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DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

mcheddadi said:
you can definitely get silence and 91W cpus .

lp53 with a nf-a9x14-pwm and you won't hear it at all. whisper quiet even with max prime95 sustained load.

lp53 can be had on ebay for a reasonable price. I got it at $48.89 shipped. and the fan is less than 20$.
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I have the fan :)

What made you choose the ASUS board over the Asrock? I like the thunderbolt 3 option on the Asrock but also like the two m.2 slots on the ASUS.

Was there a definitive reason you chose ASUS?
 
ReaperX22 said:
What are you using it for? Production or gaming. Or bit of both, in which case which one more frequently?

IMO a 7700k at stock (4.5ghz turbo maintained) with an undervolt will keep temps lower and maintain lower audio levels under load. And should handle everything you throw at it. The 5820k has a much lower entry clock speed and has a slower IPC as well.. So you really need to consider your use case scenario.

Me? I'd go the 7700k. But that's me. :p

EDIT:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1826?vs=1320

5820k barely wins in Cinebench.. The clock speed differential contributes here. But gives you a general idea as well.

The 5820k will be cooler running out of the box, but assuming you OC I think temps are less of your issue, and more about what's going to work better.
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I wanted to use it 80% Games/HTPC and 20% Photo/Video (Non Professional) level work.

The thought was to build something with grunt for both.

Although, it seems that without overclocking the 5820, I might be wasting cash. Im also not too sure how well this Dynatron T318 will cool a OC 5820k anyways...
 
maven1975 said:
I wanted to use it 80% Games/HTPC and 20% Photo/Video (Non Professional) level work.

The thought was to build something with grunt for both.

Although, it seems that without overclocking the 5820, I might be wasting cash. Im also not too sure how well this Dynatron T318 will cool a OC 5820k anyways...
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7700k sounds like the goods to me! If you haven't already got them, the 7700 non k may even be an option as someone mentioned above.. 4.2ghz turbo is still plenty for everything.. Runs cooler and in turn, quieter in theory than the 7700k. Also able to be undervolted. I personally wouldn't bother with X99.
 
ReaperX22 said:
7700k sounds like the goods to me! If you haven't already got them, the 7700 non k may even be an option as someone mentioned above.. 4.2ghz turbo is still plenty for everything.. Runs cooler and in turn, quieter in theory than the 7700k. Also able to be undervolted. I personally wouldn't bother with X99.
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I will stick with the 7700k if I can keep it cool at stock.

Might as well get the higher frequency.

Unless I'm missing something
 
dondan said:
Update:

A4-SFX v.2.0 and window kits will be available in may 2017 on Kickstarter!


Because I have so many interests on that case, I will do a second Kickstarter campaign for version 2.0 end of May 2017. Also the window kit will be available in this campaign. If you already have a spot on Caseking or Overclockers.uk don't worry you will also get the version 2.0. But my resellers aren’t able to make a order that everyone will get a case, so I will be on Kickstarter again to give everybody the chance to get an A4-SFX case.

I think this will your last chance to get an 100% guaranteed spot for an A4-SFX, because I will focus on a new project after this and maybe only a few will find a way on retail market in 2018.(The new project will not be finished before end 2018)

The price for the A4-SFX v 2.0 will the identical to 2016.

Regards
Daniel
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Hi Daniel

The new project after A4-SFX v2 that you mention, will that be another PC case? Are you able to provide details on you next project?

In terms of the A4-SFX case, for a hi-end gaming PC rig, do you have a component list that you could recommend for build?

Thanks
D
 
The new project after A4-SFX v2 that you mention, will that be another PC case? Are you able to provide details on you next project?
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Yes it will be a itx case. I will give you more information in summer 2017.


In terms of the A4-SFX case, for a hi-end gaming PC rig, do you have a component list that you could recommend for build?
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Here are recomendet configurations (waiting on Ryzen ITX):

Pricebreaker: https://geizhals.eu/?cat=WL-678544
Performance: https://geizhals.eu/?cat=WL-678542
High-End: https://geizhals.eu/?cat=WL-677321
Enthusiast: https://geizhals.eu/?cat=WL-677324
 
So since I have been waiting for M-itx boards to come out for AM4. I have been looking at undervolting for the 1800X.

Then I came across this:

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Left side is volts, Top is speed in mhz and the numbers throughout are in watts.

If I can lock in a high of 3.7 ghz @ 1.1 volts, I would be happy with the 79 watts useage.

I will probably first just start out undervolting without changing any speeds to see how my chip does.
 
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Has anyone found a good replacement power button/switch yet? If so, would you mind sharing, please?
 
Can I get your 2 cents on Dynatron T318 versus Cooltek LP53?
What i can gather it seems Dynatron has more mass?
 
pedrofan said:
I have a little project in hands, I'm planning on getting liquid cooling inside a4-sfx.

The goal is to fit it in 47mm of total height.

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Notes:

· Extra milimeters are used for the cpu block mount, so no milimeters left,
· Using a naked cpu may save 1 or 2 mm more.
· Inserting the fan in the rad bezel may save another 1 or 2 mm or simply using a gpu fan.
· Cutting the rads metal bezel may save another 1 or 2 mm (or fitting silversonte 22mm rad)



What do you think??
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- IMO radiator is small (only 80mm?), but i have no experience with water coolers (afraid of water leaking);
- Tubing result with clearance too, maybe;
- Parts in one place:
Aluminum 80mm Radiator
CPU Pure Copper Waterblock 40x40 CPU1
CPU Bracket
Syscooling SC-300T Water Cooling Pump
Tubing 8x11mm?
Total = 60 bucks (without 80mm Fan)
Price for good heatpipe cooler;
- If you decide to use naked cpu (probably Intel), you need Die Guard;
- 80mm Slim Fan -> low airflow and static pressure.
 
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dondan said:
Update:

A4-SFX v.2.0 and window kits will be available in may 2017 on Kickstarter!


Because I have so many interests on that case, I will do a second Kickstarter campaign for version 2.0 end of May 2017. Also the window kit will be available in this campaign. If you already have a spot on Caseking or Overclockers.uk don't worry you will also get the version 2.0. But my resellers aren’t able to make a order that everyone will get a case, so I will be on Kickstarter again to give everybody the chance to get an A4-SFX case.

I think this will your last chance to get an 100% guaranteed spot for an A4-SFX, because I will focus on a new project after this and maybe only a few will find a way on retail market in 2018.(The new project will not be finished before end 2018)

The price for the A4-SFX v 2.0 will the identical to 2016.

Regards
Daniel
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Great to hear this. I assume you haven't locked down the v.2 features yet? Will the extra spot for a 92mm fan be there? Is it possible to source shorter USB internal cable from Lian Li? Or do they need to be ordered in bulk as well?
 
phoxx said:
So since I have been waiting for M-itx boards to come out for AM4. I have been looking at undervolting for the 1800X.

Then I came across this:

03.png


Left side is volts, Top is speed in mhz and the numbers throughout are in watts.

If I can lock in a high of 3.7 ghz @ 1.1 volts, I would be happy with the 79 watts useage.

I will probably first just start out undervolting without changing any speeds to see how my chip does.
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Oh and by the way, this was 100% on all cores.
 
Vlad502 said:
- IMO radiator is small (only 80mm?), but i have no experience with water coolers (afraid of water leaking);
- Tubing result with clearance too, maybe;
- Parts in one place:
Aluminum 80mm Radiator
CPU Pure Copper Waterblock 40x40 CPU1
CPU Bracket
Syscooling SC-300T Water Cooling Pump
Tubing 8x11mm?
Total = 60 bucks (without 80mm Fan)
Price for good heatpipe cooler;
- If you decide to use naked cpu (probably Intel), you need Die Guard;
- 80mm Slim Fan -> low airflow and static pressure.
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80mm rad is sufficient for cpu alone.
 
pedrofan said:
I have a little project in hands, I'm planning on getting liquid cooling inside a4-sfx.

The goal is to fit it in 47mm of total height.


I've found all the parts on internet!!:

· Rad: 106x81x25


It can be modified to be to be thinner by cutting the metal bezel, but it fits as it is.
https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...oling-system-devices/1358964_32263003396.html

There is a silverstone rad that's slimmer (22mm) and bigger that may fit over the ram using a smaller fan:

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=598&area=en


· Fan: 80x80x10mm fan


It fit as it is, but Im planning on cutting all the plastic housing to insert it in the metal bezel of the rad to save some mm for better breathing. Ty100 may fit also modding it.
Cc.porsche.com/icc_euro/ccCall.do?rt=1490866599&screen=1920x1080&userID=SGS&lang=sp&PARAM=parameter_internet_sp&ORDERTYPE=991110&MODELYEAR=2018&hookURL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.porsche.com%2fspain%2fmodelstart%2f



· Cpu Block: 40x40x10mm


I've found this block, it's made out of copper, so it can be used with liquid metal thermal paste. There are a few better 10mm cpu blocks out there, atached to liquid pump kits, but this one is sold separately,
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/For-...ics-GPU-Endothermic-Head-Hot/32687537364.html

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Total height: 25+10+10=45mm

It fits over the cpu




· Pump:

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The pump can fit below the cpu behing the power supply's cables.
I'm researching for the better pump, I think that anyone may fit.


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Notes:

· Extra milimeters are used for the cpu block mount, so no milimeters left,
· Using a naked cpu may save 1 or 2 mm more.
· Inserting the fan in the rad bezel may save another 1 or 2 mm or simply using a gpu fan.
· Cutting the rads metal bezel may save another 1 or 2 mm (or fitting silversonte 22mm rad)



What do you think??
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That CPU block won't transfer heat to water well so I don't think it'll work for a CPU. I think you'd be better off getting an Asetek 545LC. That link also shows you what a CPU block baseplate should look like for good thermal transfer. If the radiator and a slim fan don't fit over the motherboard in the Dan A4, they should fit in the same area you want to put a pump, in the 2.5" HD bay. The biggest disadvantage I can think of is that you'll be blowing hot air at the PSU and video card so there likely wouldn't be a net decrease in noise.
 
Nvidia truly is crazy, i havent had my 1080ti for 3 days and its already obsolete with the new Titan Xp full gp102 announced today....it sits at average of 96 degrees celcius....could you imagine that in the dancase???
 
David A4 said:
Nvidia truly is crazy, i havent had my 1080ti for 3 days and its already obsolete with the new Titan Xp full gp102 announced today....it sits at average of 96 degrees celcius....could you imagine that in the dancase???
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I wouldn't exactly call a 6-10% increase in performance for DOUBLE the already $600 pricetag something that makes your card obsolete, mate. :p

The Titan lineup is a bit of a joke - always has been. Always will be.
 
darksable said:
I wouldn't exactly call a 6-10% increase in performance for DOUBLE the already $600 pricetag something that makes your card obsolete, mate. :p

The Titan lineup is a bit of a joke - always has been. Always will be.
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In Canadian Pesos that is an insane price, i'll just pretend that it doesnt exist to make me feel better about my purchase.
 
If the new Xp can hit >90c°, I wonder whether this is any indication that the Ti has some headroom above it's 84° max.
 
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It's here!!!

I won't have my case until tomorrow, but this thing is GIGANTIC!!

Seriously doubt it's gonna fit :/

Still have my unopened Founders Edition Ti. I am really hoping this Strix will fit because I want a quieter solution.

MSI is having issues with their firmware locking the fans at 2000rpm. I remember seeing someone on this thread stating it was like a heater. That's probably the reason :)

UPDATE- Ugh!

After doing the math... it looks like the card is 7.5mm to wide. That stinks!!!!!
 
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maven1975 said:
View attachment 21296 It's here!!!

I won't have my case until tomorrow, but this thing is GIGANTIC!!

Seriously doubt it's gonna fit :/

Still have my unopened Founders Edition Ti. I am really hoping this Strix will fit because I want a quieter solution.

MSI is having issues with their firmware locking the fans at 2000rpm. I remember seeing someone on this thread stating it was like a heater. That's probably the reason :)
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Im fairly certain it wont fit, its a 2.5 slot card...
 
maven1975 said:
View attachment 21296 It's here!!!

I won't have my case until tomorrow, but this thing is GIGANTIC!!

Seriously doubt it's gonna fit :/

Still have my unopened Founders Edition Ti. I am really hoping this Strix will fit because I want a quieter solution.

MSI is having issues with their firmware locking the fans at 2000rpm. I remember seeing someone on this thread stating it was like a heater. That's probably the reason :)

UPDATE- Ugh!

After doing the math... it looks like the card is 7.5mm to wide. That stinks!!!!!
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Not to rub it in but why do the math after you get the card?
 
illram said:
Not to rub it in but why do the math after you get the card?
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HAHAHA!

I walked into the store and grabbed it immediately. It didn't dawn on me that it could possibly be to wide. I have used reference cards the last few years and am completely blown away with the size these things have gotten to be. Just INSANE!

So, as punishment and a treat to the community, I just ordered a Titan Xp.

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Stay tuned....
 
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maven1975 said:
HAHAHA!

I walked into the store and grabbed it immediately. It didn't dawn on me that it could possibly be to wide. I have used reference cards the last few years and am completely blown away with the size these things have gotten to be. Just INSANE!

So, as punishment and a treat to the community, I just ordered a Titan Xp.

Stay tuned....
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Awesome. Very interested to see how the Xp stacks up in this case.
 
I suspect you're going to be pleasantly surprised at how quiet reference coolers can be since Nvidia put so much work into them. (At least theu are before they're slapped on a 250W card at 90+ degrees - I'll be curious to see your take on it.)


Also, the picture of that box reminds me of when I was a kid and got the 9800GT. The box was HUGE, and then out came this kinda dinky little card...
 
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Jirbin said:
http://imgur.com/a/Qesf1

i managed to put NF-A4x10 on top of the board as exhaust, havent really tested yet if it helps with the temperature but i can noticeably feel the hot air blowing out, which i think is better than nothing. =)
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How loud is the fan, what speed does it drop down to at minimum? I'm thinking of using a couple of them for something... :)
 
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