DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

richiegore said:
Yea, are they ball bearing fans? They are usually like that, go too slow and they get rattley. I would have thought 30% would be quiet enough that you don't notice the noise after a couple of minutes? What rpm are they at at 30%?
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1140ish. The sound profile of the fan becomes apparent at around 20%/750rpm, which I guess is a testament to how quiet my PC would be otherwise
 
RedSawn said:
1140ish. The sound profile of the fan becomes apparent at around 20%/750rpm, which I guess is a testament to how quiet my PC would be otherwise
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1140rpm is a bit high alright, maybe try putting your case on the other side of your desk, gpu facing away, if you can.

I'd say a fan under the gpu/motherboard might be better at keeping the gpu from spinning up than adding an exhaust fan.
 
richiegore said:
1140rpm is a bit high alright, maybe try putting your case on the other side of your desk, gpu facing away, if you can.

I'd say a fan under the gpu/motherboard might be better at keeping the gpu from spinning up than adding an exhaust fan.
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That was the plan with the NF-A9 in the drive bay but it doesn't manage it on it's own above essentially idle workloads, that also suffers from noise issues above 40% RPM.
But I got two of those 80mm Akasa fans coming anyway.. I'll be able to have both. One above, one below.
 
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Sebbie said:
It dosent fit.
The tubing is not long enough to go “under” the RAM slots.
And if you try go “over” the side panel cant close.
If you want to WC your CPU, get some other RAMs or make a custom loop.
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Thanks. I have Corsair vengeance 3200MHz already in my case, but I've been eyeing the 3600MHz kit to get more out of my 1800X (my box is not used purely for gaming and has applications that enjoy the enhanced memory performance). I would have preferred the g skill kit but the Corsair ones will do.

Edit: my case is already assembled with the AIO already, previously posted a few pages back.
 
Hi guys,

This is my first post in a really long while. I'm happy to let you all know I'm receiving the last components for my a4 sfx v2 build.

I'm installing the the 545lc asetek aio with a noctua 92mm fan. I have the 8700k delidded and ready to go.

I haven't seen anyone post overclocking results with this setup because either:

A) No ones dumb enough to overclock inside of this case
B) The V2 hasn't gotten into enough hands of Kickstarters


You guys think there's a chance I would be able to overclock the 8700k to 4.9-5.0ghz at reasonable temps, delidded?

Thanks!!
 
ZTylerDurden said:
Hi guys,

This is my first post in a really long while. I'm happy to let you all know I'm receiving the last components for my a4 sfx v2 build.

I'm installing the the 545lc asetek aio with a noctua 92mm fan. I have the 8700k delidded and ready to go.

I haven't seen anyone post overclocking results with this setup because either:

A) No ones dumb enough to overclock inside of this case
B) The V2 hasn't gotten into enough hands of Kickstarters


You guys think there's a chance I would be able to overclock the 8700k to 4.9-5.0ghz at reasonable temps, delidded?

Thanks!!
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/
1aZfTysWc4dtJC33qkLCjLkhPnzVLtbCtjpxoZeT92ZA

Put the two together. You're welcome. (Can the forum stop turning it into a broken google document link?)
 
RedSawn said:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/
1aZfTysWc4dtJC33qkLCjLkhPnzVLtbCtjpxoZeT92ZA

Put the two together. You're welcome. (Can the forum stop turning it into a broken google document link?)
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Fantastic file m8 !

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Finished my build today in the v2. The l9i isn't here yet, so I used a unused stock intel cooler I had left over from my 4690k.
I didn't even bother changing the pre-installed 4 years old thermal paste that was on the heatsink, lol. So far my 8700k hasn't burnt up.. running 80c at around 40% avg usage in games and it's undervolted.
GPU running 69c at 35% fan speed, nvme m.2 w/o heatsink in the front is 50c in gaming loads, all in all very pleased with the temps.

Going to delid the cpu when the l9i arrives. Also, didn't realize you had to put the mobo in first then the psu in this case. Had a bad time trying to cram the mobo in before I gave up and removed the psu.
 
RedSawn said:
That was the plan with the NF-A9 in the drive bay but it doesn't manage it on it's own above essentially idle workloads, that also suffers from noise issues above 40% RPM.
But I got two of those 80mm Akasa fans coming anyway.. I'll be able to have both. One above, one below.
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Fans came today, but unfortunately it's not happening. I can't get enough tension to push the riser down on top to allow the fan to spin, I don't have a fan grill custom or otherwise to stop the riser getting into the blades in that case, and when it comes to the bottom the riser is rock solid. I don't know if I have to remove the motherboard or what to move it out of the way but that thing isn't budging, so I can't sneak a fan under there. Back to the drawing board.

Good news at least is Afterburner fan control is working somewhat well. I wear a good headset so I can't hear the bearing rattle anyway, but while playing SMITE last night I got the essential silence I deserve. No whirr every 5 seconds because the fan is going from 0 to 38% on a 55C binary fan 'curve'
 
RedSawn said:
Fans came today, but unfortunately it's not happening. I can't get enough tension to push the riser down on top to allow the fan to spin, I don't have a fan grill custom or otherwise to stop the riser getting into the blades in that case, and when it comes to the bottom the riser is rock solid. I don't know if I have to remove the motherboard or what to move it out of the way but that thing isn't budging, so I can't sneak a fan under there. Back to the drawing board.

Good news at least is Afterburner fan control is working somewhat well. I wear a good headset so I can't hear the bearing rattle anyway, but while playing SMITE last night I got the essential silence I deserve. No whirr every 5 seconds because the fan is going from 0 to 38% on a 55C binary fan 'curve'
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Have you tried ducting the lower noctua fan over to the gpu side with a bit of card?
 
richiegore said:
Have you tried ducting the lower noctua fan over to the gpu side with a bit of card?
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How would that work? My cable management's a bit shoddy, would be curious if that's another thing that won't quite fit, on the PSU side anyway
 
RedSawn said:
How would that work? My cable management's a bit shoddy, would be curious if that's another thing that won't quite fit, on the PSU side anyway
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Yea you'd need to get the the PSU cables pretty neat and then I was thinking of a piece of card at an angle. Did you have a good look at these pictures regarding the top fan? He doesn't have a fan guard but maybe he just got lucky with the riser.
 
Previous build was an aircooled delidded i7-7700K, which thermal and power throttled during a synthetic benchmark like Prime95. In games the CPU was in the high 90°C.

This build (from the screenshot) has watercooling (Asetek 545LC) and it doesn't thermal throttle during synthetic benchmarks - not even after an hour of XTU stresstesting. Yes, the temperatures are high, but only during these synthetic benchmarks. I only use the system for gaming, and after several hour game sessions the CPU is in the low 80° when playing Quake Champions, it's even in the low 70° when playing Doom (both on 3840x1400 highest quality image setting). My box currently runs at all default settings, with turbo-boost enabled and no AVX-offset, it's all "default".

So yes, temperatures are high during synthetic benchmarks, and even then it doesn't thermal throttle - that's the important part. I'm not running these synthetic benchmarks all day long. A synthetic benchmark like Prime95 is not a real world situation - at least for me, this box is only being used for games.

Although delidding would surely help with the temperatures, it's not required for my situation...
 
Well if C7 copper does what it was advertised it might be able to cool an i7. The only other question is when is it's released it's already March :(
 
jenosmaverick said:
Well if C7 copper does what it was advertised it might be able to cool an i7. The only other question is when is it's released it's already March :(
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I contacted Cryorig about that cooler some days ago, here is the reply:

"Hello Seb,


Thank you for contacting us and supporting us so much. The approx releasing time of the copper C7 will be around the end of March. Almost soon you could get it.


Best regards"
 
So i modded my V1 alike
Now i could´t figure efficient cable routings since it is not in my budget to use custom tubing&cables.
Then i was thinking about Dan´s Windowkit however i need about 0.6-1.1cm Clearance on the CPU side. I really like to fiddle around making my own however i am in need of the CAD file to get a custom 3D Print.
Ah and not to forget the 7700K performs like a charm on 5.1ghz (68-74C on load, since room temperature is affecting thus quite much). Next step would be obviously to eliminate the noise of my 1060mini (basicly just swiching to liquidmetal).
 

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Sebbie said:
I contacted Cryorig about that cooler some days ago, here is the reply:

"Hello Seb,


Thank you for contacting us and supporting us so much. The approx releasing time of the copper C7 will be around the end of March. Almost soon you could get it.


Best regards"
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Wow right in time for Zen+ and the remainder of Coffee lakes! I have a Strix gtx 1060 on the way as everything else is OP. I'll just replace it in a year or two when the prices are hopefully better.
 
Sebbie said:
Did some testing today with my 92mm fans i have in the bottom part of my case.
At the same speed approx. 1000RPM the old Gentle Typhoon is still the best option, highest airflow and lowest noise.
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OLD BUT GOLD ! (y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
 
D10S said:
OLD BUT GOLD ! (y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
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Idd, i wish i could get some PWM ones.
I tried optimize the airflow in the case and i remembered i had some old GT 92mm laying around.
After this test i switched from thos noisy Noctua one in an instant.



Maybe the Noctua NH-L9I + GT 92mm would be better than my classic cryorig C7...
I should test it :p
 
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dondan will the v3 come with built-in mounting for a 80mmx10mm fan below the mainboard? Ideally, the mounting points would raise the fan at least 1 mm from the bottom of the case to prevent the fan blades from scraping the bottom of the case when in pull configuration.

Edit: Awkward initial post was awkward.
 
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Anyone done international travel with this case? Do the x-ray scanning machine people give you any grief? Do you have to take the case out of the bag and place it on the belt?
I'm planning on travelling to singapore with my case, but I'm thinking of just taking my laptop instead to avoid any issues.
 
ok g said:
May I ask where you sent your custom designs to? I am researching where to send my design
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There are a couple companies in Belgium and the Netherlands that allow you to upload your DXF file and choose your material. For the first order I have used www.snijlab.nl, if the quality is good I’m planning to order more designs...

This is the first order:

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If that quality is good I might order these too:

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JohnRoamer said:
I have a question as well. Can you travel with mini pc by using AIO in it?
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An AIO is mostly a closed loop, without reservoir. I don’t think it’s an issue to travel with it...

There’s also a Kickstarter (and a thread here) for a Wallye carrying case...
 
So, I just got my built Dan A4 v2 back home, and I'm studying the result...

It looks to me as though there is a good 1cm, or 10mm, between the NH-L9i fan, and the inner face of the sidepanel.

So, to the users of the NH-L9i - why are we not replacing the thin NH-L9i fan, with a thicker or more powerful fan?

It seems we should be, because it seems we've got room for one!

It could even be another Noctua fan, if you wanted!
 
The fan that came with the L9i is already a beefed version of the fan you can buy seperately, this one goes upto 2200RPM, whereas the seperate one only goes to 2000RPM.
 
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