DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

So I'm currently thinking about getting 2 of these https://www.digikey.com/product-det...y-amp-connectors/1513472-5/A107425-ND/3915254
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And sticking them on the back lip buy the gpu. There should be enough room for 2 of them (keeping in mind the Keep Away area) there, and they should stick out less than the GPU lip
 
prava said:
What makes you think that the SF450 won't get as warm? They will dissipate the same heat, and they will absorb the same heat from the same system. They should show the same behaviour.
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The sf450 has been suggested to have a less aggressive fan profile.

My psu currently is not able to have semi-passive function whilst sitting on the table outside the case in idle (<50w 20 degree ambient). It is cool to the touch.
 
ManaNeko said:
/watch?v=JZPRe81cLmc

I was looking at this to find an original solution. This reviewer says it's really bad.
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Is this from personal experience?

If so, what is the basis of this statement and on what configuration?

I have one on order, and with the 4mm standoffs, you can actually even fit a duel 100mm Scythe 12mm fans as a push-pull solution (one underneath just fits) . Would be a tight fit with a 1mm air gap to the side panel, so outer fan would need to run at a slower speed to prevent turbulence and noise increase.

Love to hear you feedback.
 
dondan said:
It dorsn't matter it will work in both position.
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Thanks for the answer, what position do you recommend/use?
One more thing, if you take feedback for the future version of the case - would you take in consideration putting a headphone jack in the from of the case on the future 1.1 version? i was one of the people that voted against that in the early stage of the current case version (the strawpool) but now i'm starting to see the benefit of it, the wire is getting in the way of my hand and mouse. I would be so much cleaner with a headphone jack! I don't think it will hurt the aesthetics having a small round hole next to the USB port.
And a GPU bracket cover would be nice.

What you guys think?

Just my 2 cents :)
 
Woxys said:
Thanks for the answer, what position do you recommend/use?
One more thing, if you take feedback for the future version of the case - would you take in consideration putting a headphone jack in the from of the case on the future 1.1 version? i was one of the people that voted against that in the early stage of the current case version (the strawpool) but now i'm starting to see the benefit of it, the wire is getting in the way of my hand and mouse. I would be so much cleaner with a headphone jack! I don't think it will hurt the aesthetics having a small round hole next to the USB port.
And a GPU bracket cover would be nice.

What you guys think?

Just my 2 cents :)
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Nah, don't need it. Plug it in the back and route the cabel.
 
HoodedHusky said:
ManaNeko said:
/watch?v=JZPRe81cLmc
I was looking at this to find an original solution. This reviewer says it's really bad.
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Is this from personal experience?

If so, what is the basis of this statement and on what configuration?

I have one on order, and with the 4mm standoffs, you can actually even fit a duel 100mm Scythe 12mm fans as a push-pull solution (one underneath just fits) . Would be a tight fit with a 1mm air gap to the side panel, so outer fan would need to run at a slower speed to prevent turbulence and noise increase.

Love to hear you feedback.
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Is this from personal experience?

ManaNeko said:
This reviewer says it's really bad.
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Did you watch the video?

The reviewer does his tests on a test-bench for a Sentry system. It's not the same system, but the environmental restrictions are so similar, I don't think it matters. The Noctua NH-L9i beats th ID Cooling VC45 in every way that matters except for price which is region specific.
 
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I think it was late 2015 when an [H] contacted ID Cooling because he found it to be lacking. He got a response from the company stating that they will release a new revision with updated thermals. They haven't done that and I don't expect them to any time soon. I've not seen a single case where the VC45 beats the l9i.
 
Henrik_s-a said:
The sf450 has been suggested to have a less aggressive fan profile.

My psu currently is not able to have semi-passive function whilst sitting on the table outside the case in idle (<50w 20 degree ambient). It is cool to the touch.
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Well, with the fan test we agreed that with airflow the fan does stop... which means that the problem isn't caused by the load you apply but the operating temperatures of the psu.

So, less agressive does not apply here, because you simply are above the temperature threshold, and I would bet money that the other mother will have exactly the same threshold. All in all, it isn't working in semi-passive because it can't dissipate the heat it creates due to the absolute lack of airflow.

I don't know, maybe it is worth to send an email to Corsair to see what they say about it.
 
prava said:
Well, with the fan test we agreed that with airflow the fan does stop... which means that the problem isn't caused by the load you apply but the operating temperatures of the psu.

So, less agressive does not apply here, because you simply are above the temperature threshold, and I would bet money that the other mother will have exactly the same threshold. All in all, it isn't working in semi-passive because it can't dissipate the heat it creates due to the absolute lack of airflow.

I don't know, maybe it is worth to send an email to Corsair to see what they say about it.
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I have already contacted them but no response yet. As I mentioned, the psu sits on a table with plenty air around. I find it ridiculous to advertise a product with semi-passive function if it only applies if it gets airflow from somewhere else.
 
ManaNeko said:
Is this from personal experience?



Did you watch the video?

The reviewer does his tests on a test-bench for a Sentry system. It's not the same system, but the environmental restrictions are so similar, I don't think it matters. The Noctua NH-L9i beats th ID Cooling VC45 in every way that matters except for price which is region specific.
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Yes, I have seen the video, but this only covers the IS-VC45

However Ozymandias post had mentioned the ID Cooling IS-50. A different cooler design completely. Might still be crap, but will find out this weekend!
 
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dominathan said:
The little tiny ones will only do 2.4Ghz wifi, so no AC.

I'm referring to ones like these, so I don't have to have any antenna hanging out
https://www.digikey.com/product-det...y-amp-connectors/2118060-1/A107430-ND/3915263
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/taoglas-limited/FXP830.24.0100B/931-1318-ND/4849884
https://www.digikey.com/product-det...y-amp-connectors/1513472-5/A107425-ND/3915254
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Which one of the above will do full AC wifi and BT 4.1? Can you attach/affix those internally inside the case?
 
All of them should work for AC but you will need more than one, inside the case won't work (or work very poorly) since the case is a pretty perfect RF shield
 
David A4 said:
I have a really really curious question!, how much space in millimeters is there saved between the GPU block and the side OF the case??? I really gotta know the answer!
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Approx. 24mm between the EK waterblock and the edge of the case.


In other news, I had to remount my block (it was off a bit) and my thermals are now as follows:

Ambient 21 C.

i7 4790K OC'd to 4.6 GHz @ 1.3v:
@ idle: cores are 20-22 C.
@ 100% load: the cores range from 66-74 C. Minor jumps up as high as 76 C on one of the cores.

GTX 980ti OC'd to 1500 MHz clock, 7012 MHz memory:
@ idle: 21 C.
@ 100% load: 39 C.

My cooling solution has a D5 vario at setting 3 and a 480mm x 60mm thick rad with fans at 600rpm (can't even hear them a foot away from me).
All in all I'm quite happy with this. Cooling could be better if I ramped up the fans but I like peace and quiet haha.
 
XstreamHard said:
All of them should work for AC but you will need more than one, inside the case won't work (or work very poorly) since the case is a pretty perfect RF shield
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I was looking at pictures online to even look for a place to stick those flag-style antenna (they have adhesive on the back), but this thing is ALL METAL. Could stick the flags on the outside of the case, but.... then you have stickers on the back of your case. I also don't know if they would work when connected to metal. That may mess with them. The small black boxes should be fine, since the spec says they were designed to be attached to metal.
 
So is there anyone else from the US without any indication that a case is coming? Have I just been skipped over?
 
Deepcoiler said:
So is there anyone else from the US without any indication that a case is coming? Have I just been skipped over?
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That's strange. My country is in the bottom five in the list but I already received my shipment number from DHL. Though, the status is still 'The instruction data for this shipment have been provided by the sender to DHL electronically' up until now.
 
raazman said:
Are we already done with US? Because I have been skipped over as well if that's the case.
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I'm in the U.S. and my case seems to have just arrived at an international airport in Germany and the tracking number was just loaded into the USPS system.
 
Now with the 1080ti out i hope that MSI makes one that is compatible as well with the A4.
Anybody tested a MSI 1070/1080 in the A4 yet? (with the low profile power connectors?)
 
Deepcoiler said:
So is there anyone else from the US without any indication that a case is coming? Have I just been skipped over?
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Nope, there are quite a few of us who hace beem left in the dark. Our $280 case (shipping included) is still hanging out with dondan.
 
Jspr said:
Check your spam-foler. :) I had to check mine, and there it was.
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Not there.

I don't even know what the status of my order is. I have no emails to account for what is going on. I have no updates in this forum other than build ideas from other backers. I guess I just have to wait and hope that nothing goes wrong with the shipment.
 
My last email was sent out on June 30 2016. This is why I've been a little anxious about the whole process. I've been here every day at least 5 times to see if there are any updates. It sucks to have to wait this long and have to dig around in this forum for bits and pieces of information.

The last email that I got was to let me know that my info to include address and email have been changed. I changed my email address to the one that I use on a daily basis just to stop receiving emails. I've checked the spam email box and nothing. I check kickstarter and the the updates are vague. I check here and it's even vaguer.

But! What can I do about it? I messaged dan cases on Kickstarter but again, one person to deal with 1570 backers...he's gotta be backed up. Not to mention that he has a full time job. It would've been nice if he asked for some help. Maybe give out a case to someone who can take care of all of the questions or something.
 
Ca11idus said:
My last email was sent out on June 30 2016. This is why I've been a little anxious about the whole process. I've been here every day at least 5 times to see if there are any updates. It sucks to have to wait this long and have to dig around in this forum for bits and pieces of information.

The last email that I got was to let me know that my info to include address and email have been changed. I changed my email address to the one that I use on a daily basis just to stop receiving emails. I've checked the spam email box and nothing. I check kickstarter and the the updates are vague. I check here and it's even vaguer.

But! What can I do about it? I messaged dan cases on Kickstarter but again, one person to deal with 1570 backers...he's gotta be backed up. Not to mention that he has a full time job. It would've been nice if he asked for some help. Maybe give out a case to someone who can take care of all of the questions or something.
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If that's the case, then something have gone wrong - we recieve all of the kickstarter updates as mails.
 
I also didn't receive my shipping email. But I contacted Dan on kickstarter and he gave me the tracking link from DHL after a day. :)

Now the case has been sitting in it's box for a few weeks waiting for AM4 mitx boards. Seems like I'll have to wait a little longer though. Can't wait to start building!
 
Jspr said:
If that's the case, then something have gone wrong - we recieve all of the kickstarter updates as mails.
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Tell me about it.

dondan I haven't gotten any emails since June 30 2016. Is there a way for me to get any updates and or emails or shippjng notifications and or a status on my case? I asked a question on the kickstarter recently but haven't heard anything.
 
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Ca11idus: The Hardforum thread is not the Kickstarter support forum. So i don't look every day in this thread. If you need your tracking link contact me like everybody else on Kickstarter. If you don't get a shipment confirmation mail maybe you entered a invalid email address in the Kickstarter survey. So please send me a valid email address over the Kickstarter message system.
 
David A4 said:
You guys think its possible to stuff 1 or 2 of these RADs in?
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Should fit in the bottom at the front (at least looking at the space with my sfx psu). You would likely need to cut the midplate to fit in the dual one if placing it at the bottom of the case.
 
Whoever recommended those stubby bluetooth/wifi antennas, they're awesome and shipped really fast. Range is great for bluetooth on Asus Strix Z270i. (just like the corded antenna that came with it) I'm trying to eliminate as many cables as possible in my work space. This will be clean for the DAN build.
 
jtcera said:
Whoever recommended those stubby bluetooth/wifi antennas, they're awesome and shipped really fast. Range is great for bluetooth on Asus Strix Z270i. (just like the corded antenna that came with it) I'm trying to eliminate as many cables as possible in my work space. This will be clean for the DAN build.
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Did you try to wifi range?
 
cooljag is shipping me the 115X bracket! They found some extras in the warehouse. That's my final cooler then.... until DAN finishes his and proves its worth.
 
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