Thanks! Ran it for a while at full fan, capped at 85C for me with cover off, getting anywhere around that?
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DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world
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Thanks! Ran it for a while at full fan, capped at 85C for me with cover off, getting anywhere around that?
Blackreplica
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So
sorry but i think you messed up your delid. When i run uniengine loops on a single fan gtx 970 dumping massive heat into the dan a4 with the intel extreme cpu test concurrently, i see peak temps of 90deg after an hour with an ambient temp of 30degrees. With aida running and no gpu load i could probably easily manage 80degrees or less. This is all on a 4.6Ghz overclock
Plus i am just using the c7 heatsink along with the noctua a9-x14 fan
sorry but i think you messed up your delid. When i run uniengine loops on a single fan gtx 970 dumping massive heat into the dan a4 with the intel extreme cpu test concurrently, i see peak temps of 90deg after an hour with an ambient temp of 30degrees. With aida running and no gpu load i could probably easily manage 80degrees or less. This is all on a 4.6Ghz overclock
Plus i am just using the c7 heatsink along with the noctua a9-x14 fan
That's a relief!
Will tear it all down and reapply the Liquid metal.
I was careful and thin with the application. That was me being overly cautious.
I appreciate the info.
Also, antes to add that my g.skill rgb ram does indeed post and run at 4200mhz. I have updated to the latest bios, so if anyone was having issues before, try updating and check your results.
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I've managed to install the heatsink/fan assembly from a EVGA GTX 1080 FTW (bought from eBay) onto my Titan Xp. Highest temps I've seen so far is 61C with an ambient of around 22C. Idle temps are extremely low at around 23 to 26C. Fan is silent at idle and about as loud as a PS4 Pro at full tilt. Boost clocks settle right at 2000mhz; I haven't touched the memory yet. Second image is my Titan X (Pascal)... I used it as the test bed in-case I did something wrong. Moved the Titan X (Pascal) to my second PC with a hybrid mod installed; third pic.
You should install taller feet, to give the fan on the radiator some breathing room.
I really wished you would have tried the radiator outside the case without delid first, those results could have been quite important. But hopefully Dan will deliver this
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Sorry if you've already given this info, but this is an upgrade from what temps at stock?
Guys i couldn't find a sufficient spreadsheet for different clock speed stats on the 7700k... since i'm about to buy a pre delided one 4,8 oc from caseking and ppl suggested i'd have to run it down to 4,5~4,6, i kinda like to know what settings i need to provide. Offset, coreclock, voltage and anything else i need. I'm running on a strix z270i with a noctua l9i fan. ( i know every cpu is unique but some reference stats would be great )
A lot of people, myself included, will be letting you know that the only way to get a rock-solid overclock at the minimum voltage possible is to overclock till it needs more voltage to be stable, bump voltage till it is, clock higher - so forth and so on until temps become unmanageable, and then back down a step.
However, if you aren't pushing your chip to its limits, then you probably don't need to bother with that.
To get 4.6 GHz shouldn't be a problem at all, and a number of chips can probably do it at stock voltage. If you want to see, just set your core multiplayer (ratio) to 46, boot up, and test it out. If that's not rock solid, use offset voltage and start by adding +.075v or so; you're aiming to hit 1.25vcore. That should be enough for almost any chip to run 4.6GHz solidly, and if it checks out, you can start backing down slowly to get better optimized temps.
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With the stock heatsink/fan at the default fan curve I'd hit the soft thermal limit of 83C at load and the Titan Xp would down clock to compensate; idle temps were between 32 - 40C. I did create a custom fan curve threw Afterburner (idle around 30C, load around 77C) and the card would no longer down clock but it sounded like a small jet.
So basically I upgraded to lower temps (-20C+ at load), higher boost clocks, and a much quieter PC.
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illram
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So on my Ti I hit the thermal cap briefly sometimes while playing Witcher 3, never while doing stress tests, but according to HWINFO I am averaging, over the hours played, a higher clock speed and voltage with the more aggressive curve vs the default. Looking at a data dump I see the card reaches thermal load but not for the sustained periods of time it was reaching under default fan curves, also it takes a lot longer to hit the thermal cap. This is with my fan capped at 70% also, not 100%, and with a really aggressive ramp up. (Basically shoots up to 70% once card goes over 45c.)
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Just asking:
1.- Did you put Liquid Metal on the Chip and in the IHS (a matching square)
2.- If you close it with silicone, did you leave a tiny gap? (the stock glue that holds the IHS doesn't close it all around)
3.- Maybe the IHS is far from the chip, doesn't make contact and doesn't cool it.
Do you need to put liquid metal on the underside of the IHS? I've seen it both ways in videos and what not. I am nervous because I delidded yesterday (haven't tested it since I let it cure overnight) and only went with a layer on the die too.
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I think it's necessary, because the Liquid Metal won't get easily impregnated on the IHS, maybe I'm wrong.
I'll find out tonight when I fire it up, I suppose.
I put it on both sides. Honestly, I think it's because it only applied a thin layer on each (CPU and Top IHS)
I used loctite dots to keep the IHS in place and held it in place in the Rocket 88 deliding/relidding tool.
I think this is exactly what happened. I just fixing apply enough in fear of causing other issues by accidentally using too much.
So far so good over here. A sample AID64 run is seeing temperatures at 64C 8 minutes in. I feel like I would be sitting at high 80s by now pre-delid.
Just curious: has anyone tried removing their GPU's heatsync and reapplying with a better (e.g. Thermal Grizzly) thermal paste to improve temps by a few degrees yet? I haven't got my parts yet but I plan on doing so with my MSI 1080 when it arrives.
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GPUs TIM are typically good and you wont see enough of an improvement in temps overall for it to be worth it. As well as a large amount of the heat tends to come from the VRMs which typically use thermal pads not paste.
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yes it will help a bit. youll get ~5C cooler typically, some times more if the hsf wasn't screwed down tight.
What are your normal idle temps? Also, do you think me running 4200mhz Ram will cause this massive heat issue?
I'm going to reapply tomorrow.
My idle temps didn't really drop in Windows it seems. They're staying around 40 or so, although the Cryorig C7 seems to be quieter than it was before. I got excited when I saw 27C in BIOS, but right now I am hovering at 40 idle. Though I haven't undervolted or anything and it looks like turbo mode is constantly running at 4.5ghz. I did a test Handbrake video encode and I seemed to top out at 80 (whereas I'd probably hit 90s before).
So all in all, a bit of a mixed bag. I don't know if I should reapply or if this is what I should expect though.
Sorry for the late reply. I have the Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB, DDR4-3000, CL15-17-17-35. Maybe I will try to make XMP work with undervolt as some have suggested.
Do you mean the risk of cuttung yourself or to damage the CPU? Usually I am a little clumsy and would cut myself any time possible, but in this case I didn't injure myself (or the CPU)
. Just be extra careful and slow. Removing the second blade-side is and using the electrical tape to cover the metal edges helps avoiding injuries Btw about the Asus Z270 POST problem. After 1 or 2 succesful boots (after turning off power) after the bios reset, I have the same problem again :/. I guess I need to wait for a fix from Asus.
MSI GTX1080 Gaming X - Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut , max 75 °C - 1634 speed
That is a gorgeous system. Now plug in front panel headers and Sata cables.
I have to say, I'm awfully impressed with how large a difference having a fan duct of some sort has been making for people; that's an easy fix to pick up 4-5 degrees. Was it tricky to make?
Would you like to share the file for 3d print?
That's impressive quality! Which way does the fan point? Does the fan direction change performance?
Sure.Would you like to share the file for 3d print?
Attachments
Not really. Just don't make cantilever snaps with printed parts, they'll just... snap right off.
Looks like an Asus Strix z270i, with the VRM heatsinks removed and replaced by aluminium fins.
(Speaking of, ceski, how much of a difference did that make to temps and airflow?)
Originally, 10 minutes each. In the name of science, I ran it again for 1 hour each. Weather was a bit cooler today.
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I'm going to grab a FLIR thermal camera and see what the board looks like next.
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Originally, 10 minutes each. In the name of science, I ran it again for 1 hour each. Weather was a bit cooler today.
I'm going to grab a FLIR thermal camera and see what the board looks like next.
Are you going to run at 5.0GHz as a daily driver?
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Very clean build I am impressed.
The heatsinks from adafruit look way better than my copper heatsinks. xD
Btw. a word to my dead Asus Strix board.
It looks like my RGB strip killed the motherboard, I had an older one without the whole Aura certification thingy. Don't do that, it can kill your board. Luckily the shop I bought it at is nice enough to replace it (I am a very good customer) even though I apparently killed the board myself.
damn, i'm impressed at your results ceski. I tried just to see with the strix heatsink removed but not the bottum one, without the IO shield and without 4mm standoffs, with kryonut thermal grizzly paste, with delid (liquid metal), with the lp53 + the noctua fan and it thermal throttled like crazy at 4.6ghz . did not last more than a minute without dying in prime 95. thats with a 6700K. with the axp-100 full copper I can do 5ghz but it can't run more than a minute without crashing in prime 95.
not having heatinks on your vrms would that increase the temps of the cpu? I would not think so. well I'm stummped lol. 4.4ghz at 75C max load is what I'm going to run I guess. 10% overclock. meh...
DONDAN if you want to send me a prototpe of your new project case (not a4-sfx v2, the other new secret one) I'd love some water cooling options . I can pay for it too
. did not last more than a minute without dying in prime 95. thats with a 6700K. with the axp-100 full copper I can do 5ghz but it can't run more than a minute without crashing in prime 95. not having heatinks on your vrms would that increase the temps of the cpu? I would not think so. well I'm stummped lol. 4.4ghz at 75C max load is what I'm going to run I guess. 10% overclock. meh...
DONDAN if you want to send me a prototpe of your new project case (not a4-sfx v2, the other new secret one) I'd love some water cooling options . I can pay for it too
damn, i'm impressed at your results ceski. I tried just to see with the strix heatsink removed but not the bottum one, without the IO shield and without 4mm standoffs, with kryonut thermal grizzly paste, with delid (liquid metal), with the lp53 + the noctua fan and it thermal throttled like crazy at 4.6ghz
not having heatinks on your vrms would that increase the temps of the cpu? I would not think so. well I'm stummped lol. 4.4ghz at 75C max load is what I'm going to run I guess. 10% overclock. meh...
Hmmm... it sounds like something's off. Either the heatsink doesn't have enough pressure or just isn't seated correctly...
What voltage are you using? Unless you got really, really unlucky, you shouldn't even need anything extra to hit 4.4-4.6 or so.