DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

Guys, this project is up since 2015. Does it really matter if we get our pc case a weak oder two later? I mean, we funded this project to make this possible and that's what matters, right?
It's like you said, we've been waiting since 2015. We originally were going to get shipping information in December 2016. It's just an amazing case and people have been very patient waiting for it. As the final weeks come to a close most people need an update that's all. No offense to Dan though, he's been pretty transparent about the process from the get go.
 
What direction is the power supply connector orientated?

With the cable end toward you (connector facing away from you), and the bevels on top, does the power connector turn right or left?

On the prototype photos I think it showed one where the connector turned to the left (as per above description).

Is this the same in the final version?

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Been a long time coming, I don't have any parts yet so I don't really care about a few additional weeks. Just excited to see the project successful. Great to see so many amazing cases designed by individuals. Although I don't think I can justify any more itx form factor pc's. This will be number 3 !
 
just got the email, will the case be the same price on overclockers and caseking? and will they have the same amount of cases?
 
i suggest u find more "international" distributors that can actually ship worldwide....
 
just got the email, will the case be the same price on overclockers and caseking? and will they have the same amount of cases?

I'm tempted to buy a second one, sell my laptop, and use travel with the A4, hooking up to flat screen TVs when I'm on the road.
 
Are the NA kickstarters going to get their shipments before people who buy from overclockers? Because at this rate they wont.
I'm in EU and still didn't get shippment notice. there is no reason to "panic". will get there ...
 
Apologies for any ignorance and not paying attention, I have a 250D and I want smaller.. smaller go go go...

Sooo basically..

MS-7887 Z871 (1720 x 170mm)
i5-4670k 4k MHZ

H100i Dual-120 (Too big, unnecessary)
ASUS STRIX-GTX980-DC2OC (28.86 x 13.44 x 4.09cm)? Has these annoying tall, whiny heat sinks
Corsair AX760 (Too big)
2x Hyper-X HX318C10FRK2/16 (32.80mm tall)
2x Noctua NF-F12 (Unecessary?)

Need: Smaller PSU, Smaller Air CPU Cooler, Smaller GPU
 
You also need to consider the modular cables connecting from the bottom of the psu.
Thought of that, i think it would be an interesting challenge, going watercooled does get rid of gpu heatsink and cpu heasink, there is some promising space to use granted you can stuff a decent radiator below the psu.
 
Even with two of those 80mm Rads you will cool the hardware worse than with decent aircoolers.
 
This http://www.china-ec21.com/images/co...ink-for-frequency-conversion-drive-3981_1.jpg

plus this http://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/cont..._ii_integrated_pump_and_waterblock_review.jpg

all im saying is that it's possible you can watercool the dan a4.

If you can fit 2 of those 80mm Rads, then youre golden! wishful thinking...
I've researched this for fun times. First, the Apogee pump/block combo is too tall at ~53mm unless you get the acrylic window mod. You need to use a low profile cpu block + fittings, which can be done several ways. The only possible way I've found to do a legit cpu loop is with either a short 1060 (lame) or with a Fury Nano. With a short GPU you can mount a slim 120mm rad with slim fan behind the PSU. In order to do a full loop you'd need at least a dual 80mm rad in addition or you'd overheat quickly. A small pump like the Alphacool DC-LT could be mounted where ever space could be found. This is all speculation and I won't be able to actually assess the possibility of watercooling until I have my case in front of me. But like you said, wishful thinking.
 
Got my A4 delivered yesterday. Its really impressive to see that even the box it came in is smaller than the majority of cases out there. Here it is in comparison to the already really small Ncase M1:


Sadly i won't be able to start my build directly, as i will need to gather additional parts. It will be an X99 build however (again :whistle:) , a 12 core Xeon Workstation in a shoebox sized case would be really cool...

Dan really delivered a great case here, hope he isn't too exhausted now.

I'm downsizing from an NCase M1 too, so fantastic to see them side by side to see how much smaller the A4 is! Thanks!

Pv
 
I've researched this for fun times. First, the Apogee pump/block combo is too tall at ~53mm unless you get the acrylic window mod. You need to use a low profile cpu block + fittings, which can be done several ways. The only possible way I've found to do a legit cpu loop is with either a short 1060 (lame) or with a Fury Nano. With a short GPU you can mount a slim 120mm rad with slim fan behind the PSU. In order to do a full loop you'd need at least a dual 80mm rad in addition or you'd overheat quickly. A small pump like the Alphacool DC-LT could be mounted where ever space could be found. This is all speculation and I won't be able to actually assess the possibility of watercooling until I have my case in front of me. But like you said, wishful thinking.

The zotac 1080mini has come out so its got serious beef power, and a pump can fit snug horizontally below the gpu, there is a bunch of empty space there, as well as space above for tubing. its very very possible, like you said we gotta get our hands on the unit first.
 
Hello,

I have mailed some companies like Celsia and Heatscape that make custom colling vapor systems and ask them for produce a full copper vapor chamber (custom vapor like 2-5 maybe more mm) heatsink like dynatron t318 but for LGA1151. 95x95x23 and 95x95x33 so we can test 14mm noctua slim fan and 25mm fan in Dan case. Mounting system and fins etc like dynatron T318.

Unfortunatley most of them do not want to sell to individual and no low volumes but i will try and maybe ill find one to make some prototypes for good $$$.
I belive that this heat sink + Fan will be the best scenario with space we have in Dan to cool our OC'ed CPUs. They told me that it is possible to make a 130W+ TDP heat sink with this dimension so im excited like hell.:love:

Heatscape can make min prototype run like 25 pcs.

So anybody interested in this custom cooling fantasy specials for Dan sfx? Maybe we can stretch heat sink to max fit with particular motherboard to make it bigger and better dissipate.


English is not my main language so excuse me.
 
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I'd be interested, how much would each be if we did a run of at least 25? ETA?
 
Would anyone who has already received the case be willing to provide some rough measurements of custom PSU cable lengths needed? I realize there will be motherboard-dependent variation, but any general guidelines would be helpful in the meantime.
 
Would anyone who has already received the case be willing to provide some rough measurements of custom PSU cable lengths needed? I realize there will be motherboard-dependent variation, but any general guidelines would be helpful in the meantime.

You need tobe asking for someone that has the case amd a mobo tuat has the se power connector layout as your mobo to get tye right cable lengths.
 
The anodized surface is good enough for me.
oh for sure. However for that temporary change in color scheme, Plastidip will give you that temporary coloring with durability to match, not to mention some protection against scratches to the aluminum.
 
all im saying is that it's possible you can watercool the dan a4.

maybe it's possible, but for it to be better, the heatsink and fan area enabled by the water cooling system must be physically larger than the state of the art air cooling heatsink and fan area, otherwise nothing better is being accomplished. and water cooling takes up more space than air cooling, so it seems to be physically impossible for water cooling to be better in a space-constrained system like A4

what you really want is the absolute biggest and best heatpipe systems you can fit. a custom cooler could perform better, but it would need to be designed specifically for this case and one certain motherboard

I think the secret for this case is the undervolted and delidded i7-7700, plus the biggest graphics card cooler that will fit!
 
oh for sure. However for that temporary change in color scheme, Plastidip will give you that temporary coloring with durability to match, not to mention some protection against scratches to the aluminum.
I've just never been a big fan of plastidip or vinyl wrap, just not durable enough for me... I would like a powder-coat or a hard anodized surface but that tends to be expensive unfortunately.
 
Not installing I/O-Panel results in a reduction of the temperature of the CPU by 8°C
 
I'd be interested, how much would each be if we did a run of at least 25? ETA?
Thank you :) but no luck for me for now. They refuse to mail me pricing because im not a corporate. "i don;t belive your application is really in line with our business. We are a mass-production company that sells our thermal ...b la bla bla"
BUT they say after that "We can definitely build ANY custom vapor chamber you are lookinig for, but that will require an upfront NRE charge, soft tooling, and at least an MoQ of 25pcs and up for prototyping run."
Maybe ther is still a chance.
 
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I'm calling bullshit on the 7700k at 4.7ghz and 1.15v.

Does not having the IO panel installed make that much of a difference?? So many people reporting their results without the IO panel.

Was suprised as well, but the ambient temperature was 18C. He posted that 95C was on 4500ghz with 25C ambient and 86C on 4500 with ambient 17C. No notes that it was with I/O or not so i assume its with.

And with NF A9 PWM 25mm fan not 14mm slim one.
 
So anybody interested in this custom cooling fantasy specials for Dan sfx?
If that cooler would perform significantly(25°C less) better than the Noctua, I would buy one. Price would not matter that much.
 
Minus 25° is kind of unrealistic.
-10-15° would already be really great.
May be a kickstarter project could be cool.
With 2000 dan a4 I am quite confident 10% will be willing to pay a premium for a customised cooling solution.
 
You need tobe asking for someone that has the case amd a mobo tuat has the se power connector layout as your mobo to get tye right cable lengths.

No kidding. That's why I said general guidelines. I'd like just some sort of an idea to begin planning.
 
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