DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

ubreakubuy2 said:
Looks like the new Asus strix won't fit :(. The thickness is 5.25cm

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I'm hoping either the MSI Gaming X or the EVGA ICX will be a workable substitute

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okay, im worried about my i7 7700. gets 88c when playing csgo with the noctua L9i....is this normal or there is something wrong with my cooler?
 
Has anyone in the US not had any updates to their tracking since feb 27? This is all I see

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I called USPS and they said they haven't received it yet from Deutsche Post. Anyone else hearing the same thing?

I contacted Dan but he said shipping takes 2-3 weeks. It has now been 3 weeks and it isn't even out of Germany.

This is shipping to Michigan if that matters at all.
 
OMG I´m shocked about those shipping times. (I´m from Germany.)

Why not just using DHL? Yes, it´s a bit more expensive but how can it need 2-3 weeks or even more to transfer such an item from Germany to the USA?

A regular DHL parcel with 500€ insurance to USA is 36,99€. Average shipping time is 10-12 days.
A registered airmail letter with 37,50€ insurance is 19,50€.

Why would you ship this valuable item with such a low insurance and long long shipping time just to save 17,49€?
If this gets lost or damaged you will be the fools.... Hopefully that story has a good ending for all of you..
 
Just spoke to overclockers UK. The gtx 1080TI (non FE) won'the be available until April. They weren't able to specify beginning or end of April either.....
 
Hey, has anyone tried to fit the Thermalright AXP100H in the case ? The height without a fan in the top is 51mm, so maybe it will fit with 4mm motherboard standoffs ?

I really hope it fits, because it's a slightly better version than the regular AXP100, and looks like it doesn't require any modding to fit a fan below.
 
Jbob06 said:
Has anyone in the US not had any updates to their tracking since feb 27? This is all I see

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I called USPS and they said they haven't received it yet from Deutsche Post. Anyone else hearing the same thing?

I contacted Dan but he said shipping takes 2-3 weeks. It has now been 3 weeks and it isn't even out of Germany.

This is shipping to Michigan if that matters at all.
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That seems normal for shipping this product to the US. They pretty much don't update it until they deliver it for whatever reason. USPS sucks for stuff coming outside the US.

I just ordered something for my car yesterday from Romania, and in less than a day it's already in the US via DHL.
 
Jbob06 said:
Has anyone in the US not had any updates to their tracking since feb 27? This is all I see

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I called USPS and they said they haven't received it yet from Deutsche Post. Anyone else hearing the same thing?

I contacted Dan but he said shipping takes 2-3 weeks. It has now been 3 weeks and it isn't even out of Germany.

This is shipping to Michigan if that matters at all.
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I'm in the same boat. (San Francisco.) I bet you the USPS person you talked to just told you that based on looking at the tracking that you are looking at, though. As we have seen from people here, it appears the tracking for these packages is not updated for some reason.
 
illram said:
I'm in the same boat. (San Francisco.) I bet you the USPS person you talked to just told you that based on looking at the tracking that you are looking at, though. As we have seen from people here, it appears the tracking for these packages is not updated for some reason.
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Bay Area here - my case arrived yesterday with no updates from beyond the "origin post is preparing" message. I just checked it today, and it still doesn't even say it was ever delivered.
 
barvis said:
Bay Area here - my case arrived yesterday with no updates from beyond the "origin post is preparing" message. I just checked it today, and it still doesn't even say it was ever delivered.
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Now thats scary. I'm on day 22, part of first shipment that went out on the 17th, and still no updates. If I had updates I wouldn't care, but I have no clue where it is at this point when people started getting there's last monday.
 
MintCondition said:
Hey, has anyone tried to fit the Thermalright AXP100H in the case ? The height without a fan in the top is 51mm, so maybe it will fit with 4mm motherboard standoffs ?

I really hope it fits, because it's a slightly better version than the regular AXP100, and looks like it doesn't require any modding to fit a fan below.
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I transplanted my 5820K X99 ITX system into the Dan A4 yesterday and a AXP100H Muscle cooler didn't fit, even with 4mm standoffs. It's a few millimeters too tall and when I bent the heatpipes to make it shorter, the blades of the underslung fan started rubbing on the retention screws. This is with Thermalright's Narrow ILM kit, which requires standoffs that raises the height of the cooler. As seen in this thread, Meccabolix didn't have the same issues with a LGA 1151 system.

I did a quick and dirty, 10 minute Intel XTU benchmark of the AXP100H with the side panel off with a Noctua NF-A9x14, a Scythe Slipstream SY1212SL12H, and Thermalright TY 100, all blowing out. The Noctua was the quietest but hottest, topping out at 80C, the Scythe was louder but livable and hit 75C, while the Thermalright was a bit quieter than the Scythe and cooled best with 71C. Maybe a draw-through orientation of the fans would have worked better, but I stopped testing after confirming the cooler was too tall.

I switched back to the Dynatron T318, paired it with the TY100 fan, and after 10 minutes of XTU it only reached 65C. So it's a clear winner temperature-wise and it fits. The TY100 fan is a gem too - I can barely tell that the computer is on at idle and it's easily masked by speakers or headphones during load.

EDIT: Added more details to make it clear this is an X99 system and as Meccabolix shows, it fits with LGA1151 motherboards.
 
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MintCondition said:
Hey, has anyone tried to fit the Thermalright AXP100H in the case ? The height without a fan in the top is 51mm, so maybe it will fit with 4mm motherboard standoffs ?

I really hope it fits, because it's a slightly better version than the regular AXP100, and looks like it doesn't require any modding to fit a fan below.
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I did a few tests, mine fit in perfectly when i used 4mm standoffs and no I/O shield. i didn't bend the pipes at all, i used the TY-100 fan that came with the cooler.

Meccabolix said:
Thermals and noise test with the Thermalright AXP-100H MUSCLE with its TY-100 fan on a 6700k @ 4.4Ghz:



Idle temps:

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Prime 95 temps:

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Idle speed: 810 RPM

Full speed: 2500 RPM

Temps are about as good at the C7 with the C7 fan, but not quite as good as the C7 with the TY-100 fan.

But in low usage its SILENT! and at max fan speed its pretty quiet, its got the lowest pitch of any of the other combinations i've tested (probably due to the fan being so far behind the side cover and underneath the heatsink), so it's much easier on the ears.

The axp-100H is ever so slightly too tall (as others have pointed out) with the normal standoffs, i have ordered a number of different length standoffs to see what the ideal standoff length I need is (as people have also suggested) . The side panel very nearly fits on with all 4 clips as it is.

I am sticking with this combo for now as it's quieter than the rest, i ordered a nexus last week but it may take a while to arrive, i will test it with the TY-100 and the other fans if people want me to, I am also waiting on the LP53 + NF a9x14 which should come soon.
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Jbob06 said:
Has anyone in the US not had any updates to their tracking since feb 27? This is all I see

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I called USPS and they said they haven't received it yet from Deutsche Post. Anyone else hearing the same thing?

I contacted Dan but he said shipping takes 2-3 weeks. It has now been 3 weeks and it isn't even out of Germany.

This is shipping to Michigan if that matters at all.
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I'm in Missouri and still seeing the same information on USPS as you are.
 
wanako said:
Just got my A4 in the mail today! Los Angeles area is getting them now.
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I'm jealous but WTF that is messed up. I'm in the mid west and my tracking hasn't updated since German custom's notified USPS. I figured the delivery would have been chronological from east coast to west coast. It's mid March now. I'm growing unhappy about the time it's taking to get this in my hands.
 
Still waiting for mine too (same update as other people with no update since feb 27). I am in Mountain View and surprised that some people around the bay already has theirs.
 
Build commencing this weekend. It should be interesting as I've gone:
7700k
Cryorig c7
4mm standoffs
z270i Strix
1080 Strix
M2 600p 256 boot drive
M2 600p 512 secondary

The question I have is I was thinking of putting the smaller boot drive on the back of the mobo and then the larger drive on the front with the heatsink. Reasoning behind this is that I'll mostly be stressing the larger drive when gaming, but am not sure it really matters. Any opinions would be great!
 
sazerac23 said:
Build commencing this weekend. It should be interesting as I've gone:
7700k
Cryorig c7
4mm standoffs
z270i Strix
1080 Strix
M2 600p 256 boot drive
M2 600p 512 secondary

The question I have is I was thinking of putting the smaller boot drive on the back of the mobo and then the larger drive on the front with the heatsink. Reasoning behind this is that I'll mostly be stressing the larger drive when gaming, but am not sure it really matters. Any opinions would be great!
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I plan on doing the same thing for the same reasoning. Albeit with different drives. I don't think there will be any issues.
 
tviceman said:
I'm jealous but WTF that is messed up. I'm in the mid west and my tracking hasn't updated since German custom's notified USPS. I figured the delivery would have been chronological from east coast to west coast. It's mid March now. I'm growing unhappy about the time it's taking to get this in my hands.
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Im in Kansas, I got my case early last week.
 
In Cali, still haven't receive my case and I saw a few here already got it =\. Been no case for about 3 months now. I hate using screw driver to power on my computer.
 
Ozymandias said:
I transplanted my 5820K X99 ITX system into the Dan A4 yesterday and a AXP100H Muscle cooler didn't fit, even with 4mm standoffs. It's a few millimeters too tall and when I bent the heatpipes to make it shorter, the blades of the underslung fan started rubbing on the retention screws. This is with Thermalright's Narrow ILM kit, which requires standoffs that raises the height of the cooler. As seen in this thread, Meccabolix didn't have the same issues with a LGA 1151 system.

I did a quick and dirty, 10 minute Intel XTU benchmark of the AXP100H with the side panel off with a Noctua NF-A9x14, a Scythe Slipstream SY1212SL12H, and Thermalright TY 100, all blowing out. The Noctua was the quietest but hottest, topping out at 80C, the Scythe was louder but livable and hit 75C, while the Thermalright was a bit quieter than the Scythe and cooled best with 71C. Maybe a draw-through orientation of the fans would have worked better, but I stopped testing after confirming the cooler was too tall.

I switched back to the Dynatron T318, paired it with the TY100 fan, and after 10 minutes of XTU it only reached 65C. So it's a clear winner temperature-wise and it fits. The TY100 fan is a gem too - I can barely tell that the computer is on at idle and it's easily masked by speakers or headphones during load.

EDIT: Added more details to make it clear this is an X99 system and as Meccabolix shows, it fits with LGA1151 motherboards.
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Ozymandias, I've been doing some benchamrking with the t318 and 5820k and I've determined that with the fan turned upsidedown in "PULL" configuration temperature lowers by 5º/9º. Have you tried?
 
krcm0209 said:
He said 7700 not 7700K.
I have a 7700 (non-K) in my case with an L9i and while running stress tests the temp goes between 77-89ish Celsius. I think the fluctuation is due to my fan curve.
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what app did you use for stress test?
 
okay, i decided to get the cryorig c7 heatsink and replace the fan with noctua's. but how do i attach the noctua fan on the cryorigs heatsink? ziptie?
 
pedrofan said:
Ozymandias, I've been doing some benchamrking with the t318 and 5820k and I've determined that with the fan turned upsidedown in "PULL" configuration temperature lowers by 5º/9º. Have you tried?
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I haven't tried that. Just to be clear, is that with the heatsink in the case or open air? I know a lot of people are still waiting for their A4...
 
tviceman said:
I'm jealous but WTF that is messed up. I'm in the mid west and my tracking hasn't updated since German custom's notified USPS. I figured the delivery would have been chronological from east coast to west coast. It's mid March now. I'm growing unhappy about the time it's taking to get this in my hands.
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Don't worry, I'm in LA as well and no update since it transferred to the Frankfurt airport on Feb 27th either. Doesn't seem like there's any sort of geographical logic to when/how these get processed into the US. While USPS isn't the greatest service, I order plenty of stuff from ex-US and this package definitely has the worst behavior (no updates, serious lag) of any I've seen lately. Even stuff from Asia gets a status change when entering the US, and then is tracked pretty reliably from port-of-entry to me.

I know it's been said repeatedly that Dan is a one man ... man, this is a Kickstarter so our expectations should be low, etc etc, but not sorting out drop ship logistics directly from Taiwan has significantly dampened my enthusiasm for Dan's ability to launch (not design) a product. Background to this comment: I work in product development, and in my experience ability to execute across all domains is 100% more important (and 100% harder) than coming up with the original design/idea when it comes to creating a successful product. It's definitely not something I always get right either, so hopefully we all learn from our mistakes so we can make bigger ones next time. Having said all that, much respect to Dan's initiative for taking this on as he has.
 
My A4 was delivered today! (SF) Tracking finally updated about 5am this morning saying the local post office received the parcel from DHL. Just another data point... now, guess I can't put off deciding on a cooler much longer.
 
Well i finally bought and put together my system this afternoon.

Couldn't install the Cryorig C7 using the backplate as it seems to be incompatible with the Asus Strix Z270I. Luckily they included washers.... but my temperatures seem to be pretty bad (?) sitting in the low-mid 40's on idle and under stress testing it throttles pretty much straight away (Intel 7700K at stock clocks). What have other people experienced with the 7700k? I might try reapplication of the thermal paste tomorrow but so far pretty disappointed with the noise and temps from the cooler.

Other thing I noticed was the bottom of the heatsink pushes up against the RAM module, installation is super tight, pretty much had to jam it in there.

Specs:
Intel 7700K (stock) w/ Cryorig C7
Asus Strix Z270I
Gigabyte 1080Ti FE
GSkill Trident Z RGB 16GB 3200
Samsung 960 EVO 500GB m.2
Corsair SF600


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