DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

Still enjoying my Dan A4-SFX v1 a lot, and I can't wait for v2!

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Are there, or have there been any overheating issues with M.2 NVME SSD's on the the back side of boards with this case??
 
Bladestorm said:
Are there, or have there been any overheating issues with M.2 NVME SSD's on the the back side of boards with this case??
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Yes, I had the overheating issues too. There is basically no air flow, so I didn´t use it in the end.


galletabah said:
i have problemas with 1080ti FE and asus z270i.
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Can you be more specific?


I have also managed to install 4x 40mm noctua fan in the case.
If you are interested, I can post a pictures.
 
mirgus said:
Bitspower fan adapter ;) i used a dremel on it



It is possible...Seems u are just buying the wrong Hardware without research

In my silent Mode,my 1230v3 is in pubg @70 degrees with the nh-l9i and the Fan @1200rpm! Msi 1070 Quick Silver at 63-65 degrees and 1000-1100 RPM.
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About that Bitspower adapter, how tall is it? My upcoming case has clearance of 44mm so with the Nocuta being 37mm I only have 7mm to play with.
 
Bladestorm said:
I wonder if the top mounted with heatsink M.2 boards like what Asus offers would be ok?
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I have asus z270i and i have m.2 ssd 960pro in front slot. Temps never went above 80°C (in benchmark) with added heatsinks:
In idle I have about 40°C.

RASPBERRY Pi RB-Heatsink

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But I have also 2 noctua fans above taking the heat out of the case, so it makes a difference too.
 
SSuk said:
I have asus z270i and i have m.2 ssd 960pro in front slot. Temps never went above 80°C (in benchmark) with added heatsinks:
In idle I have about 40°C.

RASPBERRY Pi RB-Heatsink

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But I have also 2 noctua fans above taking the heat out of the case, so it makes a difference too.
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80° trottling

SSuk said:
Yes, I had the overheating issues too. There is basically no air flow, so I didn´t use it in the end.


Can you be more specific?


I have also managed to install 4x 40mm noctua fan in the case.
If you are interested, I can post a pictures.
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I have problems with temps in the back of the motherboar, more than 85°. In the front without heatsinks around 68-70°
 
galletabah said:
80° trottling


I have problems with temps in the back of the motherboar, more than 85°. In the front without heatsinks around 68-70°
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I just made another test:

Crystaldiscmark 5
9 cycles, 8 GiB test size
Max temp was 54°C

 
Trying to decide between Asrock Fatal1ty and the Asus Z370I. Which would be best in this case? I do have a Samsung 960 EVO 1TB and plan on doing a slight overclock on the 8700K.
 
Bahn Yuki said:
Trying to decide between Asrock Fatal1ty and the Asus Z370I. Which would be best in this case? I do have a Samsung 960 EVO 1TB and plan on doing a slight overclock on the 8700K.
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I would go for Asus z370i - it has m.2 slot on front = better cooling for ssd (see my tested temp results above).
As galletabah mentioned in posts above, he has overheating issues with m.2 ssd on back. Asrock Fatal1ty has its m.2 slot on back. Thats the reason why to choose asus imho.
 
Ok, just purchased the Asus Z370I from Amazon. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm going to miss the HDMI 2.0 and TB 3.0, but the Asus was my second choice.
 
Now that the results are in, and the 8700K runs bit hotter than the 7700K at load, how will this impact SFF cases with current cooling options?
 
From my favorite hardware review side in Germany they said the 8700K is easier to cool. With the same heatsink 13°C less temperatures. But as you know every sample is different maybe the 8700K sample was a very cool one or the old 7700K a very hot one.

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Or maybe the TIM is better. I assume we won’t be able to run the 8700k with more than 1,15V without overheating. Therefore we are very limited when it comes to overclocking. Do you think 4,4 Ghz on all cores is a realistic value?
 
Shaav said:
Or maybe the TIM is better. I assume we won’t be able to run the 8700k with more than 1,15V without overheating. Therefore we are very limited when it comes to overclocking. Do you think 4,4 Ghz on all cores is a realistic value?
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I'd be happy with 4.3Ghz(all core turbo) in the Dan case and cooling.
 
dondan said:
From my favorite hardware review side in Germany they said the 8700K is easier to cool. With the same heatsink 13°C less temperatures. But as you know every sample is different maybe the 8700K sample was a very cool one or the old 7700K a very hot one.
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This will strongly depend on the workload. If you hit it with Prime it will be much harder to cool. If you hit it with a game it might be easier to cool (depends on the game and performance will vary accordingly).
 
4.2 - 4.3GHz Intel and 3.7GHz for AMD seems to be the sweet spot for Dan builds. The Turbo boost overclocks for the i7 8700K is fairly aggressive as it goes up to 1.27V or so. I would not go over 1.18V on a Dan build personally for longevity. i7 8700K is great for Ivy Bridge and Sandybridge owners. For Haswell and above and Ryzen 1600/1700, I would not upgrade personally. I am willing to wait for at least Zen+ and if I am really patient, I would wait for Zen 2 and Icelake.

If the rumors stay true, an Intel 8-core mainstream cpu sounds awesome! Then again, I will be curious if the Z390 will be for an 8-core coffee lake or 8-core icelake. I get the feeling that an 8core coffee lake makes the most sense.
 
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Well once V2 arrives in a couple of months the battle would be Zen+ and Coffee lake. It's interesting now that Asus finally will release it's am4 mitx lineup!!
 
New to this forum, but i look so Much forward to receiving my dancase that i have checked this thread for months, and you guys rules!

I have some questions i Hope some of you can Help me with :)

Is it right that the Asus 1060 strix rog, fits in the case Even when its 298mm? And would it be a good match in terms og low noise and cooling?

I have Also looked at the New coffe lake chips, and i see the i7 8700 is rated at 65 tdp, and the i7 8700k is rated at 95 tdp. Would the none k, be a better match cus it runs cooler, or does the 95 tdp for the k versions just mean that how Much heat it can generate if its max overclocked?
 
Xqzme said:
I have Also looked at the New coffe lake chips, and i see the i7 8700 is rated at 65 tdp, and the i7 8700k is rated at 95 tdp. Would the non k, be a better match cus it runs cooler, or does the 95 tdp for the k versions just mean that how Much heat it can generate if its max overclocked?
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the non-k is a better match for this case. A4-SFX only supports small heatsinks. 8700k will work, but it will throttle more. you can save money and buy a 8700 if you want.

we must test this to make sure, but I believe a 8700 will perform the same as 8700k when using small heatsinks. the only way the 8700k can be faster than 8700 is if the fan runs faster and more noisy...

in the end, ANYTHING will WORK, because modern CPUs down-clock automatically for safety when overheating. I personally believe 8700 (or 8700k down-clocked like 8700) is more appropriate because it is more energy efficient.
 
Hi guys, I'm new. I have a A4-SFX but I'm using is as a low power media server. Anyone tried the Noctua NH-L9x65 cooler without the fan? It's 51mm without the fan, 3mm too high. Does anyone have any experiences with lowering this cooler by 3mm? Preferably by bending the heatpipes and not cutting the fins.
 
Man said:
Hi guys, I'm new. I have a A4-SFX but I'm using is as a low power media server. Anyone tried the Noctua NH-L9x65 cooler without the fan? It's 51mm without the fan, 3mm too high. Does anyone have any experiences with lowering this cooler by 3mm? Preferably by bending the heatpipes and not cutting the fins.
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You can also try using shorter motherboard standoffs. Some of the guys using the V1 case went with 4mm (I think motherboard standoffs) which saved another 3mm or so for the cooler height. But maybe the V2 has fixed standoffs that you cant remove now?
 
Won't using lower standoffs mess up the alignment between the motherboard/case? I think I'll just take the easy route and go for the Phanteks PH-TC12LS (47mm wo fan) or Prolimatech Samuel 17 (45mm wo fan) ...or Thermalright AXP-100 @44mm
 
Man said:
Won't using lower standoffs mess up the alignment between the motherboard/case? I think I'll just take the easy route and go for the Phanteks PH-TC12LS (47mm wo fan) or Prolimatech Samuel 17 (45mm wo fan) ...or Thermalright AXP-100 @44mm
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It just messes up alignment with the IO plate, but a lot of us left that off for better temperatures anyway.
 
bAMtan2 said:
the non-k is a better match for this case. A4-SFX only supports small heatsinks. 8700k will work, but it will throttle more. you can save money and buy a 8700 if you want.

we must test this to make sure, but I believe a 8700 will perform the same as 8700k when using small heatsinks. the only way the 8700k can be faster than 8700 is if the fan runs faster and more noisy...

in the end, ANYTHING will WORK, because modern CPUs down-clock automatically for safety when overheating. I personally believe 8700 (or 8700k down-clocked like 8700) is more appropriate because it is more energy efficient.
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I would still say always go the the K over the non-K. Where I live, they are the same price, og within 1-2%, and then undervolt it, so it will match in heat-output but be more powerfull.
 
Jspr said:
I would still say always go the the K over the non-K. Where I live, they are the same price, og within 1-2%, and then undervolt it, so it will match in heat-output but be more powerfull.
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There is a big difference here in the US, $379 vs $314.
 
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OmenemO said:
It just messes up alignment with the IO plate, but a lot of us left that off for better temperatures anyway.
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Thanks. I think I'll just go with the the standard standoff. I'd like to keep the look as "pretty" as possible. TBH even the stock cooler without a fan will probably suffice. It's only for music playback, and running Linux without a GUI. Besides, when I upgrade the motherboard in the future I'll probably need to use the standard standoffs or there won't be any room for back mounted M.2 SSDs. (not a big deal in itself but then the cooler won't fit)
 
bAMtan2 said:
the non-k is a better match for this case. A4-SFX only supports small heatsinks. 8700k will work, but it will throttle more. you can save money and buy a 8700 if you want.
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Can you undervolt a non -K? I've managed to undervolt mine by 0.04V and after a delid + LP53+A9x14 am running 70°C during prime 95 Benchmarks @ 4.5ghz. If you can't undervolt a non K processor then I don't think they'll end up being a better choice for thermals.
 
^ You should have turned your heatsink 90 degrees, fins in vertical orientation, so air can more easily flow upwards. It's also better for heatpipe performance. Which heatsink is that anyway?
 
theGryphon said:
^ You should have turned your heatsink 90 degrees, fins in vertical orientation, so air can more easily flow upwards. It's also better for heatpipe performance. Which heatsink is that anyway?
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