DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

[onmybikedrunk]

surprised no one fitted an 120mm AIO with a smaller mini GTX card.

It's been discussed. I found a 92mm AIO that could breath out the bottom where the SSD mount is (internals would need minor mods obviously) and it's still on my radar. I'm just waiting on the case in the U.S. That I'll get my full length card and an AIO. I don't think the cooling will be amazing, but it will be better than most air solutions.

 

[Sponge85]

What ram is that?

I also have a z270 for my build, how do the RGB on the Mainboard look when the sidecover is on--do they shine through the grating?

Coarsair Vengeance LED white
Didn't want to wait for the RGB. I know I wanted a black and white build. Just to bad that I need to swap out the C7 fan. NOCTUA is so ugly!

The Z270i Strix has not the strongest RGB. As you can se in the picture the ram is much stronger. I will probably buy some extra RGB strips.

 

[richiegore]

http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/geminii-m4/

This cooler looks interesting. If you file down the fins on the block I think you could easily fit a noctua 90 x14mm fan.

 

[noc]

Sponge85
You know you can put your cloth mousepad in your washing machine, right?

 

[Sponge85]

Sponge85
You know you can put your cloth mousepad in your washing machine, right?

Washing? What's that?

 

[Diverge]

For whatever reason when I put my Nexus Low-7000 R2 laying on top of my i5 2600K asrock z77e-itx motherboard, I barely have 13mm between the bottom of the heatsink fins, and the top of my ballistix VLP ram, which are basically flush with the ram sockets. So something is either odd with that motherboard combo, or something is odd with my cooler. My 6700K / asrock z170 itx gaming is currently in my ncase m1 case, but it looks like I'll have to take it all apart and see if that setup is any different. Unless everyone who is fitting these coolers is bending the heat pipes to get more space?

I guess I'll know more when I get a chance to take apart my main system, and the other coolers come.

 

[mcheddadi]

For whatever reason when I put my Nexus Low-7000 R2 laying on top of my i5 2600K asrock z77e-itx motherboard, I barely have 13mm between the bottom of the heatsink fins, and the top of my ballistix VLP ram, which are basically flush with the ram sockets. So something is either odd with that motherboard combo, or something is odd with my cooler. My 6700K / asrock z170 itx gaming is currently in my ncase m1 case, but it looks like I'll have to take it all apart and see if that setup is any different. Unless everyone who is fitting these coolers is bending the heat pipes to get more space?

I guess I'll know more when I get a chance to take apart my main system, and the other coolers come.

You can use the scythe 12mm 120mm fan there. Or bend the pipes to add a couple mm more to fit a 15mm fan there. Most be a quirk of the server mobo

 

[illram]

Noctua won't send me the clips. They found the thread and said too many people emailed them. (They said the clips won't work but that's not true). I don't think I am going to argue with them because it is sort of expensive to mail for free a bunch of 25cent clips to a lot of people around the world I suppose. Rubber bands it is...

 

[Jspr]

Noctua won't send me the clips. They found the thread and said too many people emailed them. (They said the clips won't work but that's not true). I don't think I am going to argue with them because it is sort of expensive to mail for free a bunch of 25cent clips to a lot of people around the world I suppose. Rubber bands it is...

Dang it.. :-(

 

[Philfreeze]

Noctua won't send me the clips. They found the thread and said too many people emailed them. (They said the clips won't work but that's not true). I don't think I am going to argue with them because it is sort of expensive to mail for free a bunch of 25cent clips to a lot of people around the world I suppose. Rubber bands it is...

This is the best. We managed to make Noctua, one of the nicest companies, angry because too many people wanted something from them.

I guess at the end of this we will have annoyed a good amount of companies and resellers.

 

[kingtron]

Noctua won't send me the clips. They found the thread and said too many people emailed them. (They said the clips won't work but that's not true). I don't think I am going to argue with them because it is sort of expensive to mail for free a bunch of 25cent clips to a lot of people around the world I suppose. Rubber bands it is...

This is the best. We managed to make Noctua, one of the nicest companies, angry because too many people wanted something from them.

I guess at the end of this we will have annoyed a good amount of companies and resellers.

Same here, they have so many requests for the clips overnight !

 

[JoeH823]

Honestly, I'd even pay a dollar or two and shipping if it worked, but oh well. I guess copper wire is another option, or maybe a 3D printed bracket out of ABS.

 

[illram]

I mean I don't feel bad asking in the first place, and I don't think they're "angry." Just making a (probably wise) business decision. I was honest and said I only want them for another cooler (but included proof of purchase for A9x14). But I would feel a little dirty if I pushed this issue, as it would be going over and above expectations to mail customers, for free, accessories that don't even come with your purchase, for use on a competitor's product!

I still like Noctua, they have done right by me before (sent me a replacement A9x14 fan for a faulty one without any RMA stuff, just sent it right away).

 

[hcts]

So I did something for fun:

A DAN A4-SFX AIO build

And it was not that much fun fitting all the cables... I really need to order som custom length cables

Anyway:

Z270I MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Intel Core i7 7700K (delid)
Corsair H60 AIO with a Deepcool Gamer Storm GS120 fan (I somehow thought I would fit a 25 mm fan, but that was not the case)
32 GB Corsair VENGEANCE LPX DDR4
Gigabyte 1070 Mini ITX OC 8G
Corsair SF600

Part list / Build log.

Some test results here.

 

[mirgus]

i like that build , but whats the matter of water cooling if other parts are louder ? like the gpu ? that gigabyte must be pretty loud with that single fan ?!

 

[readeh]

My two Nexus coolers just got cancelled a week after I ordered them.. Anybody knows if there are some available still? Doesn't matter where or how long shipping takes. If anybody on hardforum are willing to part with one I'd pay a fair price.

 

[mcheddadi]

So I did something for fun:

A DAN A4-SFX AIO build

And it was not that much fun fitting all the cables... I really need to order som custom length cables

Anyway:

Z270I MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Intel Core i7 7700K
Corsair H60 AIO with Scythe Slip Stream 120 mm fan (I somehow thought I would fit a 25 mm fan, but that was not the case)
32 GB Corsair VENGEANCE LPX DDR4
Gigabyte 1070 Mini ITX OC 8G
Corsair SF600

I haven´t tested it properly yet, but I assume it will be a grand failure Since the radiator doesn't really have anywhere to get rid of the hot air. It pushes it against the cables and the PSU.

So I will try to optimise regarding the cable length (maybe move some of it down under the GPU?). The CPU is also going to receive a delid as soon as I receive my kit. I also have a 92 mm AIO lying around so I might try to do the AIO below the PSU theory.

try putting the fan behind the radiator so that you get less turbulence and make it shoot the air outside? why do you say that the radiator can't get rid of the heat? that is pretty great!

 

[hcts]

i like that build , but whats the matter of water cooling if other parts are louder ? like the gpu ? that gigabyte must be pretty loud with that single fan ?!

You have a point (I just did this build to see if it is possible). I haven´t used the GPU for that long, so I don´t know how loud it will get, but right now it doesn't seem that much louder than my other GTX 1070 (EVGA).

try putting the fan behind the radiator so that you get less turbulence and make it shoot the air outside? why do you say that the radiator can't get rid of the heat? that is pretty great!

Thought about that, but then the fan would be squeezed between PSU, cables and the radiator. I don´t really think there would be enough air around it, for the fan to push it through the radiator. The fan would be starved for air.

 

[SideSwiped]

So I did something for fun:

A DAN A4-SFX AIO build

And it was not that much fun fitting all the cables... I really need to order som custom length cables

Anyway:

Z270I MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Intel Core i7 7700K
Corsair H60 AIO with Scythe Slip Stream 120 mm fan (I somehow thought I would fit a 25 mm fan, but that was not the case)
32 GB Corsair VENGEANCE LPX DDR4
Gigabyte 1070 Mini ITX OC 8G
Corsair SF600

I haven´t tested it properly yet, but I assume it will be a grand failure Since the radiator doesn't really have anywhere to get rid of the hot air. It pushes it against the cables and the PSU.

So I will try to optimise regarding the cable length (maybe move some of it down under the GPU?). The CPU is also going to receive a delid as soon as I receive my kit. I also have a 92 mm AIO lying around so I might try to do the AIO below the PSU theory.

I have a similar setup in a TU-100. You can flip the PSU inward to help exhaust the heat and pull air in from the h50. Should work out nicely. Might have to cut that plastic seperator though to achieve this exhaust.

 

[dondan]

I thought the same, flip the PSU Or buy a SFX-L PSU and use one 120mm fan for both components. But this will require to switch the PSU fan against a motherboard controlled one.

hcts: Really nice pictures you will have great chances for the top posistions in the Hall of Fame on www.dan-cases.com

 

[richiegore]

I thought the same, flip the PSU Or buy a SFX-L PSU and use one 120mm fan for both components. But this will require to switch the PSU fan against a motherboard controlled one.

hcts: Really nice pictures you will have great chances for the top posistions in the Hall of Fame on www.dan-cases.com

That is the best idea I have ever heard, or close to it.. you could also open the power supply and reverse the fan, add a foam gasket between the power supply and radiator. I reckon that would perform really well... What depth are those Silverstone PSU fans?

 

[dondan]

i think 15mm

 

[Wezelkrozum]

Please test three things for me:
1.) Unplug the A4-SFX power cord and use a different power cord (maybe thatone that was included with your psu)
2.) Remove the Riser from the Motherboard. Boot the system while using the gpu that is inside your cpu (igpu).
3.) Unplug the USB 20pin cable from the motherboard an boot the system.

Well Dondan,

I was unable to find the problem. None of the unplugged connections changed a thing. In the end I unplugged all components and put them back together outside of the case. Everything seemed to be allright from that moment. So I re-plugged all components back in the case and changed some cable routes. Now everything is working reliably and the components are even cooler under load! So it could have been the cable routes that were to tight or cables forcing/touching something I guess. (The case still has a low current flowing through it, but that's probably just because my outlets are not grounded.)

All in all, It's an amazing little (very quiet!) thing! While building inside the case I began to understand the smart positioning of the components and possible cable routes. You did an amazing job (with the community)

 

[mirgus]

I had issues routing the Sata cables above the PSU ( windows boot screen loaded for ever ).

 

[danurv]

Tried the Noctua A9x14 fan on my c7 heat sink with a 7700k. Performance isn't that great, can't keep up with the 7700k heat.

It is much quieter, and works for underclocked cpu.

When I run it at stock clocks and have fan running at full, it idles at around 55c with spikes into the 90's doing regular tasks.

I'm not sure it is pushing enough air through the cooler. I'd recommend not going this route. Next stop, trying a nexus or going back to c7 stock cooler, it was loud for sure but it cooled great.

 

[Shaav]

So, I experimented with case fans. If the fans of your CPU and GPU are spinning with low speeds, your pc case might heat up after some time. With an addational fan I could reduce the temperature of CPU and GPU by 10°C each. Maybe I also reduced the noise of the power supply, but I didn't measure that.

 

[bAMtan2]

For whatever reason when I put my Nexus Low-7000 R2 laying on top of my i5 2600K asrock z77e-itx motherboard, I barely have 13mm between the bottom of the heatsink fins, and the top of my ballistix VLP ram

until you see server RAM with heatsinks, RAM heatsinks aren't necessary and can be removed

 

[illram]

So I got my LP53 in this morning, and set it up open-air style to test somethings. First some measurements of the Z270i for people who need them. This is the IO shield thing; around 36mm tall on the inside edge:

Entire mobo; this board has all sorts of xxxtreme gamer l337 heatsinks everywhere (I usually don't buy these boards, pardon my grumpiness):

Ziptied A9x14. Removing the original fan is easy, just slip the rubber pins out from the heatsink. I had to re-do these zip-ties as you cannot have anything hanging off the side with the Z270i, as I will show later. Try and have the zip lock part on top, and also try and maybe buy non-enormous ugly ass zip ties, like me. (These are what I had lying around). I don't think it matters if one or two fins get bent in the process.

Securing the heatsink is a little more white-knuckle-ish than I would like, the holes on the bottom are not perfectly aligned such that you can just drop it right on and it is a very tight squeeze on this motherboard with all the heatsinks everywhere. DO NOT screw in the screws that much, as noted in review in the Sentry thread. Just get them in and then maybe tighten a tiny bit to secure it, you really hardly need to screw them in at all. The heatsink will make contact with the CPU with very little pressure needed on all four screws. Prepare to manhandle your motherboard in the process of doing this. Don't worry, it can take it. Also there is only one orientation the LP53 will fit in, sadly the fins have to be perpendicular to the RAM and the IO thus air may not circulate as well as one would like if they were parrallel.

This RAM is not very tall but the cooler will not clear it. Ergo, no fan larger than the A9 will fit. Which is fine, as the A9 is a wonderfully quiet fan.

Nor will you clear the IO panel, also note the IO heatsink is touching the side of the fan. Did I mention this is a tight squeeze?

You can avoid this if you are more careful than me (bent fin at the bottom). It will fit within the M2 heatsink, just be careful. Not to worry if this happens though, I can report that your computer will still work and not burst into flames because you bent this fin. Not a big deal.

The fit, it is tight:

Out of the box and working (ignore ugly zip ties, I cut them later), huzzah. Thanks, $2.49 power button from Amazon.

41c at boot, default settings, 925rpm. Fan is silent at this speed. I have a Noctua in another case and can tell you that you will not hear it until it gets >2000RPM or so, and even then it will be hard to hear unless you are near the PC. But I'm not going to really worry about whether that temp is too high for now, this was mostly just a "plug it all in and see if it works" excercise. And it does. (Enabling XMP did not change the temp.) BTW this RAM sort of sucks, Team Vulcan 16GB, very temperamental to get to 3000mhz.

That's it for now. TL;DR, there is no room to use any fan larger than around 92x92 on top of the LP53, and be careful when placing it on the mobo to not overtighten it.

 

[Ivan Pla]

So I did something for fun:

A DAN A4-SFX AIO build

And it was not that much fun fitting all the cables... I really need to order som custom length cables

Anyway:

Z270I MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Intel Core i7 7700K
Corsair H60 AIO with Scythe Slip Stream 120 mm fan (I somehow thought I would fit a 25 mm fan, but that was not the case)
32 GB Corsair VENGEANCE LPX DDR4
Gigabyte 1070 Mini ITX OC 8G
Corsair SF600

I haven´t tested it properly yet, but I assume it will be a grand failure Since the radiator doesn't really have anywhere to get rid of the hot air. It pushes it against the cables and the PSU.

So I will try to optimise regarding the cable length (maybe move some of it down under the GPU?). The CPU is also going to receive a delid as soon as I receive my kit. I also have a 92 mm AIO lying around so I might try to do the AIO below the PSU theory.

Very interesring. I would like to se some performance/heat/noise levels.

 

[Curiositie]

The heatspreaders on that Teamgroup ram look great from the top.
Officially on my list of parts to consider

 

[illram]

They were a great price, but I am having trouble getting them to 3000mhz. I think one stick might be bad. Can someone who is familiar with the UEFI BIOS for ASUS tell me something, which RAM speed reading is correct, this one:

Or the one on the right in the "Hardware Monitor" panel (not the one on the left)? Both seem to be "realtime." (Note below pic was taken with XMP enabled in a different session than pic above, but even when below reading is showing as 3000, the first "EZ Mode" status monitor still contradicts it and shows 2133mhz).

?

 

[Philfreeze]

So I got my LP53 in this morning, and set it up open-air style to test somethings. First some measurements of the Z270i for people who need them. This is the IO shield thing; around 36mm tall on the inside edge:

Entire mobo; this board has all sorts of xxxtreme gamer l337 heatsinks everywhere (I usually don't buy these boards, pardon my grumpiness):

....Nor will you clear the IO panel, also note the IO heatsink is touching the side of the fan. Did I mention this is a tight squeeze?....

I think it shouldn't be problem to remove this stupid heatsinks all together, they really don't serve any practical purpose. They aren't even really heatsinks if you think about it (no fins) they are just big blocks of aluminum to look good.
I am probably going to remove them and (if necessary) replace the VRM heatsinks with some significantly lower power ones.

Typically these heatsinks are just way over the top. I would say you could easily run a 7700K without OC and with a Mobo with more than 4 phases without any heatsinks on the VRM. This is just a rough guess though.
I will try to find some information on the VRM on the STRIX Mobo, sadly I can't just take a look because I don't have it yet (it isn't sold in Switzerland as far as I can see).


Edit:
Just look at the Asrock Z270M-ITX/ac, the heatsink for the VRM is tiny.

 

[illram]

Removing that IO "heatsink" silliness would probably allow a 100mm fan at least. I truly have no idea what it is doing there other than being incredibly annoying to work around.

 

[darksable]

This is the best. We managed to make Noctua, one of the nicest companies, angry because too many people wanted something from them.

I guess at the end of this we will have annoyed a good amount of companies and resellers.

Hey, I just wanted to say thank you. This was the post that got me thinking.

There are a LOT of us who are looking for a cooling solution that's 48mm or so, between the Sentry and the A4. Enough that, as you said, this quest has the momentum to annoy even Noctua. It also has enough interest to get Dan thinking about designing his own heatsink.

Well... Why not combine those thoughts? I just wrote to Noctua (you can see what I wrote in the Sentry thread), asking them what it would take for them to consider building us a cooler, and laid out my case for how many of us want something like this.

I figure if any company is going to take us on, it'll be the relatively small, exceptionally customer-servicing one that specializes in high performance, low noise cooling.

So... I need your help, guys. What exactly are we looking for? Here's what I've got so far:

• Low profile - 48mm

• Low noise - that means a slim fan on the bottom of the heatsink fins. (See the Nexus or Noctua's own, slightly too large, NH-L12.

• High performance - I want a huge cooler that basically overhangs whatever it can on the motherboard. I don't think there's any problem with using VLP RAM, and I'd be happy if it went from the PCIe slot to the top of a mini-ITX motherboard.

• (Input: how many of us are interested in Asus Maximus Impact motherboards with all those daughterboards? How would that impact cooling design?)

• Ease of retention - I would really like it if the cooler screwed in from the bottom of the motherboard instead of fishing a screwdriver in through gaps in the fins.

• Ideally it would be copper? I don't know how much Noctua uses copper outside of heatpipes, so... We'll see.

• How many heatpipes are we looking at? We want to cool a 91W chip, ideally with a bit of room to overclock, so... Four? Would it be possible to fit six?

 

[hcts]

I have a similar setup in a TU-100. You can flip the PSU inward to help exhaust the heat and pull air in from the h50. Should work out nicely. Might have to cut that plastic seperator though to achieve this exhaust.

I thought the same, flip the PSU Or buy a SFX-L PSU and use one 120mm fan for both components. But this will require to switch the PSU fan against a motherboard controlled one.

hcts: Really nice pictures you will have great chances for the top posistions in the Hall of Fame on www.dan-cases.com

Thx for the kind words

That is the best idea I have ever heard, or close to it.. you could also open the power supply and reverse the fan, add a foam gasket between the power supply and radiator. I reckon that would perform really well... What depth are those Silverstone PSU fans?

Great ideas everyone!

DAN A4-SFX AIO build v 0.2.2:

So I did as suggested and flipped the PSU around. The plastic separator problem was elegantly solved by folding it together and pushing it behind the GPU I also redid all the cables.
Used more individually sleeved cables and rerouted more of them into the GPU and Radiator chamber. There are now slight openings the whole way trough to the other side so you can now feel a slight breeze going through the case. The 24-pin ATX connector is still the old ugly one. So here I will need to get a shorter and sleeved cable. The improved cable routing also led to a better routing of the AIO tubing with less kinks and less "bubbly" sounds afterwards

Regarding temperatures and performance:

Benchmarks:

• 3DMark Time Spy: 5714
• VR Mark Orange room: 9580
• VR Mark Blue room: 1786
• Fire Strike Ultra: 4151
• Fire Strike Extreme: 7673
• Fire Strike: 17772
• Valley: 3879
• Heaven: 2319
• Superposition 1080p Extreme: 3423
• Superposition 4K Optimized: 5346
• Superposition VR Maximum: 8759
• Superposition VR Future: 2885

3 hours with running these benchmarks: CPU never got over 74° C and GPU never over 75° C.

• Aida64 stress test (CPU, Memory & GPU) for 2 hours > CPU max 72° C and GPU max 71° C.
• Prime95 (28.10) stress test (CPU) for 30 min > CPU max 73° C.
• Timespy stress test: 98.7% > Temperatures GPU Max 75° C and CPU Max 70° C.
• Superposition stress test: passed > Temperatures GPU Max 70° C and CPU Max 59° C.

Sound:

30-35 dB when under really heavy loads.

 

[Horrocko]

I don't think there's any problem with using VLP RAM

Some great ideas there but I would not agree with this point in particular. Sourcing and availability for consumers is not as easy for VLP (also think internationally). You would want to keep the potential costumer base as large as possible if you want to convince a manufacturer of your idea for what is essentially still a niche product at this stage.

Plus, some people just like bling even if it serves no immediate purpose... nothing inherently wrong with that

 

[darksable]

Some great ideas there but I would not agree with this point in particular. Sourcing and availability for consumers is not as easy for VLP (also think internationally). You would want to keep the potential costumer base as large as possible if you want to convince a manufacturer of your idea for what is essentially still a niche product at this stage.

Plus, some people just like bling even if it serves no immediate purpose... nothing inherently wrong with that

Hmm, international sourcing is a good point, definitely something I hadn't considered. Perhaps a compromise and have it fit normal height sticks but not ones with oversized spreaders?

I don't know, what do other people think? If it's difficult to find ram without large "heatsinks" in your area, would you consider removing them or modding the tops?

As for bling, though, I mean, you're absolutely correct... But those of us interested in a cooler like this are probably going to be more interested in getting the best performance possible, no?

If you want RGB ram, there are other options that can provide either silence or performance - I personally would rather let this cooler be the utmost in those two categories and give up looks and some compatibility.

(Personally, industrial style and large heatsinks peeking out from behind vents is my kind of bling anyways. )

 

[krcm0209]

Hey, I just wanted to say thank you. This was the post that got me thinking.

There are a LOT of us who are looking for a cooling solution that's 48mm or so, between the Sentry and the A4. Enough that, as you said, this quest has the momentum to annoy even Noctua. It also has enough interest to get Dan thinking about designing his own heatsink.

Well... Why not combine those thoughts? I just wrote to Noctua (you can see what I wrote in the Sentry thread), asking them what it would take for them to consider building us a cooler, and laid out my case for how many of us want something like this.

I figure if any company is going to take us on, it'll be the relatively small, exceptionally customer-servicing one that specializes in high performance, low noise cooling.

So... I need your help, guys. What exactly are we looking for? Here's what I've got so far:

• Low profile - 48mm

• Low noise - that means a slim fan on the bottom of the heatsink fins. (See the Nexus or Noctua's own, slightly too large, NH-L12.

• High performance - I want a huge cooler that basically overhangs whatever it can on the motherboard. I don't think there's any problem with using VLP RAM, and I'd be happy if it went from the PCIe slot to the top of a mini-ITX motherboard.

• (Input: how many of us are interested in Asus Maximus Impact motherboards with all those daughterboards? How would that impact cooling design?)

• Ease of retention - I would really like it if the cooler screwed in from the bottom of the motherboard instead of fishing a screwdriver in through gaps in the fins.

• Ideally it would be copper? I don't know how much Noctua uses copper outside of heatpipes, so... We'll see.

• How many heatpipes are we looking at? We want to cool a 91W chip, ideally with a bit of room to overclock, so... Four? Would it be possible to fit six?

The things I would hope for are 100% copper, perhaps nickel-plated. Also if Noctua was behind it I would like to see a slim version of one of their redux or industrial fans. And locating the fan below the heatsink seems to be a must.
I would also prefer to be able to use any RAM I want, without being limited to height restrictions, and would prefer for the cooler to not overhang the RAM slots.

 

[darksable]

Hmm... So it appears a standard stick of DDR4 is about 31mm tall, which means that above it we'd only have ~15mm of space; not enough.

The question now, I think, becomes two parts:

1) in a cooler with no ram overhang, is it possible to fit a 120mm fan? If not, does that change if it can overhang the ram with a restriction to half-height ram?

2) If it doesn't overhang the ram at all, how much thicker could the heatsink be? Could it make up for the loss in surface area by increased depth?


Also, just a side note on the fan, I'm using a Noctua NH-L12, with a 120mm fan underneath. Basically exactly same setup as we need, but just a little bit too large. I can assure you that you can't see the noctua colors through the heatsink.

 

[Blackreplica]

Tried the Noctua A9x14 fan on my c7 heat sink with a 7700k. Performance isn't that great, can't keep up with the 7700k heat.

It is much quieter, and works for underclocked cpu.

When I run it at stock clocks and have fan running at full, it idles at around 55c with spikes into the 90's doing regular tasks.

I'm not sure it is pushing enough air through the cooler. I'd recommend not going this route. Next stop, trying a nexus or going back to c7 stock cooler, it was loud for sure but it cooled great.

Thanks for posting this, I'm particularly interested..Is your CPU delidded? Also just to confirm, when you say its quieter..do you mean completely quiet enough for most users to consider as tolerable, even at 100% fan speed