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DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world
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galletabah
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I took like 12-14H to make 24 pin white sleeved.
If you dont sleev and only make the cables, 3-4h probably
FinBuilder
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I once did that kind of cable, that I think you mean. I hadn't made any cables before. Just find enough info before you start and you can do it yourself. Although you might get better quality if you buy cables from somewhere. But I'm satisfied with the quality that I managed to get with my own cables. And now I can say that I have made my own cables.
Here is couple poor quality pictures of my ATX24 cable. (and EPS8)
Every "pair" was same length, and every pair was shortened evenly. Don't remember how much did I shortened every pair. I think I measured the shortest and the longest length and then divided the difference even with the last pairs...
JackGLemmon
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The Wallye Duffle is much larger then the Dan A4-SFX. The Tenba BYOB 13 is the right size, and is about half the volume of the Wallye.
https://www.amazon.com/Tenba-636-224-BYOB-13-Camera/dp/B00KT7G9UY
The Lowepro Event Messanger 250 is also the right size if you cut out the tablet pocket. This bag has doubled in price since many of us bought it last year, and is out of stock on Lowepro.com
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0077B403S/
Is that drop-shipping from Taiwan or is that coming from Germany so it can be blessed, re-boxed, VAT'ed, and taxed?
I doubt that would be economical, as that would require 3 shipments (side panels, frame, PCIe riser).
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Under declaring wont work well, it's going to cause whichever countries customs department to stop the package in it's track to confirm the value.
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If you are student you can get any autodesk CAD software. Otherwise I would say get a free trial from autodesk or use sketchup.
The USB slot can still be used if you heavily modify the cable.
However, the AIO works well with Dan's X99 board because of the ram slot locations.
On z270 boards, it requires the hoses to cross over the ram. If you have high profile ram, it will not work. Also, if you have RGB ram, prepare to have hoses cross over them.
The cooler works and the v1 case can be easily modified to work with it.
The real pain is the cable management. Again, Dan's x99 board has its 24pin in a different location. 24pin location on z270 Is a nightmare with stock cables. (Corsair SF600)
I would not get too excited about the AIO cooler at this point. We need lower profile cables for our power supplies right off the bat.
One more thing...
If you have an EVGA 1080ti FTW 3 and try to use this cooler you have to pop open the top RGB strip so that the top clip of the case can remain on an working. (Case snaps into this)
The bottom two back clips must be removed (but can be replaced if you decide not to use the AIO) to allow the radiator to sit flush. Using the two bottom screws on the case would eliminate issues caused by removing these clips.
Let me know if you have any questions
Seems like the dan cooler will be the best bet if the only compromise is VLP ram. I want a nice easy install, so i'm going SC2 and most likely a dan cooler.
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Julio Espinosa
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Mexico City.
Could you help me?
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I have contacted Cablemod about the quality issues. Hopefully will hear something back in the next few days. Confident they will sort this out as from other posts in this forum, there is clearly a problem we are all experiencing when purchasing cables from them.
Dondan installed the Asetek AIO with the ASRock X99 ITX board, which has the RAM along the edge of the board closest to the bottom. This allows for a gap between the RAM and the PSU to run the hoses. The point made by maven1975 is that there may not be enough space for the hoses if the RAM is in the more typical place along the front edge of the board.
I just checked out the x299e-itx.
It has dang riser cards on both sides of the CPU socket! Hopefully it can be used without these if desired. The one in question houses a m.2 and SATA3 connectors.
This positioning may also pose an issue depending on final spec height.
It has dang riser cards on both sides of the CPU socket! Hopefully it can be used without these if desired. The one in question houses a m.2 and SATA3 connectors.
This positioning may also pose an issue depending on final spec height.
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This is exactly what I was speaking about ^
It's not completely impossible....
It can be done with the z270 Strix and Trident RGB setup, but the hoses block a good portion of the RGB lighting.
A 52mm hole saw and 60mm fan grill is all you need to modify the case. This leaves all the other mounting holes intact and usable. If you wanted to use a larger drill bit to punch holes in the bottom, it would give the same effect as Dan's v2.
The main problem is still ram height, and power supply cables. Would be killer to find a low profile 24pin cable for the sf600. This cable poses the largest problem when trying to keep it away from the Noctua fan on the AIO radiator.
I'm devastated. On tuesday I had finally gotten hold of all my parts (waiting the longest for the Biostar X370GTN) and the Cryorig C7 AM4 bracket. I put all the components in the case and was so happy. But... I only ran the system quickly as a test without the side panels on. Yesterday when I put them on I realized the Sapphire Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ is a few millimeters too thick. When I started the PC I heard the fans scratching against the side panel. I have contacted the retailer so that I can send the card back and get a refund. The problem is there suddenly is a shortage of RX 580s and 570s here in Sweden (But not last week!). Might just go and grab a RX 480 (even though it's a cooler that hasn't really gotten the best reviews, I just want a working rig! )
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dondan
Uhmm will a Gigabyte Aorus 1060 fit in the case? Really love the Evga but I just don't like it's aesthetics. Thanks
Uhmm will a Gigabyte Aorus 1060 fit in the case? Really love the Evga but I just don't like it's aesthetics. Thanks
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I'm devastated. On tuesday I had finally gotten hold of all my parts (waiting the longest for the Biostar X370GTN) and the Cryorig C7 AM4 bracket. I put all the components in the case and was so happy. But... I only ran the system quickly as a test without the side panels on. Yesterday when I put them on I realized the Sapphire Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ is a few millimeters too thick. When I started the PC I heard the fans scratching against the side panel. I have contacted the retailer so that I can send the card back and get a refund. The problem is there suddenly is a shortage of RX 580s and 570s here in Sweden (But not last week!). Might just go and grab a RX 480 (even though it's a cooler that hasn't really gotten the best reviews, I just want a working rig!
I have the RX570 Nitro+ 8GB and its working fine. I was under the impression that it is the same cooler as with the 580. Maybe you can check your installation? I had some trouble to screw the GPU to the case at the back but after some time I managed to get it right.
Looks like Silverstone have developed flexible PCI-E extenders that are rated for long workloads, and might be cheaper than 3M's https://smallformfactor.net/news/silverstone-cases-computex-2017-pio-micro-stx
Wow, really? While looking at Prisjakt (The swedish PriceSpy site) it says that the RX 580 Nitro+ is 43mm (2,2 slots) thick (or wide I guess) and that the RX 570 Nitro+ is the same. But looking at for example pricespy.co.nz it says that RX 580 Nitro+ is 2,2 slots (without any measurement) while the RX 570 Nitro+ is 2 slots.
I had to google for a review and found some "Product photos" of the RX 570 Nitro+ in the Guru3D review and they sure look the same. The cooler shroud stands out a few millimeters more than the GPU bracket. I have to remount the GPU tonight and see if I can manage to get it to work after all. Now you really have gotten my hopes up, thanks!
dondan
I know you're busy, but it would be great to get a simple yes or no on the Power button situation.
Is it completely the same from V1? asking because of the review by LinusTechTips saying it's kind of wobbly without tactile feedback.
Thanks!
(backer#600ish )
I know you're busy, but it would be great to get a simple yes or no on the Power button situation.
Is it completely the same from V1? asking because of the review by LinusTechTips saying it's kind of wobbly without tactile feedback.
Thanks!
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ManaNeko
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dondan
I know you're busy, but it would be great to get a simple yes or no on the Power button situation.
Is it completely the same from V1? asking because of the review by LinusTechTips saying it's kind of wobbly without tactile feedback.
Thanks!
(backer#600ish
cowsgomoo2
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Just use the hdd bay
Please give me the thumbs-up that even though the bottom bay is 15mm high, you had no intention of supporting a 15mm drive at the bottom in the first place, because there's no way to screw it in?
cowsgomoo2
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Maybe he doesnt like you? LOL jk. I found some luck when i tried pushing discussion on adding fan support below the psu stating there was room for a 92mm fan, and he said it was something he was thinking of too.
dondan just likes to ignore me.
But i think now is definitely too late when he's already kickstarted the v.2 project.
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I agree with the hard drive mount could have improved 15mm drive compatability.
Currently you have to mount the 15mm drive upside down if you put it in the bottom area. The drive pretty much touches the bottom of the case so the isolation from the rubber mounts doesn't work. I think it should be a couple of mm taller. I think this could be done for V2 maybe?
If the top hard drive is fitted in addition to the 15mm lower drive it faces the opposite direction so you need straight power and sata connectors, the ones like the Corsair power cables clash with each other if the drives are mounted in opposite orientations. These is a cabling issue of course but I think most power cables are like this?
Even if you could mount the 15mm drive the normal way up in the lower section it needs to allow for the thickness of the power connector too, so it would require further increased clearance above that needed if the 15mm drive is mounted upside down.
Personally I will mount my 15mm drive on top and a slimmer drive in the normal orientation underneath so I am ok for now.
If I need mount two 15mm drives in the future I will make a bracket. I think a split design which allows two drives to be mounted upside down is the best option requiring the least amount of vertical height.
I would have said this earlier when Dan was taking suggestions but I only built my case last week when I got my biostar motherboard. Maybe this could be a v3 improvement if Dan thinks it is a good idea. If you are interested Dan I will share my design with you but I'm sure you can figure out what I am talking about yourself
Loving the case it is so compact, combined with my Ryzen 1700 it's just an amazing little workstation/gaming rig. Congratulations on your success!
Currently you have to mount the 15mm drive upside down if you put it in the bottom area. The drive pretty much touches the bottom of the case so the isolation from the rubber mounts doesn't work. I think it should be a couple of mm taller. I think this could be done for V2 maybe?
If the top hard drive is fitted in addition to the 15mm lower drive it faces the opposite direction so you need straight power and sata connectors, the ones like the Corsair power cables clash with each other if the drives are mounted in opposite orientations. These is a cabling issue of course but I think most power cables are like this?
Even if you could mount the 15mm drive the normal way up in the lower section it needs to allow for the thickness of the power connector too, so it would require further increased clearance above that needed if the 15mm drive is mounted upside down.
Personally I will mount my 15mm drive on top and a slimmer drive in the normal orientation underneath so I am ok for now.
If I need mount two 15mm drives in the future I will make a bracket. I think a split design which allows two drives to be mounted upside down is the best option requiring the least amount of vertical height.
I would have said this earlier when Dan was taking suggestions but I only built my case last week when I got my biostar motherboard. Maybe this could be a v3 improvement if Dan thinks it is a good idea. If you are interested Dan I will share my design with you but I'm sure you can figure out what I am talking about yourself
Loving the case it is so compact, combined with my Ryzen 1700 it's just an amazing little workstation/gaming rig. Congratulations on your success!
dondan
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TinySeth No changes to the power button. I think the most customers are fine with it.
cowsgomoo2 The drive bay was designed to fit 15mm drives also in the buttom location. Do you have a picture for me so I can see why it not fit? Plz give me also the name of the hdd you use.
cowsgomoo2 The drive bay was designed to fit 15mm drives also in the buttom location. Do you have a picture for me so I can see why it not fit? Plz give me also the name of the hdd you use.
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richiegore
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You have to mount it upside down, the rubber feet add another ~1mm to the height and it just fits, however, the drive does touch the bottom of the case as I mentioned in my extremely long post
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I removed my drive from a backup plus, no Warranty but cheaper I did it pretty nearly, I reckon I could reassemble it and RMA it, there was no warranty seal or anything but it is hard not to damage the cover so I think they rely on that to determine if it has been opened.
I did it pretty nearly, I reckon I could reassemble it and RMA it, there was no warranty seal or anything but it is hard not to damage the cover so I think they rely on that to determine if it has been opened.Attachments
Pantera_666
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He wont listen, i did ask for this before... /facepalm/