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DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

Sebbie said:
I am personal gonna make a custom loop with the fractal one, the reason for that is the fittings are placed on the sides of the block instead ontop like on the bequite one , it will prob cause some clearance issue with the side panel :)
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I want to try that, but I dont know what radiator choose
 
galletabah said:
I want to try that, but I dont know what radiator choose
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I dont know the spec for the Asetek one but i have both teh Alphacool 92mm (45mm thick) and Black ice nemesis 92mm (54mm thick) radiator in my cabinet tho i think the asetek is thinner and those pic dondan have showed us with the AIO there are not much space at the bottom there.
 
probably 30mm its posible but 45mm...
We can raise up the gpu a little to fit a bigger rad.
 
Hey, everyone! I think this might be the first Ryzen build in the case. I am either getting Vega, or maybe an RX 580, but currently am using my Sapphire 7970. I think it's a 2.5 slot card, because the fan shroud was bumping up against the case and I had to cut a bit off in order to seat the card in the riser. For whatever reason, the mounting holes for the card would not fully align with the case so I zip tied it down. Point being, it was a bit tricky to get the card in and I can't even put on the side panel due to it being a 2.5 slot card. On the other side, I am using the stock cooler which is way too tall so I can't put the other side panel on either. (n) I have a Noctua NH-L9a on the way, and they tell me their AM4 bracket for it is about to be released so hopefully in a few weeks I can put the CPU side's panel on. (y)

The build album can be found here.

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Deepcoiler said:
Hey, everyone! I think this might be the first Ryzen build in the case. I am either getting Vega, or maybe an RX 580, but currently am using my Sapphire 7970. I think it's a 2.5 slot card, because the fan shroud was bumping up against the case and I had to cut a bit off in order to seat the card in the riser. For whatever reason, the mounting holes for the card would not fully align with the case so I zip tied it down. Point being, it was a bit tricky to get the card in and I can't even put on the side panel due to it being a 2.5 slot card. On the other side, I am using the stock cooler which is way too tall so I can't put the other side panel on either. (n) I have a Noctua NH-L9a on the way, and they tell me their AM4 bracket for it is about to be released so hopefully in a few weeks I can put the CPU side's panel on. (y)

The build album can be found here.

afQxkKfg.jpg

FR5Nxqjg.jpg

QPEJeuFg.png
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The big question I have is how have you found the motherboard, is it stable and what speed have you got the ram running at, I was going to buy the same ram. I'm sure you probably have everything at their defaults so maybe you could report back in a few days or a week. I suspect a lot of people, myself included, will probably buy this board! That's going to be a really nice build when you get the new cooler and GPU :)
 
Even at 299mm...it has a very good chance of fitting

EVGA's new official number (the 4th time they changed their damn product data) of 11.37 inches is 289mm.

That would be a guaranteed fit in the A4
 
Blackreplica said:
Even at 299mm...it has a very good chance of fitting

EVGA's new official number (the 4th time they changed their damn product data) of 11.37 inches is 289mm.

That would be a guaranteed fit in the A4
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It is not EVGAs fault, it is hard to measure something to a precision of 1mm especially if you have the CAD files which probably specify the length to an accuracy of +/- 0.1mm. xD
 
richiegore said:
The big question I have is how have you found the motherboard, is it stable and what speed have you got the ram running at, I was going to buy the same ram. I'm sure you probably have everything at their defaults so maybe you could report back in a few days or a week. I suspect a lot of people, myself included, will probably buy this board! That's going to be a really nice build when you get the new cooler and GPU :)
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Still fiddling around with it. For some reason, I get no video out when I have this computer plugged into my monitor, but it works when I hook it up to the TV in the living room. If anyone has suggestions on why this might be and how to fix it I would be thrilled to hear them. I used the 3200Mhz XMP profile and it seems to have simply worked. RAM at 1.366V, but when booting the computer sometimes it power cycles a few times so maybe it's not so stable. Though, once it actually boots it seems solid. I will try manually entering timings and get back to you on that. I think this is a good kit for the motherboard.
 
Deepcoiler said:
Still fiddling around with it. For some reason, I get no video out when I have this computer plugged into my monitor, but it works when I hook it up to the TV in the living room. If anyone has suggestions on why this might be and how to fix it I would be thrilled to hear them. I used the 3200Mhz XMP profile and it seems to have simply worked. RAM at 1.366V, but when booting the computer sometimes it power cycles a few times so maybe it's not so stable. Though, once it actually boots it seems solid. I will try manually entering timings and get back to you on that. I think this is a good kit for the motherboard.
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What cables are you using to connect to each?
 
darksable said:
What cables are you using to connect to each?
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I have been using a miniDP -> HDMI cable for the monitor before I built the new 'puter using the old graphics card. I used an HDMI cable to hook it up to the TV, so I used that same cable with the monitor but no such luck.
 
dondan said:
A4-SFX v2 preview


Today I got two samples of the A4-SFX v2 and some window kit samples. So I spend the day to do many tests. I installed the Asetek 92mm AIO (545LC), did temperature tests with the window kits and I tested the new 92mm FAN mount point.


Carton

Let us start with a preview of the new cartons. I love the carton of the window kit, it is thin and has a good quality.

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Asetek 92mm AIO (545LC)

At first I have to say the installation of the AIO is very hard and it took over an hour to find the perfect routing for the cables. It’s worth the trouble! At first I removed the two Lian Li push clips because the radiator is thicker than 92mm. Furthermore I removed the front USB port, because it will not fit without modding it. And I had to remove the plastic shield because I don’t want to cut it to fit. So you need a GPU with a backplate for this mod. After removing nearly everything XD I installed the radiator without the fan, because you will have more space to plug-in the PSU wires. You are restricted to a normal SFX PSU. After an hour of routing wires I installed the fan and the other components.

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Here are the temperature results. I was able to clock my 6 core i7 to 4Ghz with good temperatures in Prime95. The noise level is very low in comparison to the Dynatron T318.


aio_temp5nu7x.jpg




Window Kit test and case FAN test

I am very happy with the new windows kits and I tend towards the DAN cutout version because it looks more elegant. But it will be your decision I will start a survey/poll in the next two hours, that will end on Tuesday. Here are some pictures of the new panels:


DAN Cutout:

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Slot Cutout:

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If you remember my last test of the first window kit you know that I had to add the cutouts for better temps. After the last hours I can say the temps are better but not on the same level with the default panels. I also made all tests with a case fan on the new mount point. I used a Noctua A9x14 fan. I am very impressed about the results with the case fan. So I recommend a 92mm case fan for the window kit if you plan to install a CPU with a TDP > 65W. Also with default panels installed you will have better temps with a case fan installed. I will add a test with case fan in blow out mode later.

window_cpu_tempimubq.jpg


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Some words:

I really like the new rubber feets the case has so much more grip. No slide on smooth surfaces while pushing the power button. Also the cover for the GPU mounting hole looks very great. I also love the stamped-in motherboard stand-offs because they stay in position forever while unscrewing the motherboard.



Thank you for reading.

With best regards

Daniel
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Did you test the window kit + 92mm AIO? It would be nice to know the temps/
 
Deepcoiler said:
Still fiddling around with it. For some reason, I get no video out when I have this computer plugged into my monitor, but it works when I hook it up to the TV in the living room. If anyone has suggestions on why this might be and how to fix it I would be thrilled to hear them. I used the 3200Mhz XMP profile and it seems to have simply worked. RAM at 1.366V, but when booting the computer sometimes it power cycles a few times so maybe it's not so stable. Though, once it actually boots it seems solid. I will try manually entering timings and get back to you on that. I think this is a good kit for the motherboard.
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Cool thanks for the info, hopefully biostar do a good job with bios updates but your experience seems very positive so far as is. Guru3d say there is a new microcode with enhanced ram compatability which sounds good http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ne...-increase-amd-ryzen-memory-compatibility.html
Looking forward to hearing more!
 
bAMtan2 said:
I bet the cooler AMD gave you is good, and maybe even very close in performance to the Noctua!

I'm very curious to see how the performance of these two coolers really compares!
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I'm thinkin' the stock cooler is quite a bit better as it's keeping me in the 40C-48C range. That comes at the expense of it sticking really far out of the case, though.
 
krcm0209 said:
The FTW3 fits. :)
You have to unscrew the PCI slot and fold it out of the way and get the card in first, then push the PCI slot onto the card and screw it back in.
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Sorry for the crappy photo, will take some better ones later if requested.
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Wow thats looks really nice :)
 
Has anyone tried mod with 1070/1080 mini where the PSU is flipped the other way around (so the PSU fan is on the GPU side), and then mounted a radiator on the PSU?
 
Alright guys, which 1080 ti FTW should i get? the green one or white one? im going for a white/green powder coat build.

Edit: to be more specific, should i go for all white with green LED, or White case, Green components, and white LEDs illuminating?
 
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dondan said:
A4-SFX v2 preview


Today I got two samples of the A4-SFX v2 and some window kit samples. So I spend the day to do many tests. I installed the Asetek 92mm AIO (545LC), did temperature tests with the window kits and I tested the new 92mm FAN mount point.


Carton

Let us start with a preview of the new cartons. I love the carton of the window kit, it is thin and has a good quality.

img_42228wu9z.jpg



Asetek 92mm AIO (545LC)

At first I have to say the installation of the AIO is very hard and it took over an hour to find the perfect routing for the cables. It’s worth the trouble! At first I removed the two Lian Li push clips because the radiator is thicker than 92mm. Furthermore I removed the front USB port, because it will not fit without modding it. And I had to remove the plastic shield because I don’t want to cut it to fit. So you need a GPU with a backplate for this mod. After removing nearly everything XD I installed the radiator without the fan, because you will have more space to plug-in the PSU wires. You are restricted to a normal SFX PSU. After an hour of routing wires I installed the fan and the other components.

img_41888cu61.jpg

img_4189ajuld.jpg

img_4191tuucc.jpg


Here are the temperature results. I was able to clock my 6 core i7 to 4Ghz with good temperatures in Prime95. The noise level is very low in comparison to the Dynatron T318.


aio_temp5nu7x.jpg




Window Kit test and case FAN test

I am very happy with the new windows kits and I tend towards the DAN cutout version because it looks more elegant. But it will be your decision I will start a survey/poll in the next two hours, that will end on Tuesday. Here are some pictures of the new panels:


DAN Cutout:

img_4204edu6a.jpg

img_4210ieupa.jpg


Slot Cutout:

img_419873u7x.jpg

img_4195dludq.jpg




If you remember my last test of the first window kit you know that I had to add the cutouts for better temps. After the last hours I can say the temps are better but not on the same level with the default panels. I also made all tests with a case fan on the new mount point. I used a Noctua A9x14 fan. I am very impressed about the results with the case fan. So I recommend a 92mm case fan for the window kit if you plan to install a CPU with a TDP > 65W. Also with default panels installed you will have better temps with a case fan installed. I will add a test with case fan in blow out mode later.

window_cpu_tempimubq.jpg


window_gpu_tempbiuig.jpg



Some words:

I really like the new rubber feets the case has so much more grip. No slide on smooth surfaces while pushing the power button. Also the cover for the GPU mounting hole looks very great. I also love the stamped-in motherboard stand-offs because they stay in position forever while unscrewing the motherboard.



Thank you for reading.

With best regards

Daniel
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Note that the Astek will give owners of the Strix board issues due to the location of the ram. (Side where the hoses will cross over)

If you look at Dan's X99 board, the ram is located at the bottom of the board.

I personally had issues because the hoses were not long enough to make the loop across the bottom of the ram and back to the socket.

Will break it out and try once again this weekend. (with photos)
 
David A4 said:
Alright guys, which 1080 ti FTW should i get? the green one or white one? im going for a white/green powder coat build.

Edit: to be more specific, should i go for all white with green LED, or White case, Green components, and white LEDs illuminating?
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Green components, for sure. Getting the exact right shade of green is really finicky, and is much less suave. If you're going as far as powder coating the case, you want it to look somewhat refined.
 
Got some temps to tell you guys about. Got home and ambient was about 19-20C, FTW3 idled at 36C. I set my fan curves to that the fans never spin up more than 50%. After running a full benchmark of Unigine Heaven, max temp reached was about 75-76C. I used EVGA Precision XOC with a power target of 127%, temperature target of 80C, +25MHz on GPU clock, and +400MHz on MEM clock.
 
krcm0209 said:
Got some temps to tell you guys about. Got home and ambient was about 19-20C, FTW3 idled at 36C. I set my fan curves to that the fans never spin up more than 50%. After running a full benchmark of Unigine Heaven, max temp reached was about 75-76C. I used EVGA Precision XOC with a power target of 127%, temperature target of 80C, +25MHz on GPU clock, and +400MHz on MEM clock.
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How about fan noise?
 
Man am I glad I was patient enough to wait for the FTW3. Still waiting for mine to ship though. Knowing it fits, its pretty much the ultimate 1080Ti for the Dan A4
 
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