These are very helpful tips. Thanks! I'll be sure to keep these in mind when I tinker this weekend.
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DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world
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That's really impressive!! I'm surprised at the 5820k results. Make me want to rethink that 8/10 core beast I had in mind.Here It is, the e5-2696 build.
Thermals with the case closed and fully loaded while rendering a very complex 4k scene in vray of my own (ambient temp 23ºC):
· E5-2696 22Cores 2,2 Ghz base + Dynatron-318 + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut + TY100 fan at 100% speed = 82ºC
· i7 5820k 6 Cores 3,3 Ghz base + Dynatron-318 + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut + TY100 fan at 100% speed = 67ºC
I've used a 100% fan speed profile for these tests. For normal using I set a profile like this: 50º 45% 60º 60% 75º 100% 80º 100%. Most of the time it is barely audible, my current temp while writing this post is 50ºC with 45% fan speed.
I also have the Cooljag Falcon II but I went with the dynatron as it mounts more sercurely (there isn't a native 2011-3 narrow bracket for the cooljag) and it performs just the same in my testings. The only benefit of the Cooljag is that it is more silent as the fan is behind it.
Next week I hope I'll receive Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid Metal. I'll post the results.
How's gaming on the Xeon vs the 5820k?
Thanks!
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I did some tests because of my problem that the Asus z270i won't boot the first time after plugging in power:
After I needed to reset bios because XMP does not work, I set my old cpu settings (multiplier 39, -0,08 V offset) one stepp after the other and unplugged power between for a few minutes. But I could not reproduce the problem and I can don't have a boot problem any more. Maybe that solves the problem for those who have the same.
I have not seen any high temperatures in HWInfo on my Asus z270i. Have only one reading at about 70°C highest (I think to remember it does not change over time). But the >100°C sound like a false reading.
I also did my first delid and it was quite easy. I bought a razor blade (blades on both sides) and liquid metal, prepared cleaning alcohol and a piece of cloth to clean the thermal paste.
- I cut the razor blade in two and put electrical tape on the one side to have a save grip, leave about 5 to 10 mm of the blade visible.
- I used a tissue to hold the cpu with one hand and used the razor blade to cut between the heat spreader and board, starting at one edge. Don't cut too far in the direction of the die.
- Do this for all 4 sides until the heat spreader can be rotated slightly (only stickes to the board by the thermal paste)
- Remove the heat spreader and clean the die (+ board) and heat spreader from thermal paste and heat spreader glue. I used the razor blade to carefully remove the glue.
- Apply liquid metal as described on the package
- Mound the cpu board on the motherboard and but the removed heatspreader on (loose, I didn't use glue, the mounting mechanism holds it in place)
I was very nervous (hands shaking the whole delid) but it was very easy. Other than cutting too deep with the razor balde (which is near impossible because of the electrical tape) I don't see any mistake you can make. It was very easy.
I would recommand to watch a few videos (intel razor blade delid), but don't watch the fails
If you have any farther question or want a step by step in German just google or pm me and I am happy to help
For all the people experiencing cold boot issues with DRAM and XMP settings with the Asus Z270i: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?92032-Asus-Strix-Z270i-Issues-Red-CPU-LED. It seems a much recognized problem with this motherboard.
I experience this problem with cold boots while having the XMP profile enabled or having the DRAM frequency set manually to the advertised speeds and I was worried it was a hardware problem at first. There seems to be no solution yet, but I hope a bios update can remedy this in the near future.
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I really hope it does fit. I'm planning an X299 build with the FTW3.
Blackreplica
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Im already preordered so assuming it reaches me first, ill post here about whether it fits (or not)
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i bought myself this bag seeing the pics. very nice
Huh, that's kinda cool. How do you like it so far?
How bad is the inputlag? Its the sole reason im staying away from these screens.
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I need your help forum users!
I just encountered a serious problem with my PC.
My system ran without a problem for about two months now. Yesterday I connected an RGB-Strip to the AURA header on the motherboard to try it out. I started the AURA software on Win10 and tried some things, suddenly I got a blue screen and the system didn't POST anymore.
I disconnected the RGB-Strip, swapped RAM modules, cleared CMOS (oddly the RGB effect was still the same as when it crashed, does that mean the CMOS wasn't cleared?).
I tested the system multiple times without a GPU installed but it doesn't POSt anymore.
In the video you can see what it does.
The RGB effect is just going even if the system is off. Then I start the PC, the red CPU-LED lights up for a moment, then the yellow RAM led lights up for about 4s and then goes away but the system never posts.
Can you guys please help me to debug this problem.
I seriously do not know wtf happened.
video dropbox link (100MB):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tmfst51wcp72mni/IMG_6585.MOV?dl=0
I just encountered a serious problem with my PC.
My system ran without a problem for about two months now. Yesterday I connected an RGB-Strip to the AURA header on the motherboard to try it out. I started the AURA software on Win10 and tried some things, suddenly I got a blue screen and the system didn't POST anymore.
I disconnected the RGB-Strip, swapped RAM modules, cleared CMOS (oddly the RGB effect was still the same as when it crashed, does that mean the CMOS wasn't cleared?).
I tested the system multiple times without a GPU installed but it doesn't POSt anymore.
In the video you can see what it does.
The RGB effect is just going even if the system is off. Then I start the PC, the red CPU-LED lights up for a moment, then the yellow RAM led lights up for about 4s and then goes away but the system never posts.
Can you guys please help me to debug this problem.
I seriously do not know wtf happened.
video dropbox link (100MB):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tmfst51wcp72mni/IMG_6585.MOV?dl=0
Glad to hear it's not only my system that has these problems. I'm hoping for a fix from Asus soon as XMP doesn't work at all.
Have 4266 mhz ram in it but it won't go further than 3200mhz for me.. Kinda wish I had bought the Asrock or Gigabyte motherboard instead.
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So to clarify, the POST issues are not the start up issues being raised here regarding the Strix Mobo? I.e. the board never POSTs the first time after replugging in the power or turning the PSU back on. Have you tried just booting multiple times following a failure to post/red CPU LED?
Originally it was meant to be placed on top of my ps4. Currently i'm using it for my raspberry, ps4, pc, laptop and other stuff. It is really lightweight.
The inputlag is not noticable but since its not meant for high fps gaming i haven't really tried out so far. I have to say. If you look for a mobile solution this will do the job perfectly. I strongly suggest to buy a better monitor for home usage.
It got btw. Speakers built on the stand for the screen.
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GTX 1080 Ti Compatibility
I've started compiling a list of the main GTX 1080 Ti cards from the main manufacturers, not including FE versions. I wanted to get the Aorus myself but it is too thick.
Please feel free to copy and paste this message to include other cards that are available or a note in brackets next to a card if you have personally installed it confirming fit.
Not Compatible
298.0 x 134.0 x 52.5 - ASUS ROG Strix
293.0 x 134.0 x 55.0 - Gigabyte AORUS Xtreme
325.0 x 148.0 x 56.6 - ZOTAC AMP Extreme
300.0 x 148.0 x 43.5 - ZOTAC AMP
290.0 x 140.0 x 51.0 - MSI GAMING X
Tight Fit - Probably still not compatible
299.7 x 142.7 x xx.x - EVGA FTW3 GAMING
Compatible
290.0 x 143.0 x 40.0 - MSI ARMOR 11G OC
269.2 x 118.5 x xx.x - EVGA SC2 GAMING
I've started compiling a list of the main GTX 1080 Ti cards from the main manufacturers, not including FE versions. I wanted to get the Aorus myself but it is too thick.
Please feel free to copy and paste this message to include other cards that are available or a note in brackets next to a card if you have personally installed it confirming fit.
Not Compatible
298.0 x 134.0 x 52.5 - ASUS ROG Strix
293.0 x 134.0 x 55.0 - Gigabyte AORUS Xtreme
325.0 x 148.0 x 56.6 - ZOTAC AMP Extreme
300.0 x 148.0 x 43.5 - ZOTAC AMP
290.0 x 140.0 x 51.0 - MSI GAMING X
Tight Fit - Probably still not compatible
299.7 x 142.7 x xx.x - EVGA FTW3 GAMING
Compatible
290.0 x 143.0 x 40.0 - MSI ARMOR 11G OC
269.2 x 118.5 x xx.x - EVGA SC2 GAMING
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Thanks for compiling the list. Btw i would add the zotac amp edition to the 'might fit' list. I personally measure about 303mm of available space for gpu length in the dan a4
What makes you think the FTW3 won't fit?
Anyway I have a FTW3 on order and will update when I get it to confirm if it fits or does not fit. I suppose at worst I can sell it for what I paid relatively easy on eBay. Or maybe I'd just return it to EVGA. Idk what would be the best option.
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Put this one in the compatible list
280 x 114 mm x 41 - Gigabyte Gaming OC 11G
Someone tested it and it fits, although it is 41mm fat
....and the founders edition of course
From what I've researched, MSI ARMOR 11G oc OVERHEATS, so be aware.
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Will install an 400GB Intel 750 MVNe SSD tonight, I'll post some pictures when completed - I don't think I'll have any issues.
This Intel 750 is double the height of a normal 2,5" SSD. It connects to a U.2 connector on my Asus Z170 Maximus VIII Impact. U.2 is comparable with M.2, except that the SSD connects via a cable instead of a slot on the motherboard.
This Intel 750 is double the height of a normal 2,5" SSD. It connects to a U.2 connector on my Asus Z170 Maximus VIII Impact. U.2 is comparable with M.2, except that the SSD connects via a cable instead of a slot on the motherboard.
I think you have the monitor I want to buy (S2417DG) -- how do you like it?
A lot, my GTX1080 can mostly handle the 144 Frames at 2560x1440 for the Dell 144Hz G-Sync.
27" is not the biggest size, but very comfortable. Recommended!
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Here is a full GTX 1080Ti compatibility list:
- Nvidia 1080 Ti FE
- ASUS ROG Strix GTX 1080 Ti
- ASUS Turbo GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Gaming
- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC Black Edition Gaming
- EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Gaming
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Aorus Xtreme Edition 11G
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Aorus 11G
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC 11G
- Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Twin X2
- Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC
- Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 Ti iChill X3 Ultra
- Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 Ti iChill X4 Ultra
- KFA² GeForce GTX 1080 Ti EXOC
- KFA² GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X 11G
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Armor 11G OC
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Aero 11G OC
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Armor 11G
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Aero 11G
- Palit GeForce GTX 1080 Ti JetStream
- Palit GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Super JetStream
- Palit GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GameRock
- Palit GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GameRock Premium
- Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP Extreme
- Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP
- Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Blower
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Yikes ... I thought about upgrading my Asus ROG STRIX-GTX1080-A8G-GAMING to the new Ti model...
Any idea if the Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti fits when the side panel is removed?
Also: What is the reason these new models don't fit in the A4-SFX? Obviously because of their dimensions, but is this because they don't follow *TX (ATX? ITX?) rules, or is this because the A4-SFX doesn't follow the guidelines?
Or are there only ATX/BTX (whatnot) guidelines for the dimensions of the graphics cards, and are there no guidelines for a ITX case?
Any idea if the Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti fits when the side panel is removed?
Also: What is the reason these new models don't fit in the A4-SFX? Obviously because of their dimensions, but is this because they don't follow *TX (ATX? ITX?) rules, or is this because the A4-SFX doesn't follow the guidelines?
Or are there only ATX/BTX (whatnot) guidelines for the dimensions of the graphics cards, and are there no guidelines for a ITX case?
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Behause they are too thick (2,5 or 3,0 slots instead of 2,0)
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No the bend on the side will collide with the heatsink.
Get the MSI Armor or Zotac AMP they will fit.
Get the MSI Armor or Zotac AMP they will fit.
AFAIK (and correct me if I'm wrong, please), there are no specific standards for graphics card dimensions, only for power draw. That's why you see a lot of standard ATX cases advertised as "Fits 300mm cards", it's like an extra feature. In this case, some manufacturers decided to go 3 PCI slots wide on their cooler designs, and the A4 only has room for two slots. Not a conflict of rules and regulations, but of design philosophy.
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I would recommend everyone steer clear of MSI Armor - really bad reviews on Newegg, overheating issues which have been acknowledged by MSI.
They actually have it in stock at Newegg right now. Can you close the sidepanel and it'll fit?
NCase M1 fits the bill - max cooler height of about 130pm, triple-slot GPU capacity and 12.6l total volume.
Do you have the FTW3 as orange because all we have to go off of right now is EVGA's listed dimensions and they look really close?
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Still sadly waiting for an AM4 mini-itx board to pop up as well as a good am4 low-profile cpu cooler. Gigabyte announced a few weeks back they would come out with one mini-itx but it'll be the B-series. I might go with the Ryzen 1600x since it should run at lower voltages and I always seem to just get average overclocking silicon lottery wise.
X370 on a mini-itx wouldn't have much sense. B series is really enough for most of people.
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So just got a 5.0ghz pre-binned 7700k from overclockers.co.uk. They achieved it with an AIO cookers at 1.35V. Will be interesting to how the Noctua NH-L9i handles it. Stay tuned
This. You lose the ability to use SLI (on your mini itx motherboard...) and a handful of USB ports that wouldn't be there anyways.