DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world

Is not mine, i found it here.
I'm asking myself the same thing, maybe is just the pins-closing-system with few mm tolerance and maybe it goes away when you put the screws in.
 
CrazyManCan said:
Does these actually fit? I got one through evg promotion, I haven't don't the measurements but I'm using one currently with my FTW 1080.
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not the evga relocation thing, just a normal right angle adapter.
but all youd have to do is physically hold them together to see if the adapter is taller or shorter than the regular pcie plug. if its shorter us it, if its taller, might not work.
 
Woxys said:
I'm happy someone did already get the case but I'm a little bit worried about this :unsure:
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illram said:
Is that yours?

I've had small defects/variations in retail lian li cases before. (Panel not 100% flush with another panel, very very slight curve in what should be a totally flat edge, etc.) I'd expect this to be no different, like any other consumer product. I'm looking at an old Q11 in my entertainment cabinet right now that has a side panel that does not sit flush with the main chassis. Happens.
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This is normal because we don't use molted parts. I defined a tolerance with Lian Li that the round part of the sidepanel shouldn't be bigger as 0.5mm over the round part of the front panel. Mostly it helps te remove all panels and ajust them new. But a 100% correct copy of the cad drawing is impossible.

On picture that made in some angles the effect is bigger as in real life.

If you got a case where the gab is very annoying we will find a solution because i have spare parts for it.
 
could anyone with this case post some temperature stats on blower 1080 vs axial fan 1080. Is it that much better to have a blower style gpu in these types of cases even if the gpu is in another compartment apart from the mobo and cpu?
 
Yeah, I second to that. Also, I wonder if the Corsair SF450 would be enough to handle a Z270 mobo with just one m.2 SSD, a 7700k (with a C7) and a GTX 1080.
 
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Ivan Pla said:
Yeah, I second to that. Also, I wander if the Corsair SF450 would be enough to handle a Z270 mobo with just one m.2 SSD, a 7700k (with a C7) and a GTX 1080.
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Without a doubt. I think you would have a hard time to draw 300W with that setup (non-OC). And then OC isn't something that will be easily done in this case.

91W TDP maximum on a Kaby Lake CPU, 180W TDP on a 1080, and then a few tens of watts for the Z270, RAM and SSD. And it's hard to push them to the limits in "realistic" workloads.


My two cents...correct me if I'm wrong :)
 
pellen said:
Without a doubt. I think you would have a hard time to draw 300W with that setup (non-OC). And then OC isn't something that will be easily done in this case.

91W TDP maximum on a Kaby Lake CPU, 180W TDP on a 1080, and then a few tens of watts for the Z270, RAM and SSD. And it's hard to push them to the limits in "realistic" workloads.


My two cents...correct me if I'm wrong :)
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For reference, my max OC'd 1070 and 6700K at 4.2ghz on all cores undervolted, plus two SSD's and 1 case fan draws about 230 watts in Unigine Valley. Add another ~40 watts for a OC'd 1080.
 
Ivan Pla said:
Yeah, I second to that. Also, I wonder if the Corsair SF450 would be enough to handle a Z270 mobo with just one m.2 SSD, a 7700k (with a C7) and a GTX 1080.
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Should be more than good enough although the 7700k puts out more heat than the 6700k... And pricing is out of whack right now.
 
tviceman said:
For reference, my max OC'd 1070 and 6700K at 4.2ghz on all cores undervolted, plus two SSD's and 1 case fan draws about 230 watts in Unigine Valley. Add another ~40 watts for a OC'd 1080.
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In running a 980ti and I'm pulling ~330 from the wall with the SF600.
 
tviceman said:
I have the same PSU. Is your 980 TI overclocked? If so, that looks spot on for full rig power consumption with a similar setup as mine.
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My 6700k is at 4.6 1.3v and the 980ti is at 150% power limit. Fan barely spins up on the PSU during gaming loads.
 
The 6700k (4.6 1.3v) throttles under Intel burn test but the OC is still stable and the CPU maxes out at 67 under gaming load so I don't think there's a reason to go L9i or anything like that.
 
pendragon1 said:
that's called a shroud and each board being different means youd have to make you own. and dan did temp testing, reviewers probably will too as the case start getting into their hands. the videos that are out now id call more of a preview than a review. you've been following the thread long enough to know this...
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Thanks for not only your condescending attitude, but also regurgitating to me much of which I already know without providing a single shred of useful information. Your contribution and attitude are indicative of abrasive personality issues (or perhaps a severe lack of manners), but I'm sure you're numb to observations like this by now.
 

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Is it realistic to expect silence from setup made of this components (without setting my house on fire)?

6600k non OC
Cryorig C7 (or something similiar available in Italy or Hungary)
Strix Z270I mobo
ASUS Strix 1060
Corsair SF450

And when I say silence, I really mean silence. I'm currently running system on Z170-A board, in spacey mid tower case with LC-CC-120 CPU fan @670rpm (212 EVO equivalent), case is under desk, ~70 cm away from me, and it is really non audible. I can barely hear CPU fan when I open the case, while PSU and GPU are 0db.

CPU temp is ~32C, GPU ~40.


So, is it possible to expect something similar from C7 (with case being 1m away from me on the desk), just with higher temps? I really don't mind higher temps, as long as they don't cause home fire :D
 
Hajzenberg said:
Is it realistic to expect silence from setup made of this components (without setting my house on fire)?

6600k non OC
Cryorig C7 (or something similiar available in Italy or Hungary)
Strix Z270I mobo
ASUS Strix 1060
Corsair SF450

And when I say silence, I really mean silence. I'm currently running system on Z170-A board, in spacey mid tower case with LC-CC-120 CPU fan @670rpm (212 EVO equivalent), case is under desk, ~70 cm away from me, and it is really non audible. I can barely hear CPU fan when I open the case, while PSU and GPU are 0db.

CPU temp is ~32C, GPU ~40.


So, is it possible to expect something similar from C7 (with case being 1m away from me on the desk), just with higher temps? I really don't mind higher temps, as long as they don't cause home fire :D
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I would jump up to an SF600 so that the fan never really kicks on, but thats based on your budget.
 
akhilv1 said:
I would jump up to an SF600 so that the fan never really kicks on, but thats based on your budget.
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The SF600 will be total overkill and not be any quieter, I think that's a complete waste of money - the SF450 is already off most of the time anyway!
 
Looking at the noise graphs i had an impression that SF450 is more quiet, although SF600's fan kicks in at 120W vs 450's 90W.

It's not huge price difference, just about 20 euros. But I'm way more concerned about CPU fan noise. I really can't draw clear conclusion about C7 noise. Either people test it with 100% load (which is totally unrealistic, because my CPU idles 98% of the time), or with 100% fan speed (I'm not a Jet engine pilot, just programmer hoping for silence while doing some work), or on desk benches disregarding heat problem coming from small factor cases, thus making results meaningless.
 
Hajzenberg said:
Is it realistic to expect silence from setup made of this components (without setting my house on fire)?

6600k non OC
Cryorig C7 (or something similiar available in Italy or Hungary)
Strix Z270I mobo
ASUS Strix 1060
Corsair SF450

And when I say silence, I really mean silence. I'm currently running system on Z170-A board, in spacey mid tower case with LC-CC-120 CPU fan @670rpm (212 EVO equivalent), case is under desk, ~70 cm away from me, and it is really non audible. I can barely hear CPU fan when I open the case, while PSU and GPU are 0db.

CPU temp is ~32C, GPU ~40.


So, is it possible to expect something similar from C7 (with case being 1m away from me on the desk), just with higher temps? I really don't mind higher temps, as long as they don't cause home fire :D
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If you're not overclocking, it SHOULD be very quiet. You can also control your fans to stay slow under most conditions.
 
The Sf psu Fans are temperature controlled.. my sf 450 doesnt even turn on the fan @ 160Watt loud
 
tviceman said:
Thanks for not only your condescending attitude, but also regurgitating to me much of which I already know without providing a single shred of useful information. Your contribution and attitude are indicative of abrasive personality issues (or perhaps a severe lack of manners), but I'm sure you're numb to observations like this by now.
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nope just sick of dumb shit around here and not holding my tongue as much as I used to. sounds like you are a little over sensitive if you took that as condescending and abrasive. sorry was that too harsh too?!
look through my past postings, theyre polite, very little attitude and a lot of help. until very recently when ive become sick of all the bullshit around here. noobs not doing a little searching and asking the same things over and over, one person making suggestions then acting like its the end of the world if they don't get exactly what THEY want, the constant internet knowledge pissing contests etc etc.
sorry aboot that
 
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mirgus said:
The Sf psu Fans are temperature controlled.. my sf 450 doesnt even turn on the fan @ 160Watt loud
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But the temperature of the PSU is used on the load by design, so if you're going for basically a completely silent system, a higher wattage PSU means that there is less heat generated and thus the fan will not spin up.
 
pendragon1 said:
nope just sick of dumb shit around here and not holding my tongue as much as I used to. sounds like you are a little over sensitive if you took that as condescending and abrasive. sorry was that too harsh too?!
look through my past postings, theyre polite, very little attitude and a lot of help. until very recently when ive become sick of all the bullshit around here. noobs not doing a little searching and asking the same things over and over, one person making suggestions then acting like its the end of the world if they don't get exactly what THEY want, the constant internet knowledge pissing contests etc etc.
sorry aboot that
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pendragon1 said:
nope just sick of dumb shit around here and not holding my tongue as much as I used to. sounds like you are a little over sensitive if you took that as condescending and abrasive. sorry was that too harsh too?!
look through my past postings, theyre polite, very little attitude and a lot of help. until very recently when ive become sick of all the bullshit around here. noobs not doing a little searching and asking the same things over and over, one person making suggestions then acting like its the end of the world if they don't get exactly what THEY want, the constant internet knowledge pissing contests etc etc.
sorry aboot that
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+1


I like this man. Keep keeping it real although be careful of the name calling. Lots of anxious people here as they eagerly await their Dan A4!
 
I wasn't name calling and I totally get what you mean about being careful. I got banned a couple months ago for the first time, ive been here since '98, for spelling out douche bag in response to someone that claimed I couldn't spell. I didnt directly call him one but it was implied and that was enough I guess for a week vacay. lol
 
I've got my SF600 sitting right next to me, my 7700K on the way ($329 right now on antonline at ebay for those of us in US), plus 16GB of 3000mhz Team Vulcan RAM ($70 @ Jet.com) and 1TB m.2 MX300 ($249 Newegg flash deal) en route. Just waiting to get the mobo (either MSI or Asus at this point), and sweat over whether I just say "fuck it" and buy a Titan X or wait until whenever the Ti comes out. I have already decided I'm not "settling" for a 1080. And no offense to anyone with a 1080, it's a great card. I'm just intentionally going over the top for this build. And I guess I decided on the C7 over the L9i...1/3 the price when taking into account also getting the 25mm A9 or B9 fan, good reviews from Dan. Much savings, very wow.

I feel a creeping dread that there is no way in hell I will be able to wait until I get my hands on a 1080Ti (taking into consideration how crazy it is on release, even assuming I can wait that long), and instead I am going to spend $1200 on a card that may get outclassed, price to performance wise, just weeks after I get my hands on it...
 
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illram said:
I've got my SF600 sitting right next to me, my 7700K on the way ($329 right now on antonline at ebay for those of us in US), plus 16GB of 3000mhz Team Vulcan RAM ($70 @ Jet.com) and 1TB m.2 MX300 ($249 Newegg flash deal) en route. Just waiting to get the mobo (either MSI or Asus at this point), and sweat over whether I just say "fuck it" and buy a Titan X or wait until whenever the Ti comes out. I have already decided I'm not "settling" for a 1080. And no offense to anyone with a 1080, it's a great card. I'm just intentionally going over the top for this build.

I feel a creeping dread that there is no way in hell I will be able to wait until I get my hands on a 1080Ti (taking into consideration how crazy it is on release, even assuming I can wait that long), and instead I am going to spend $1200 on a card that may get outclassed, price to performance wise, just weeks after I get my hands on it...
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Settle for a 1060 or RX 480 until the release of the 1080ti, then sell the RX480 on Craigslit, Reddit, or other avenue of your choice.
 
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What i dont like about the titan is that its hot, noisy and will throttle with the stock cooler. The cooler was designed for the 1080 TDP and the titan XP heat output is well above that

Unfortunately there are no AIB titan xps with better coolers but assuming nvidia doesnt gimp the 1080ti too much compared to the titan xp, i am thinking a good AIB card like the EVGA ACX (soon to be called ICX) will come very close to titan xp performance with much better noise/thermals/throttling behaviour. So i'll wait for one to drop...though having a 1080FE on hand in my current build does make the waiting much easier...
 
There are things in life, where you shouldnt go cheap. The 3M Cables are by far the best on the market and guarantee no issues. Thats why i wouldnt even use a Riser cable from another brand even if its 20$ cheaper.
Just my opinion
 
Hajzenberg said:
Looking at the noise graphs i had an impression that SF450 is more quiet, although SF600's fan kicks in at 120W vs 450's 90W.
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You didn't consider the different X-axes. I've overlayed them which makes it much clearer:
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The SF600 is never louder than the 450 although that steeper jump at 120W may be more noticeable but since the fan is temperature controlled an the temperature always rises gradually you will probably not get that jump in real life at all.
 
Hajzenberg said:
Is it realistic to expect silence from setup made of this components (without setting my house on fire)?

6600k non OC
Cryorig C7 (or something similiar available in Italy or Hungary)
Strix Z270I mobo
ASUS Strix 1060
Corsair SF450

And when I say silence, I really mean silence. I'm currently running system on Z170-A board, in spacey mid tower case with LC-CC-120 CPU fan @670rpm (212 EVO equivalent), case is under desk, ~70 cm away from me, and it is really non audible. I can barely hear CPU fan when I open the case, while PSU and GPU are 0db.

CPU temp is ~32C, GPU ~40.


So, is it possible to expect something similar from C7 (with case being 1m away from me on the desk), just with higher temps? I really don't mind higher temps, as long as they don't cause home fire :D
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Not with that CPU and the c7, no. At least not under load.
When I had the c7 on my 3570k (stock, delidded/ relidded) it got way too loud for my tastes under gaming loads. If you don't already have the CPU is recommended getting a 6600t instead, it if you already bought it, underclocking and undercoating it to as close to 6600t levels as you can.
 
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When I had the c7 on my 3570k (StOCK, delidded/ relidded) it got way too loud for my tastes under gaming loads. If you don't already have the CPU is recommended getting a 6600t instead
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I think this is hard to believe. I currently have the i5-3570k running under a Noctua NH-L9i without any case at all. Both coolers should perform more or less the same. I am currently running the CPU at 4,3 Ghz with 1,20V. The temperatures never rise above 90°C. at 4,1Ghz and 1,07V I barely hit 70°C. I don't see why you should have such huge problems with your C7 at stock settings in the DAN A4..
 
Shaav said:
I think this is hard to believe. I currently have the i5-3570k running under a Noctua NH-L9i without any case at all. Both coolers should perform more or less the same. I am currently running the CPU at 4,3 Ghz with 1,20V. The temperatures never rise above 90°C. at 4,1Ghz and 1,07V I barely hit 70°C. I don't see why you should have such huge problems with your C7 at stock settings in the DAN A4..
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The c7 cooled fine, but it was loud. Which is what hajzenberg was asking about
 
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