DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

Discussion in 'Small Form Factor Systems' started by dondan, Dec 30, 2013.

  1. CknSalad

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    I'm waiting until Intel coffeelake comes out to build my Dan A4. I hope that the AMS 1600X delivers better for gaming.
     
  2. mcheddadi

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    Sf450has Ben tested here and showed to be able to go 500w no prob. High quality Japanese caps. You can run a Titan x with 7700k no prob.
     
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    Hello guys,
    By now, we have 111 submitted results: https://do cs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aZfTysWc4dtJC33qkLCjLkhPnzVLtbCtjpxoZeT92ZA/edit#gid=0
    I just wanted to thank you for your participation.

    After all that testing I am curious at which setting you let your CPU run. Here is my setup:
    i5-3570k @ 4300 Mhz / NH-L9i @ max 1900rpm (15°C below Tjmax)
     
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    I think the CPU and GPU don't have a Problem with this. I am just curious if isolating the PSU with e.g. foam would help to keep it cool and quiet
     
  5. HopkinsTea

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    !!! I cannot for the life of me decide which one to get. Cryorig C7 or Noctua LH-L9I!!!
    The TLDR for this forum has been that the Noctua is a lot quieter, but Cryorig looks more aesthetic/better color (at least in my opinion) and cheaper.

    Can you guys please help me decide, because for the love of god, I personally can't. Cheers.

    (Note, I have a i5-6600)
     
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  6. dondan

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    Lp53 + A9x14 fan. ;)
     
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  7. Eingang

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    Cons:
    - HDMI 1.4b / DVI ---- No DP, no HDMI 2.0
    - M.2 16GB/s = PCIx 2x ----- Why not 4x ?
    - No U.2, SATAx, TB3
    - Just 4x SATA



     
  8. HopkinsTea

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    dondan or better yet, I'll just buy the C7 since its fairly cheap, and just wait a year for your DAN HSLP-48 :shame:
     
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    fix the link i can't even handle seeing this anymore
     
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  10. Shaav

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    Don't buy the C7. It's stupidly loud.

    LP53+NF-A9x14 has the best performence
    NH-L9i is slightly worse but the setup is far cleaner.
    If you don't want to invest that 'much' money, use the boxed cooler. That one will do the job for now.
     
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  11. krcm0209

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    Has anyone extrapolated out the expected dimensions of the EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 card to see if it should fit in the case?
     
  12. mathijs159

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    Easy there, you can't even buy it yet.
     
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    It is the only way we can actually copy the link, bookmark etc. If it is full link, then you would we the tables etc. and you wouldn't be able to open it outside of [H] nor copy link or anythinf.
     
  14. Meccabolix

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    You could just link it like this:

    LINK

    By highlighting a word and clicking the link icon, then copying and pasting the link.
     
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  15. Diverge

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    I got some pretty good results with my nexus low, modified fan, and motherboard heatsinks. I put the data in the spreadsheet.

    https://goo.gl/photos/EqeLsskUiFC1B7HaA

    Edit: Not shown in the pictures... I used the backplate from my Noctua NH-C12P, with some longer M3 bolts from home depot. The stock Nexus heatsink mounting brackets leave a lot to be desired.. To even mount it to my motheboard with all the stock hardware, my motherboard would have been flexing severely. The backplate and longer screws cured that issue.
     
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    Check the kettle or some of her other appliances for removable power chords.
     
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    M.2 is 32gb 4x.

    how many more sata do you need?
     
  18. Meccabolix

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    That board in the picture is the x370GTN, which supports full 32Gbps, i think Eingang may be confused as to which chipset the motherboard in the picture is, i think he mistook it for the B350GTN

    just in case anyone may make the mistake of buying the B350 chipset board, it only supports 16 gigabits max. if you want to use a very very fast m.2, go for the x370GTN board.

    There are 8 bits in a byte.

    so 32 gigabits is 4 gigabytes per second theoretical speed limit for m.2s

    16 gigabits would only be 2 gigabytes per second, so m.2 ssd's like the 950 pro or 960 pro/evo could never hit their true speeds because they run at 2.5 gigabytes per second or higher. they simply don't have enough pci-e lanes to utilize to reach their true potential speeds on the B350GTN version of that board.
     
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    https://gfycat.com/SingleSpottedAracari

    I got the Corsair lighting kit, and honestly, I think it was worth the extra. I can set the lights to correspond to any temperature sensor (even my 960 evo), which was actually useful when testing. The lighting strips are the same length as the actual case, and the box is super tiny.

    I am definitely going to switch to the SFX (non
    -L) Corsair PSU. There is no room underneath.

    Edit:. Should I not post this here? I can't remember
     
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  20. sungho

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    Has anyone tried or trying watercooling GPU or CPU in A4-SFX?
     
  21. SideSwiped

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    I was planning to do asus aura setup with the z270...but it only syncs with the cpu temperature. The other sensor temps are grabbed by the corsair application?
     
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    Check the TV, or any other device she has connected to the TV. Maybe she has a music system? Check all the things!
     
  23. SideSwiped

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    Also did you only buy the 14.99 light kit? Thanks
     
  24. pedrofan

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    Yes, there is a mod in this thread with external radiator.
     
  25. M4vr1c1o

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    Just wanted to leave my build here :) Thank you so much Dan, from all the ITX cases i built in the past this was the most easy and awesome of them all. I've been waiting for this project since June 2015 and let me tell you it was worth the wait. Now comes the planning part to make a total portable rig. Probably will do a monitor based on a laptop screen, thought of buying GeChic but the price i think it's just too much...

    Hope you enjoyed it :)

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  26. Itchy_Lettuces

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    My case just got delivered today!! For other in the US I'm located in Utah. I got silver case #1350. I must admit that it's difficult to appreciate the size of the case until you've got one in your hands. Now to just start purchasing my components.... I also am going to attempt to do a custom tempered-glass side panel mod. I had the idea before I realized that DAN was working on a plexi-version. I plan to do mine in the same manner. I'm hoping to make it so I can have additional clearance to put in a slightly taller CPU cooler. I'm currently considering the Noctua NH-L9x65 or SilverStone AR06.
     
  27. Wazzuppi

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    People who have the noctua nhl9i what are your temps like?

    I got 83c in 1 or 2 cores for a few seconds now and then during some installing and general task on windows. Have tried the noctua paste and thermal grizzly kryonaut both sit around that. Am I doing anything wrong? Xtu package hits 90c during benchmarking

    Also just checking does every SF450 owner hear a sharp clank when you turn on or off the PC?
     
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  28. CknSalad

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    From what I read, you are supposed to hear a rather loud click noise when the psu turns on or off.
     
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  29. dominathan

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    Yeah, it grabs all of the temps. I have the CPU side showing the SSD and CPU temps, and the other side the GPU temp.

    It's pretty awesome. It can even set everything to bright red when it hits a threshold. So even when it's rainbow, I can know if I'm in danger.

    I got the $60 kit
     
  30. Shaav

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    Didn't know that feature. Thanks!
     
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    If that is the case, great. But having had a PSUs die on me and take parts of my system down with it, I'll skip.
     
  32. Eingang

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    The AXP-100H Muscle is not usable with a ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITX/ac.

    The delivered fan is too big to fit in the mainboard.

    To use a Noctua NF-A9x14 instead is only possible when the heatpipes are bended a little bit. Otherwise the fix plate touches the rotor. But bending increases the height a few mm and the case can´t be closed anymore. (4mm spacers)

    :cry:

    Just ordered LP53.... since C7 is too weak....
     
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  33. Eingang

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    Absolutely true, I´m sorry. Thanks!
     
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    I assume you are running a 7700K? NH-L9 will struggle to keep it cool. You can try to undervolt your cpu (while staying at stock clocks) to try to keep the heat down as a first step, but IMO the only way to use the nh-l9i with the 7700K at stock with what i consider to be sufficient margin is to delid the processor
     
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    @ 4.4GHz on my 6700K, I'm hitting a max of 75C w/ prime95 setup as outline in the spreadsheet. But it's mostly around 70C. This is w/ a nexus low-7000 R2 cooler, and 120 x 120 x 20mm fan. I already have a rockit delid tool, so I just ordered some CLU. Hopefully my max drops to 60's or below after delid.
     
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    going against the flow here, but, has anyone use the case with the stock intel cooler? How's the noise and temp?
     
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  37. pendragon1

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    all your temps belong to corsair!

    that's what I did too. set it to gigabyte blue to match then if it hits high enough it shifts to red to warn me. very handy!
     
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    That's very impressive! Very interested in the delid temps when you get there. What ram are you using?
    I got a Cooljag Falcon II, Thermolab LP53 and Thermalright AXP-100 full copper, but still in the process of buying a new rig and hopefully do some temperature tests soon.
     
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    Thats not bad, with a i7 6700 (non-k), I'm hitting a max of 72C (delid, C7 cooler, 4mm standoffs) w/ prime95
     
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