You actually paid more for it? My 7700K does 5.0 at 1.28V.. Stays pretty cool in A4 SFX.So just got a 5.0ghz pre-binned 7700k from overclockers.co.uk. They achieved it with an AIO cookers at 1.35V. Will be interesting to how the Noctua NH-L9i handles it. Stay tuned
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DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world
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ahmedelamin_
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I paid for the 4.9ghz. It made sense as the delid tool isn't in stock and costs £25 anyway. Plus I would have a warranty if anything happened as opposed to throwing away £350 if I messed up the delidding process. I was upgraded to the 5.0ghz for free as they didn't have any more 4.9 in stock
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What?? 4.9 in stock? They have frequencys for sale? LOL. They set your multiplier in your bios for you? I don't get it
They tested the cpu at a certain speed at a set frequency, to prove it perfoms good after delid. It's quality management.
What this gives you is a chip garaunteed to run at a certain overclock, and you avoid the hassle of delidding yourself.
Ahhh, you failed to mention at first that it was pre-delidded.
That's actually a pretty cool service, and the ability to have a warranty on a delidded part definitely seems worth a premium to me.
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For clarification see the screenshots below. The first one is the new chip capable of running at 5.0 stable.
The second image is the old chip that was suppose to be able to run at 4.9 stable but there was an issue with the second core (17degree difference in temperature between it and core 1.)
I was given a free upgrade. Both chips were set to 4.5 for the initial tests. Using NH-l9i cooler with NT-H1 paste. The fan curves and voltage have all been left at stock for these initial tests.
I believe that the warranty on the pre-delidded chips is 1 year.
The second image is the old chip that was suppose to be able to run at 4.9 stable but there was an issue with the second core (17degree difference in temperature between it and core 1.)
I was given a free upgrade. Both chips were set to 4.5 for the initial tests. Using NH-l9i cooler with NT-H1 paste. The fan curves and voltage have all been left at stock for these initial tests.
I believe that the warranty on the pre-delidded chips is 1 year.
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Cool cool. Enjoy. I had my 6700k at 5ghz stable but can't run it more than 2min in prime 95 without thermal throttling. In a bigger case with water cooling or a big beffy tower cooler it could work but in the Dan a4sfx Max is 4.7ghz without any throttling but around 95c. Otherwise 4.4ghz at Max 75c is what I settled for.
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To the guy who says he has 5ghz stable in the dan a4 with an NH-L9i. I'd like to see some proof
Not sure if you are talking about me? If you are, I'm not using NH-L9i. Actually got my vcore at 1.26 right now.. Delidded of course.
How much power does your cpu need? Seems pretty high if you have it delidded.
I'm making another A4 SFX build today with a 4770K that I will delid, will see how it compares to my 7700K temp wise.
High Daniel, I've some ideas reagrdings the thermal design of your case.
I have the impression that you are a PC case enthusiast. You might know the Silverstone FT02. I had this case before I went SFF. The 90° mobo tray worked really efficient for air cooling. The main advantage is that the GPU is not horizontal but vertical to the laminar air stream. Your case has the same properties. So by adding a little space on top and below one might get excellent cooling (like really high level cooling, the FT02 was crazy while not being too loud. Helping the stack effect does that (Kamineffekt).
I have the impression that you are a PC case enthusiast. You might know the Silverstone FT02. I had this case before I went SFF. The 90° mobo tray worked really efficient for air cooling. The main advantage is that the GPU is not horizontal but vertical to the laminar air stream. Your case has the same properties. So by adding a little space on top and below one might get excellent cooling (like really high level cooling, the FT02 was crazy while not being too loud. Helping the stack effect does that (Kamineffekt).
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I might get the AMD Ryzen 1700, but I am hoping that I can OC it to 3.7GHz. Since cpu cooling is limited in the Dan A4 case, Ryzen 1600X may be the safest bet as these are cpus that should be running at lower voltages than a regular Ryzen 1600.
Ah, well then it makes sense.. Didn't know it was a delid.
Run prime 95 with these settings : https://imgur.com/UhzFIPz s
And show us a screen cap with realtemps with CPU clock showing 5ghz please. Id like to emulate your settings to run at 5ghz also. Also if you could take a pic of you cooler setup and give us the name of the components that would be great for everyone wanting
There are no guaranteed Ryzen ITX motherboards before June.
I was waiting for them but I don't care anymore.
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I'll probably build my all AMD build around the Christmas time
This is my afternoon..
Finally received all the desired parts, plus a water cooler and will be attempting to complete the build today.
DonDan ordered this cooler to see if he can find a mounting point for Case Ver2. I have placed the FE 1080 ti inside and have found that it does indeed sit below the card while also having the Noctua fan attached.
Lets also see how this 4266 ram performs. Got it for $203, so figured why not!
Finally received all the desired parts, plus a water cooler and will be attempting to complete the build today.
DonDan ordered this cooler to see if he can find a mounting point for Case Ver2. I have placed the FE 1080 ti inside and have found that it does indeed sit below the card while also having the Noctua fan attached.
Lets also see how this 4266 ram performs. Got it for $203, so figured why not!
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Hello,
Here are some photos of the water cooler sitting on to of the Noctua fan.
Im sure it would be better to reverse the seating, fan on top. this is just for measure.
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Me too!
Delided and waiting to cure!
I don't think this water cooler is going to work.
Please let me know if you or anyone else has ideas/positions for the water cooler they wold like me to try.
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As beautiful as the AIO looks sitting there, am pretty sure it wont work the way it is. The tubing is way to inflexible and will foul on the PSU. Plus it might be too thick with the noctua fan, considering space needed for the psu cables
I'm using a 950pro in the back as my boot drive, with an MX300 in the front as my secondary.
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Yes. Just know the rear slot is PCIe only. I have a 600p as my boot drive currently from the rear slot.
(I stupidly bought two M.2 SATA drives at first.... fortunately had a place to put the second one!)
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Oooh, hey, can you answer a question for me?
I jist bought a Strix, myself. I'm only planning on using one pcie SSD and one 2.5" storage drive.
I'd rather not put the M.2 ssd on the back of motherboard due to concerns about heat... But from what I've read, I should have concerns about heat with the 'double decker heatsink anyways.
What are your thoughts between using an nvme drive on the back, on the front with the heatsink, or on the front without the heatsink (but probably without the greatest airflow either way.)
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That AIO looks very interesting! Maybe a way to watercool the gpu/compatibility with future fury X like cards?
my best bet is to buy a pre delided 7700k from Caseking (4.8 ish ghz) + a lil bit of faith so i can keep it under 85 C on load. however, since i`ve ordered internal dust protectors for both sides i kinda get the feeling that 85-90 will be my avg temps on load... D: ....any suggestions? maybe a additional small blowerstyle case fan ?? at least this was my suggestion.
Lp53 with the io shield off with a 120mm slim fan like the prolimatech one with a dellid with liquid metal on IHS and the lp53 and you switch the mother board heatinks for the mosfet and VRMs with the small copper prong ones, I say maybe you'll run at 4.8ghz at 98C underload if you're lucky. IMO a single rad AIO water cooling with only a 92mm fan will be the same because of the fan . Good luck!
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You could do a pretty cool build with one of the new Ryzen APUs, if there are any powerful ones, and a slim 240/280mm rad on the GPU side....
Edit: Probably would make no sense from a performance/price perspective unless you can get a suitable AIO cooler...
Edit: Probably would make no sense from a performance/price perspective unless you can get a suitable AIO cooler...
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I'm not entirely sure the front heatsink does a whole lot, to be honest. (Good or bad). I haven't tested it in both configurations. I realize now I probably should remove the sticker on the front of the m.2 so the heatsink thermal pad has direct contact with the SSD chips in order to really see if it makes a difference but, to be honest since it doesn't seem to ever get too hot (high 50's sometimes during extreme loads) I don't care much either way. I did see nice low temps when I was testing with a 120mm CPU cooling fan, so as you said this is really about air flow (or lack thereof) as far as how cool you really want that front m.2 slot.
But the rear drive does get hotter, sometimes in the high 60's. I never see it get that hot on the front, so if I were only using one slot I'd use the front one.
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Can you turn the radiator around so the tubes don't have to stretch as much? Or does the end tank hit the motherboard tray?
Cool, thanks for letting me borrow some experience.
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Here is a full GTX 1080Ti compatibility list:
Added: PNY GeForce GTX 1080 Ti XLR8 Gaming OC.
Reason: Card length = 31.39cm (12.36 inches). Which more than the 29.5cm max length of the case's specifications. This hasn't been tested however, so I left it in orange.
- Nvidia 1080 Ti FE
- ASUS ROG Strix GTX 1080 Ti
- ASUS Turbo GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Gaming
- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition Gaming
- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Gaming
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Aorus Xtreme Edition 11G
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Aorus 11G
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC 11G
- Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Twin X2
- Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC
- Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 Ti iChill X3 Ultra
- Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 Ti iChill X4 Ultra
- KFA² GeForce GTX 1080 Ti EXOC
- KFA² GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X 11G
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Armor 11G OC
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Aero 11G OC
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Armor 11G
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Aero 11G
- Palit GeForce GTX 1080 Ti JetStream
- Palit GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Super JetStream
- Palit GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GameRock
- Palit GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GameRock Premium
- PNY GeForce GTX 1080 Ti XLR8 Gaming OC
- Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP Extreme
- Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP
- Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Blower
Added: PNY GeForce GTX 1080 Ti XLR8 Gaming OC.
Reason: Card length = 31.39cm (12.36 inches). Which more than the 29.5cm max length of the case's specifications. This hasn't been tested however, so I left it in orange.
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Strange.
You sure that the delid/paste etc is all ok?
Only that I have run a o/c Skylake i5 from a 92mm rad before (twin 25mm fan tho), and had no issue with temps.
Was wondering about other peoples experiences with 250W gpu temps, like titan x and 1080 ti (FE). I'm hitting 88-90C on a titan x, was testing DOOM and it started glitching out. I removed the gpu side panel and it went down to about 84C. Running a 7700k delid and those temps are just fine. Stating to think that hoping the blower style would work is a mistake. Any recommendations such as additional fan placements or something that worked for others?
illram
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Ramp up your fan curve with Afterburner. Default is too slow and caps at 50% on my Ti FE.
I'm using the LP53 with a Noctua fan.
Are all you 7700k owners out there familiar with this behavior?
Thanks in advance!