DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

Jspr said:
I would think extra a out having that ssd there.. That is where my case gets hot and the heat is trying to get out. You block the airflow?
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Once I can get the side panel on I'll do some testing to see if that is the case. If so I'll have to remove it.
 
Not too bad for a temporary solution until I find some M2 standoffs...
 

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Tossy2 said:
Yes, I'm using the M2 slot onder the mainboard (Gigabyte ITX). CPU is a Ryzen 1600x
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Well we're using different boards and cpus so maybe that's the issue? I know the 8700k gets a lot hotter than the Ryzens do. Still, a 30 degree difference is nuts. I'm going to move my drive to the top slot and do more testing to see if it keeps overheating. I might have a dud drive?
 
There’s absolutely no room for that between the motherboard & the centerplate of the case...
 
Hanakuso said:
Would this fit for people with M.2 on the back?

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1 works, two curves the motherboard, but all depends on where your mobo have this m2....
On asrock x299 itx, the m2 on downside is fine with cooler...the second on top...not so much!
 
D10S said:
1 works, two curves the motherboard, but all depends on where your mobo have this m2....
On asrock x299 itx, the m2 on downside is fine with cooler...the second on top...not so much!
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Where is the downside?
 
Question to all those who already received their V2. How long did it take before the case was delivered to you? The last update that I got from DHL tracking was my case left Germany last February 8. Tried to track it using the local post office's tracking system here only resulted in 'No data found.'
 
absolut_zero said:
Question to all those who already received their V2. How long did it take before the case was delivered to you? The last update that I got from DHL tracking was my case left Germany last February 8. Tried to track it using the local post office's tracking system here only resulted in 'No data found.'
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I'm the same, my last update was on Feb 8 as well.
 
absolut_zero said:
Question to all those who already received their V2. How long did it take before the case was delivered to you? The last update that I got from DHL tracking was my case left Germany last February 8. Tried to track it using the local post office's tracking system here only resulted in 'No data found.'
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SilverTurtle said:
I'm the same, my last update was on Feb 8 as well.
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Same here left Germany on Feb 8 and now it says it's prepared for custom clearing. I guess my case is in my country now. Where are you guys from?
 
In my opinion that means something is wrong. My tracking number was valid with USPS for quite a while even when DHL said it was in Germany. I'm in Maryland.
 
D10S said:
Aahhahahahha sorry m8!
I meant the bottom of motherboard!
We are all Lost In Translation❗️
This should explain better than my poor English! View attachment 54222
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I think my Asus z370i has the m2 near the top of the underside of the motherboard so I highly doubt the heatsink will work. I'll let everyone know tonight either way.
 
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PC-HAngover said:
I think my Asus z370i has the m2 near the top of the underside of the motherboard so I highly doubt the heatsink will work. I'll let everyone know tonight either way.
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Be careful, you'll see that your motherboard will be curved while you try to screw it,
and even if you can (I screwed it with both), it is not convenient to leave the motherboard so curved ...
So, solution 1: find a heatsink that is less big than the EK
Solution 2: a reiser m2.
 
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If your CPU cooler has enough clearance you can try ... I personally like to use the backplate, I don't like the look of all the connections at the back with the open space...
 
duke00 said:
D10S simple dont use the i/o Shield and use distance pices to get more space betwen the mainboard and the riser
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Yes this was the third solution,
but I immediately discarded it because my I/O panel must remain in place,
but it is correct, for those who want to sacrifice the I/O panel, it will work at 100% (y)

(solution 4: ...dremmel :whistle:)
 
Woxys said:
dondan any news about those "new", better grip case feet, where and when we can buy them? I'm searching for something better for a while but i can't find anything.

Also an update on my last post, testing done. I was really impressed by the results 3-5°C cooler on idle and 8-10°C load with the fan duct vs without. I don't know why it's cooler with the 3D printed duct vs the paper one, maybe because it's a bit larger and covers >80% of the motherboard?
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you selling these?
 
Okay I spent several hours tonight trying different things. First of all. The EK heatsink on an NVME drive DOES NOT fit on the underside m.2 slot on an Asus z370-i motherboard.

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It does however fit on the front side when you add the m2 standoff to the other standoff:

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In other news I've basically given up getting the AIO to fit with my 1080 Ti FTW3. There is just no room to route cables. The custom corsair cables I ordered are REALLY long. I'm going to do some temperature testing tonight on the CPU and put an air cooler on it tomorrow to see if the delta is worth it to try again. I may have to go with a ghost S1 or something.

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PC-HAngover said:
Okay I spent several hours tonight trying different things. First of all. The EK heatsink on an NVME drive DOES NOT fit on the underside m.2 slot on an Asus z370-i motherboard.

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It does however fit on the front side when you add the m2 standoff to the other standoff:

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In other news I've basically given up getting the AIO to fit with my 1080 Ti FTW3. There is just no room to route cables. The custom corsair cables I ordered are REALLY long. I'm going to do some temperature testing tonight on the CPU and put an air cooler on it tomorrow to see if the delta is worth it to try again. I may have to go with a ghost S1 or something.

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I agree that the cables are long relative to the DAN A4. In CeresPK's build a few pages back (and mine that was inspired by it) you will see that we both chose to leave the drive tray in. I used the drive tray for liberal cable routing opportunity. I posted pics of my front and back using the Corsair Premium SF cable kit. You definitely need to find a good place to route them. If you want a straight shot I think a custom CableMods order (custom ordered down to 150mm) is best. (Here is a build from earlier in this thread which illustrates what a well-calibrated CableMods order looks like.)
 
nethead said:
I agree that the cables are long relative to the DAN A4. In CeresPK's build a few pages back (and mine that was inspired by it) you will see that we both chose to leave the drive tray in. I used the drive tray for liberal cable routing opportunity. I posted pics of my front and back using the Corsair Premium SF cable kit. You definitely need to find a good place to route them. If you want a straight shot I think a custom CableMods order (custom ordered down to 150mm) is best. (Here is a build from earlier in this thread which illustrates what a well-calibrated CableMods order looks like.)
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I've done the impossible. My everest is conquered! I decided to give it another go before bed since who needs sleep anyway. It took two more tries and I had to take basically every screw out of the frame twice to get my gpu to fit twice while routing the PSU cables. So to summarize.
  • The Asetek AIO will fit with an EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 but there is VERY little room.
    • Looks like everyone else with blower style GPUs have a lot more room to work with.
  • EVERYTHING has to line up perfectly.
  • I used the custom Corsair cables.
  • I used a 92 mm fan guard to prevent the fan from being jammed.
  • All of my power cables were pushed to the GPU side. I forced the SATA power and 2x PCIE power to the front side of the case and I routed the ATX and CPU power to the back and fanned the cables out as flat as I could. If that pile was too high the GPU would be too high and I couldn't close the top.
  • I routed the CPU power and ATX power underneath the motherboard from the GPU compartment. This required removing the motherboard to fit the CPU power cord under there.
  • Since the PCIE power cables were so long I had to bunch them up and pull through the opening to the CPU area from the power supply area. They are tucked between my memory sticks and the power supply.
  • I routed the power extension cable through the front of the case, up the left side, and across the GPU.
  • I routed SATA power through the front of the case so I could power the SATA drive in the front and the SATA drive I tucked on top of the pcie riser for now for testing.
  • I used the Silverstone ultrathin SATA cable and this really helped for the front drive.
  • I ended up just bunching up all the remaining ATX and CPU power cables under the GPU as there wasn't anything I could really do with it.
  • I pushed the Asetek AIO tubes on top of each other so they could be jammed between the PSU and the fan which left plenty of room for the side panel to close.
  • I added a 40mm fan with a bread tie (temporarily) to assist cooling my nvme drive since there is no air flow.
  • I need to check VRM temps.
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I was thinking...theoretically: an air system with effecient airflow inside case would better perform than an AIO system with bad airflow circulation?
So, a rig with 8700k and XX aircooler+YY fan and a good cable rooting is less/equal or more effcient than a rig with an asetek aio and a stressed compact wall of cable everywhere?
I'm courious and would be fine to see some "numbers" from you guys, something like:

cpu: 8700k XXXGHz - cooler: XXX + YYY FAN - cable: ZZZ - additional fan: HHH
idle temps: PPP - load temps: BBB
note: blablabla...

With some numbers probably all we can understand what is worth doing and what is not?

(ah, and if anyone else is trying to put an X299 in here, please stand up/please stand up/please stand up/ nanananana...)
 
D10S said:
I was thinking...theoretically: an air system with effecient airflow inside case would better perform than an AIO system with bad airflow circulation?
So, a rig with 8700k and XX aircooler+YY fan and a good cable rooting is less/equal or more effcient than a rig with an asetek aio and a stressed compact wall of cable everywhere?
I'm courious and would be fine to see some "numbers" from you guys, something like:

cpu: 8700k XXXGHz - cooler: XXX + YYY FAN - cable: ZZZ - additional fan: HHH
idle temps: PPP - load temps: BBB
note: blablabla...

With some numbers probably all we can understand what is worth doing and what is not?

(ah, and if anyone else is trying to put an X299 in here, please stand up/please stand up/please stand up/ nanananana...)
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Yeah I think some went with the air cooled build with a a couple of fans (92mm and 40mm) already. Would love to see a comparison with aio builds :)
 
PC-HAngover said:
Got my V2 yesterday and moved my hardware into it. I'm having a hell of a time fitting the AIO and EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 in there. I can't close the CPU side panel because the mess of wires from the PSU have nowhere to go, specifically the huge ATX cable. There is no void space when the AIO is installed. Any tips on routing these? Are custom cables the answer?
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I was having the same issue. Like sldr I picked up the Corsair cables eventually (which I'll be posting about later today), but I was also using the stock cables successfully with a 92mm fan grill installed over the noctua fan, then I routed the 2 PCI-E cables up the channel between the PSU and the motherboard, the 24-pin across the noctua and stuffing whatever excess into the space between the radiator and the front ssd panel, etc etc. Twisty ties or zip ties help a bit. You can see some layouts from prevous posts of mine and others, but it's fairly simple to manage all the cables except the 24-pin which requires a little more...attention than the others in my experience.

Edit: I'm late, I see you already found a solution!
 
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Received the case yesterday and built last night. Set up everything else today. Gotta say, I'm impressed (and relieved) at the temperatures I am getting with an i5 8400 and Strix 1080. Absolutely love the case.
 
What's the best cooler currently available for the Dan A4 with a delidded 7700k running at stock temps on a Z270i mobo? I have a Cryorig C7 but not really too happy about temps or noise with the current setup while it has the side panel on.
 
I put my L9i in and I love it. It might not be the "best" cooler, but it is very simple to install, easily available, cheap, pretty much silent. it gets you 80% of the way there with minimal effort, so it was the preferred choice for me.
 
Disclaimer: Usual apology for non-ideal camera or lighting conditions.

This is the upgrade from my previous Maximus VII Impact build here.

Specs:
Asus ROG Strix B350i Gaming
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0
Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz @ 32 GB
Samsung 950 Pro 512 GB
Samsung 960 Evo 1 TB
Samsun 850 Evo 500 GB
Corsair SF600 PSU
Asetek 545LC AIO CPU Cooler
Noctua A9x14 92mm Fan
Reevan Vanxie 80x10mm fan

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Below are the temps I've gotten on core components. While gaming is not all I do with this rig, it is the most thermally demanding activity even if the device in question is not directly involved in gaming. All temps are reported from HWiNFO after an hour of using it normally.

CPU
Idle temps: 44 C~
Gaming temps: 50-75 C

GPU
Idle: 51 C
Gaming: 75 C

Drives
950 (back M.2 slot, system drive)
Idle: 62 C
Gaming: 73 C

960 (front M.2, virtual machine drive)
Idle: 62 C
Gaming: 74 C
Note: This drive reports 2 temperature sets, so I included the set that was higher.

850 (front panel ssd, game storage)
Idle: 34 C
Gaming: 40 C

Motherboard
Note: This board does not include VRM sensors for some reason, so I am reporting the highest reported temp.
Idle: 60 C
Gaming: 74 C

All temps are with the 80mm fan off. It makes an unbelievable amount of noise even on a silent curve and I haven't determined if it's turbulence or a bad fan. Also, I plan to reroute the 24pin cable into the GPU area as I've seen in other builds as it will make closing the side panel a little easier (everything closes but there is a small amount of pressure on the panel from the cabling). Haven't set up the RGB effects the way I want so I don't have any pics of it lit up, but the lighting zones are pretty tastefully placed.

Also, I have some concerns about the AIO tubes being right over the exhaust fan; is it possible that the water will start heating up from the exhaust, creating a feedback loop?
 
Woah! A 1800x in there and still decent temps compared to a 8700.I'll be waiting for the zen+ before deciding on grabbing either the zen+ or an i5 8500 then plug in the upcoming c7 copper aswell. If not for the ridiculous ram and gpu prices April could have been an awesome time to build a pc :(
 
t-g-l-h- said:
Received the case yesterday and built last night. Set up everything else today. Gotta say, I'm impressed (and relieved) at the temperatures I am getting with an i5 8400 and Strix 1080. Absolutely love the case.
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Which cooler? How are your temps? I really think the 8400 is the chip to get if you want to go intel.
 
Here are my temps after 8 hours of general usage and gaming:

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Here are my temps after 17 hours of mining (ZCL, 60% GPU power, +100 core, +500 mem)

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I can't seem to find any VRM temps. I also need to replace the little 40mm fan pointing at my NVME drive because that thing is LOUD!
 
Cheers to dondan for making this fantastic case. No other case I've worked in, even the ncase, felt so rewarding to get everything "just right." Best puzzle box I ever bought, and looking forward to whatever the next tiny case is.
 
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Hi,
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My case arrived and finished it to 90% :D

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/705dpuqgb8uhizw/AABdljoCIhjhpCwfriMi3XXAa?dl=0

Here is a Pic and the rest is in SPOILER ABOVE



Configuration:

8700K delided [email protected]
gigabyte 1080ti@2ghz 1.05
16gb 3000 spectrix Adata XPG
Alphacool monsta 180mm
Silverstone Airpenetrator & Phoby G-silent 18
AC Kryos Next Vision
Silent loop (pump)
XSPC Razer neo
Corsair SF 600
Crucial 525gb m2 sata



Temps are to awesome ^^
 
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