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First custom loop excuse the phone pic.
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Why is the Cooljag Screenshot when the cpu isnt stressed anymore?
So the cooljag is only 6degrees cooler?
A made a couple changes to my CoolJag setup and got pretty good increases in performance. I was finally able to complete a 10 minute (actually did 15) Prime95 run while keeping my temps lower than the C7.
First, was that I realized that the cooler was basically oriented incorrectly in my existing case (the heat pipes were facing down) so I flipped my case over to reflect the correct orientation and to mirror the way it would be sitting in the A4. This caused a very noticeable drop in temps.
Second, I removed the IO area heatsink on the Strix Z270i and put in a TY-100 FAN. This dropped temps about 3C.
First comparison is 5 minute stress test with Intel XTU. Second set is 10 minutes of Prime95 blend (I did 15 minutes with the CoolJag though). Ignore the clock speeds in the screenshots. All tests were done @ 4.2Ghz.
Max temps are the thing to look at.
So is Thermal Grizzly the new hotness these days? I remember when Arctic Silver was all the rage. I thought I had some lying around when in put my Lp53 on, but used some old Noctua paste instead.
well guys, guess I got lucky and will be getting a FULL COPPER ultra limited cooler. more details soon
Just got my LP53, zip-tied the TY-100 fan onto it and ......
Idle temps:
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Prime 95 temps:
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Bloody hell ..... looks like the LP53 + TY-100 is in the lead so far in my tests! This is on my 6700K @4.4Ghz as usual.
I didn't even see it hit 86°C, must have only been for a split second, 99% of the time it was hovering between 81 and 83°C
This is with the 4mm standoffs and no I/O shield. i have used the same thermal paste on all of these tests btw, the Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, i applied it with the included spreader as per the instructions.
It's silent at idle and pretty quiet at full speed. It's actually a lower pitch when the side panel is on, but sounds more or less the same with the side panel both on and off, which is good. the 4mm standoffs may be helping with this as the fan is further away from the side panel than it would be without the shorter standoffs, therefore creating much less air turbulence.
Man i am jealous, seeing how good this tiny little copper cooler performs has me itching for one now lol
I'm wondering if the fins being copper has anything to do with the lower temps, its barely taller than the AR05 and cools much better, and that has copper direct contact heatpipes, the LP53 doesnt have direct contact heatpipes, doesn't look like it even needs them.
I'm hoping Dondan can do a fully copper cooler, the temps show that its far more efficient than aluminium, at least in this super small cooler range.
At this point I would like to ask someone who removed a heatsink from their STRIX to make a picture of the phases, that way I can confirm that they are arranged in the usual way.
Also, I would like to say that even these heatsinks are not really needed and you would add them more for the looks.
Heatsinks stripped within 30s of removing the z270i from the box
I'll bring the FLIR home again this weekend and take some measurements - based on what I saw on my current board, the PCH was the only component generating any heat of note aside from the CPU.
Speaking of all the cooling, what are the group's consensus on delid/relid? I have a 6700k with Cryorig C7 - despite the noise, temperatures are ok. However, lower is always nicer, especially as it results in lower RPMs.
I haven't seen it anywhere in the thread yet but it looks like the AMD Spire 95W cooler that comes with the Ryzen 1700 is 54mm tall so won't fit in the case. Obviously the 1700X and 1800X 140W cooler is larger @ 85mm tall.
http://digiworthy.com/2017/02/20/amd-ryzen-7-wraith-max-and-spire/
Going to be tough to find an ITX board and a cooler for the Ryzen.
Have you tried flipping the TY-100 fan to blow the air out of the motherboard?
Thanks for the pictures. Don't forget to put a bit of electrical tape onto the PCH to correct the emissivity (read for short explanation and good post by FLIR on how to correct it).
About the power design of this motherboard. It is certainly not a usual layout and I don't yet fully understand how exactly it works (I don't see enough MOSFETs for example). I am however pretty sure it is properly cooled and doesn't need a heatsink as long as there is some airflow and the case temperature isn't too high.
usual layout:
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Asus STRIX Z270I:
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So I delided i7 7700 (non-k). I am using cryorig c7 and there is a 10°C difference with side panel unmounted. When is side panel mounted, temps are higher, but noise from c7 is far worst.
But after 15 minutes of full load (side panel open) on cpu, temps are maxed to 80°C. On iddle, 36-40°C.
Bf1 fullhd maxed out - cpu temp is not going over 65°C (room temp: 21°C)
Meccabolix: I wonder what impact the 4mm standoffs will have on the C7 noise level, but especially pitch?
Not interested in temps as there will be only small changes, but the noise might change a lot. Interested as I, and I guess many others have the C7 and are wondering what our next move should be.
Cheers!
I second hoodedhusky..am VERY interested to see noise levels on the c7 with the 4mm standoffs..would you be able to indulge us meccabolix? (Am sure many others would find this useful as well)
OK so this post is going to be a long but very interesting one.
All tests are done on my 6700K @ 4.4Ghz with the LP53 and Noctua NF a-9x14 PWM fan
i unplugged the titan x pascal because sometimes it makes a little rumble when idle, and the NF a9x14 PWM is so quiet you can slightly hear the graphics card in the background, we don't want to hear that, we just want to hear the CPU fan.
i applied fresh thermal paste when i changed orientation of the cooler, the thermal paste i use is Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut.
The first test i did was with the LP53 heatpipes in a horizontal orientation. i used the 4mm standoffs and the a9x14 fan:
Idle temps:
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Prime 95 temps:
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Next test was the LP53 heatpipes in a horizontal orientation. i used the 7mm standoffs (the original ones) and the a9x14 fan:
Idle temps:
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Prime 95 temps:
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Next test was the LP53 heatpipes in a vertical orientation. i used the 4mm standoffs and the a9x14 fan:
Idle temps:
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Prime 95 temps:
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Next test was the LP53 heatpipes in a vertical orientation. i used the 7mm (the original ones) standoffs and the a9x14 fan:
Idle temps:
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Prime 95 Temps:
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All fan speeds og the above tests were:
Idle speed: 800 RPM
Full speed: 2200 RPM
As you can see, those temperatures are very very low, but i don't know how, surely they would be higher with a smaller fan than the TY-100?????
Anyway, as you can tell, all noise tests at idle are silent, but i think the 4mm standoff tests are slightly quieter with the side panel on with max fan speed, theres hardly any difference in it, but the 4mm tests have a slightly lower pitch sound.
For fun i did one last test as i was feeling rather confident with those low temps.
I tested the LP53 heatpipes in a vertical orientation. i used the 4mm standoffs and the a9x14 fan AND used the low noise adaptor that came with the fan:
Idle temps:
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Prime 95 temps:
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Not bad! as you can tell from the video it's silent even at full fan speed! this setup is the one to go for if you want a completely silent Dan pc.
if anyone has any questions feel free to ask.
OK so this post is going to be a long but very interesting one.
All tests are done on my 6700K @ 4.4Ghz with the LP53 and Noctua NF a-9x14 PWM fan
i unplugged the titan x pascal because sometimes it makes a little rumble when idle, and the NF a9x14 PWM is so quiet you can slightly hear the graphics card in the background, we don't want to hear that, we just want to hear the CPU fan.
i applied fresh thermal paste when i changed orientation of the cooler, the thermal paste i use is Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut.
The first test i did was with the LP53 heatpipes in a horizontal orientation. i used the 4mm standoffs and the a9x14 fan:
Idle temps:
View attachment 17799
Prime 95 temps:
View attachment 17800
Next test was the LP53 heatpipes in a horizontal orientation. i used the 7mm standoffs (the original ones) and the a9x14 fan:
Idle temps:
View attachment 17802
Prime 95 temps:
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Next test was the LP53 heatpipes in a vertical orientation. i used the 4mm standoffs and the a9x14 fan:
Idle temps:
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Prime 95 temps:
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Next test was the LP53 heatpipes in a vertical orientation. i used the 7mm (the original ones) standoffs and the a9x14 fan:
Idle temps:
View attachment 17806
Prime 95 Temps:
View attachment 17807
All fan speeds og the above tests were:
Idle speed: 800 RPM
Full speed: 2200 RPM
As you can see, those temperatures are very very low, but i don't know how, surely they would be higher with a smaller fan than the TY-100?????
Anyway, as you can tell, all noise tests at idle are silent, but i think the 4mm standoff tests are slightly quieter with the side panel on with max fan speed, theres hardly any difference in it, but the 4mm tests have a slightly lower pitch sound.
For fun i did one last test as i was feeling rather confident with those low temps.
I tested the LP53 heatpipes in a vertical orientation. i used the 4mm standoffs and the a9x14 fan AND used the low noise adaptor that came with the fan:
Idle temps:
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Prime 95 temps:
View attachment 17810
Not bad! as you can tell from the video it's silent even at full fan speed! this setup is the one to go for if you want a completely silent Dan pc.
if anyone has any questions feel free to ask.
I used Arctic mx-4. I used this thermal paste alreday several times before without any heat issues.What paste did you use?
Hold your hype, AMD may work some magic with Vega, like they just did with Ryzen. Rumors say that signature Vega will have 12 TFLOPS, which is more than Titan X. Le'ts just wait and see.