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DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

dondan said:
Yes you can ordered the panels seperate on the Kickstarter campaign end of may.
The caseking units will be the same batch as the Kickstarter units. So it will be v2. If the Kickstarter campaign will success the batch will arrive end of 2017/early 2018.


Nothing is in production. I will place my order for 2017 after the Kickstarter campaign ends.
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I meant "then" :p
 
Rappy said:
So I preordered from overclockers.co.uk when they first went up with an ETA July date after the first sold out...is that just a placeholder and they won't have any til the end of 2017?
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Things changes some time and as Dondan says end of 2017 or beginning of 2018.

If he dont have any production of this cases just now its the way it is.
 
Jonas Mellkvist said:
Things changes some time and as Dondan says end of 2017 or beginning of 2018.

If he dont have any production of this cases just now its the way it is.
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Man...another whole year. I was assuming another batch of v1 seeing as that ETA date has been up forever and the fact that they put the page back up for preorders when they didn't even do that for the first run. Probably shouldn't have ordered things specifically for this case before confirming I'd actually receive one. Guess I'm out for this case.
 
Are the Kickstarter orders not going to come with the USB3.1 gen 2 port on the front?
 
Rappy: I am sorry, I informed Caseking and OvervlockersUK month ago that the date on their website is wrong and they know that production takes 5-6 month.

Synomenon: The count of available USB 3.1 gen2 boards is too low. Maybe I will add it as an strech goal because the tooling fees and the MOQ are very high for the interbal cable.
 
dondan Any possibility of a separate 3.1 gen 2 usb conversion kit (preferably with black instead of blue insert)? Considering the the high MOQ of actually replacing gen 1

Edit: went to look at the new bag accessory saw usb c gen 2 kit is in development what I meant was a type A kit
 
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dondan said:
Rappy: I am sorry, I informed Caseking and OvervlockersUK month ago that the date on their website is wrong and they know that production takes 5-6 month.

Synomenon: The count of available USB 3.1 gen2 boards is too low. Maybe I will add it as an strech goal because the tooling fees and the MOQ are very high for the interbal cable.
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhh :(
Then I will cancel the order and buy it on kickstarter on end of may
 
caseking (ger) sucks. their delid 4,8ghz i7 7700k which I ordered 2,5weeks ago is now said to take 3-4 weeks longer, which is why I cancelled the order and ordered a stock version from vibuonline.de. I might delid it if temps are unsatisfactory....
 
dondan said:
Rappy: I am sorry, I informed Caseking and OvervlockersUK month ago that the date on their website is wrong and they know that production takes 5-6 month.

Synomenon: The count of available USB 3.1 gen2 boards is too low. Maybe I will add it as an strech goal because the tooling fees and the MOQ are very high for the interbal cable.
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For now, but as time goes on, more and more boards will have the header for it... And this Kickstarter batch isn't coming out tomorrow...
 
mcheddadi said:
bought their engineering sample directly from taiwan. for the strix, well that's the mobo I have so it better lol.
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I have to ask, can someone still purchase an all-copper engineering sample directly from them? And if so, could you PM me who I would contact and how much it cost you?

mcheddadi said:
here's the process with anyone who has a normal axp-100 or axp-100 muscle or axp-100R or the 8 or 9 guys thats have the axp-100 full copper




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That is absolutely amazing. In the video are you comparing the copper AXP-100 to the original AXP-100H? the nickel-plated one seems much taller?

mcheddadi said:
bended it more to include the retention plate.

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Okay this is simply amazing. I know the original AXP-100 is 44mm tall. But how tall was this one after you finished modding it. Please share, I must know! I'm also on a z270i and am looking for the absolutely lowest temps possible on my 7700k, which is inside my S4 mini.
 
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This might sound pretty stupid but how does a bare bones v2 sound? Like just the frame and that revised usb? I would be interested in that. Just put the panels, riser and power cord of my v1 on it and done. I don't know how much money that'll save or if those components are even compatible though. But a €100 "upgrade" kit for existing owners would be awesome.
 
mathijs159 said:
This might sound pretty stupid but how does a bare bones v2 sound? Like just the frame and that revised usb? I would be interested in that. Just put the panels, riser and power cord of my v1 on it and done. I don't know how much money that'll save or if those components are even compatible though. But a €100 "upgrade" kit for existing owners would be awesome.
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And I'd like to get another set of external panels only. Just because I want to change color sometimes. Dan, what about that option?
 
The final measurements from the 1080ti FTW3 looks to be 299-300mm, thats not gna fit is it?
 
A4-SFX v2 preview


Today I got two samples of the A4-SFX v2 and some window kit samples. So I spend the day to do many tests. I installed the Asetek 92mm AIO (545LC), did temperature tests with the window kits and I tested the new 92mm FAN mount point.


Carton

Let us start with a preview of the new cartons. I love the carton of the window kit, it is thin and has a good quality.

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Asetek 92mm AIO (545LC)

At first I have to say the installation of the AIO is very hard and it took over an hour to find the perfect routing for the cables. It’s worth the trouble! At first I removed the two Lian Li push clips because the radiator is thicker than 92mm. Furthermore I removed the front USB port, because it will not fit without modding it. And I had to remove the plastic shield because I don’t want to cut it to fit. So you need a GPU with a backplate for this mod. After removing nearly everything XD I installed the radiator without the fan, because you will have more space to plug-in the PSU wires. You are restricted to a normal SFX PSU. After an hour of routing wires I installed the fan and the other components.

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img_4189ajuld.jpg

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Here are the temperature results. I was able to clock my 6 core i7 to 4Ghz with good temperatures in Prime95. The noise level is very low in comparison to the Dynatron T318.


aio_temp5nu7x.jpg




Window Kit test and case FAN test

I am very happy with the new windows kits and I tend towards the DAN cutout version because it looks more elegant. But it will be your decision I will start a survey/poll in the next two hours, that will end on Tuesday. Here are some pictures of the new panels:


DAN Cutout:

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Slot Cutout:

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If you remember my last test of the first window kit you know that I had to add the cutouts for better temps. After the last hours I can say the temps are better but not on the same level with the default panels. I also made all tests with a case fan on the new mount point. I used a Noctua A9x14 fan. I am very impressed about the results with the case fan. So I recommend a 92mm case fan for the window kit if you plan to install a CPU with a TDP > 65W. Also with default panels installed you will have better temps with a case fan installed. I will add a test with case fan in blow out mode later.

window_cpu_tempimubq.jpg


window_gpu_tempbiuig.jpg



Some words:

I really like the new rubber feets the case has so much more grip. No slide on smooth surfaces while pushing the power button. Also the cover for the GPU mounting hole looks very great. I also love the stamped-in motherboard stand-offs because they stay in position forever while unscrewing the motherboard.



Thank you for reading.

With best regards

Daniel
 
What if you combine the two windows: the word "Dan" with a line above and a line below. The top line will ventilate the PSU more and the bottom line will ventilate the CPU more (in theory).
 
Hi dan, i have a question regarding the window kit, if i were to use the window ver and travel with it in the wallye bag would it be safe?? Also with this acrylic glass would you say after testing it it wont scartch as easily as normal acrylic glass?? Coz i know acrylic is much lighter compare to tempered glass and it will make it easy to carry around but I dont want it to look ugly(scratches) over time. Sorry if my question has been answered before im new here and i make account coz im interested with this project
 
wow with this new case. there might be a possibility to water cool the video card... imo.. hopefully dan... can give it a test on an 1080/1080 TI and give it a shot....

or can you raise the 3m connector on the video card a bit more higher? so that there will be more space below for a thicker fan??
 
dondan What CPU cooler is that below that A9x14, and yes the A9x14 PWM is an AMAZING fan, I have one ziptied to my CPU cooler just like yours... its keeping my 7700k very cool along with a Thermolab LP53! :D
 
Guys,

Dan's survey includes an option for saying 'i am not interested in a window kit' so if you are not interested in it for whatever reason, please vote as well. Reason is because I dont want to see dan commit to this only to have it not do well in terms of profit because too few people eventually bought it.

Personally i was very keen on it when first discussed but after seeing the looks and big impact on thermals, I will personally not be buying it. Lets give Dan a picture as accurate as possible and vote in the survey even if we are not interested in and not buying the window kit
 
human_crosse said:
wow with this new case. there might be a possibility to water cool the video card... imo.. hopefully dan... can give it a test on an 1080/1080 TI and give it a shot....

or can you raise the 3m connector on the video card a bit more higher? so that there will be more space below for a thicker fan??
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that would result in worse performance because the radiator heatsink he tested is smaller than the heatpipe heatsink on big graphics cards. DAN A4-SFX does not have a lack of space for video cards, and so does not need water cooling for video cards!
 
I had to use the 3.0 front connector on my ASUS z270i to connect the Corsair Lighting Node...anyone know how I can connect the front USB so that I may also use that? Is there a splitter I can use or a 3.0 to 3.1 adapter?
 
dondan said:
A4-SFX v2 preview


Today I got two samples of the A4-SFX v2 and some window kit samples. So I spend the day to do many tests. I installed the Asetek 92mm AIO (545LC), did temperature tests with the window kits and I tested the new 92mm FAN mount point.


Carton

Let us start with a preview of the new cartons. I love the carton of the window kit, it is thin and has a good quality.

img_42228wu9z.jpg



Asetek 92mm AIO (545LC)

At first I have to say the installation of the AIO is very hard and it took over an hour to find the perfect routing for the cables. It’s worth the trouble! At first I removed the two Lian Li push clips because the radiator is thicker than 92mm. Furthermore I removed the front USB port, because it will not fit without modding it. And I had to remove the plastic shield because I don’t want to cut it to fit. So you need a GPU with a backplate for this mod. After removing nearly everything XD I installed the radiator without the fan, because you will have more space to plug-in the PSU wires. You are restricted to a normal SFX PSU. After an hour of routing wires I installed the fan and the other components.

img_41888cu61.jpg

img_4189ajuld.jpg

img_4191tuucc.jpg


Here are the temperature results. I was able to clock my 6 core i7 to 4Ghz with good temperatures in Prime95. The noise level is very low in comparison to the Dynatron T318.


aio_temp5nu7x.jpg




Window Kit test and case FAN test

I am very happy with the new windows kits and I tend towards the DAN cutout version because it looks more elegant. But it will be your decision I will start a survey/poll in the next two hours, that will end on Tuesday. Here are some pictures of the new panels:


DAN Cutout:

img_4204edu6a.jpg

img_4210ieupa.jpg


Slot Cutout:

img_419873u7x.jpg

img_4195dludq.jpg




If you remember my last test of the first window kit you know that I had to add the cutouts for better temps. After the last hours I can say the temps are better but not on the same level with the default panels. I also made all tests with a case fan on the new mount point. I used a Noctua A9x14 fan. I am very impressed about the results with the case fan. So I recommend a 92mm case fan for the window kit if you plan to install a CPU with a TDP > 65W. Also with default panels installed you will have better temps with a case fan installed. I will add a test with case fan in blow out mode later.

window_cpu_tempimubq.jpg


window_gpu_tempbiuig.jpg



Some words:

I really like the new rubber feets the case has so much more grip. No slide on smooth surfaces while pushing the power button. Also the cover for the GPU mounting hole looks very great. I also love the stamped-in motherboard stand-offs because they stay in position forever while unscrewing the motherboard.



Thank you for reading.

With best regards

Daniel
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Dondan any chanses to order the new rubber feet to V1 Case, i know that it sell.
 
Blackreplica said:
Dan has mentioned before, the thermals are very bad with this design
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What if the glass was raised off the panel and not flush? Like 2mm of clearance or more, wouldn't that provide airflow while keeping the aesthetic?
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Simalar to the Crystal-series-570x where there is a bit of a gap.
 
FlamingKomodo said:
What if the glass was raised off the panel and not flush?
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That was already the case with his original design und still is the case with the versions from the survey; the main problem is that the channeling principle of this case (cold air in on the side, hot air out at the top/back) gets muddled with any type of raised side panel. Cut-outs in the acrylic at least mitigate this effect somewhat.
 
In the past I would carefully make a circular cut out for a fan and 4 holes for the fan mounting. A simple wire fan grill to prevent any accidents of course.
 
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