes me feel better.

Ran Prime 95 for 30 minutes, with my stock R7 1800X:
Temps: 33C idle / 74C load

Final(?) notes:
- I needed to turn XFR off on the CPU and undervolt the GPU because the dell power brick I'm using to supply my HDPlex with power cuts out around 300 watts. I'm having a custom 450w brick made to solve that problem. https://smallformfactor.net/forum/t...bto-psus-are-now-available-direct-order.1983/
- Mounting the HDPlex (properly) - you can only fit 3 standoffs if you have a SSD mounted in the front of the case, but so far I've had no issues from it - even with it sandwiched between the GPU and AIO exhaust. What a champ!
- For those who want to use the HDPlex PSU, I recommend a 65w CPU/APU and probably nothing bigger than a 1070/equivalent if you want the most plug and play experience. Otherwise, the power brick will be the limiting component.
- For those interested in the 120mm NZXT AIO, the 15mm noctua fan is more than sufficient and, to no one's great surprise, it's very quiet. Still, I'd recommend using Dan's guidance on his site for supported coolers, especially if a 25mm fan is what you want/need. https://www.dan-cases.com/dana4_spec.html

Hope this helps anyone interested in the exciting new options opened up by the v3. Looking forward to playing in dondan's next endeavor.

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* I guess the keyboard business is a thing now? HAVIT TKL HV-KB390L
 
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