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He should have gone with a Corsair SF600 PSU, would have more room for cables to tuck away…
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DAN A4-SFX: The smallest gaming case in the world
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He should have gone with a Corsair SF600 PSU, would have more room for cables to tuck away…
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That's a lot more cables than I see on Dan's picture on page 1. Maybe Linus uses longer cables? Most SFX PSUs already come with pretty short cables.
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The pictured PSU is a SFX-L unit, measuring 130mm in length. The Corsair SF600 is a SFX unit, measuring 100mm in length. Using the Corsair gives an additional 30mm of cable space.
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It's the same PSU in this picture minus the cable clutter but everything seems to be connected.
Hi dondan,
First of all, i know it's a little bit late, but congratulations on kickstarter campaing =D
I dont know if you already said something, but can you give us a little update on how the things are going? Do you still think you will be able to start shipping on October?
First of all, i know it's a little bit late, but congratulations on kickstarter campaing =D
I dont know if you already said something, but can you give us a little update on how the things are going? Do you still think you will be able to start shipping on October?
Or he should have used the flat ribbon cables. Custom sleeving in this case is wasted effort, unless you're doing it for optimizing cable length.
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Linus cables are sleeved, which are bulkier than the ribbon-y cables the psu comes with.
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Wouldn't extnesions make your cables even longer?
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- I don’t need your stock cables
- You’re paying for a completely new modular cable
- I use high quality products (Connectors|Pins|Paracord|16 gauge wire)
- I can make the cable in ANY of my available colors
- You can choose as many colors as you want at NO EXTRA CHARGE
- I can arrange multiple colors in any pattern you want at NO EXTRA CHARGE
- I can make the cables shorter if you have a smaller build at NO EXTRA CHARGE
- I can make the cables longer if you have a bigger build but you need to contact me first
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A small Update for all x99 socket 2011-3 Narrow Ilm lovers.
Today I got a second C7 from Cryorig, I will make a custom bracket to fit on Narrow Ilm.
Also I got a Nexus LOW-7000 R2 (a older nearly sold out heatsink). With a 120mm FAN under the heatsink it will fit inside the case. I also make a custom bracket for the Nexus to fit on Narrow Ilm. The Nexus has direct attached heatpipes and is nearly the biggest cooler that fit inside the case.
The mission is 4Ghz oc on 6 cores inside the A4-SFX.
Today I got a second C7 from Cryorig, I will make a custom bracket to fit on Narrow Ilm.
Also I got a Nexus LOW-7000 R2 (a older nearly sold out heatsink). With a 120mm FAN under the heatsink it will fit inside the case. I also make a custom bracket for the Nexus to fit on Narrow Ilm. The Nexus has direct attached heatpipes and is nearly the biggest cooler that fit inside the case.
The mission is 4Ghz oc on 6 cores inside the A4-SFX.
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As someone with an X99E-ITX board, thumbs up to this update! Looking at pictures of the Nexus LOW-7000, are you removing the finned portion that's on top of the CPU socket (the piece in picture 2) to fit the 120mm fan or does it fit without modification? Also, as a more modern alternative to the Nexus LOW-7000, do you think the Thermalright AXP 100 would work in a similar way? The two support wires would need to be clipped, but it looks like a fan would fit between the fins and base. Thanks for all your work!
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Aw yess. Can't wait!
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You can easily unscrew the finned portion. So the only thing you need is a custom bracket for mounting on 2011-3 Narrow Ilm.
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And what do you think of this heatsink with a custom bracket?
Scythe Kozuti SCKZT-1000
I already have a Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B and a Dynatron T318, so I expect the case to see and try several different fans and heatsink with my X99E-ITX board...
Scythe Kozuti SCKZT-1000
I already have a Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B and a Dynatron T318, so I expect the case to see and try several different fans and heatsink with my X99E-ITX board...
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I think it is not powerfull enough.
Hi Dan,
This fantastic news. As someone who has been using the Dynatron T318 cooler coupled with the Thermalright TY-100 fan, I have to say that I've been unimpressed with cooling performance even with undervolting the CPU.
Do you plan on selling the C7 and LOW-7000 R2 Narrow ILM brackets with the case, or separately to those interested? Looking forward to hearing more!
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Maybe I will make a tiny charge of 20 brackets, that I will separately.
Excellent! Looking forward to hearing more.
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In the comments people are saying that the 1080 might not fit, but what will not fit is that cooler in the pic, unless he is planning a fanless build which I hope he is not. Dan was saying Linus sourced a C7 from cryorig so I'm not sure what is going on.
That doesn't look like a very high-end Mobo, but I am not sure what model it is. Also I think a larger multi-fan open air gpu would perform better as was previously demonstrated by Dan.
Oh I see, this is the xeon build with the skylake build coming later I guess.
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In the first post of this thread, Dan says a 1080FE fits in the A4.
Yes, that is what I am trying to point out. The commenters are coming to conclusions about the capabilities of the case while obviously doing 0 research, yet noone points out that this case cannot fit a 65mm cooler.
That is the state of the "common" consumer. Misinformed and unwilling to do any research. Then they'll wait for reviewers to get information that's already out there. I guess 5 min of research is too hard for most folks. So many talks about the gtx 1080 not fitting, temps going out the roof, etc.
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Hey everyone,
I just registered here to participate in an awesome thread about an awesome case. Due to financial shortcomings at the very moment I couldn't support the kickstarter campaign. But I plan on buying an A4-SFX once the next batch will be available for purchase. Having said that, I already ordered an Cryorig C7 and have been planning the rest of the build. But there a few things I'm not certain about yet...
Dan himself mentioned that the i7-6700 might be a better fit for most users than the i7-6700K since it'll allow for a more silent and cooler system while ending up with very similar performance. So my question is: Will a C7 be sufficient enough to cool a 6700K with a small overlock at a silent level/less than 100% rpm? Or do you think that the lower TDP of 65W of the i7-6700 will be a better match? But then again, according to silentpcreview - like illram has pointed out - the i7-6700 is much closer to the K variant in power consumption (tested here) than suggested. I really don't know what do at this point... Maybe even wait for Cannonlake?
The other decision I'm uncertain about is the GPU. I've pinned it down to 3 cards by now:
I just registered here to participate in an awesome thread about an awesome case. Due to financial shortcomings at the very moment I couldn't support the kickstarter campaign. But I plan on buying an A4-SFX once the next batch will be available for purchase. Having said that, I already ordered an Cryorig C7 and have been planning the rest of the build. But there a few things I'm not certain about yet...
Dan himself mentioned that the i7-6700 might be a better fit for most users than the i7-6700K since it'll allow for a more silent and cooler system while ending up with very similar performance. So my question is: Will a C7 be sufficient enough to cool a 6700K with a small overlock at a silent level/less than 100% rpm? Or do you think that the lower TDP of 65W of the i7-6700 will be a better match? But then again, according to silentpcreview - like illram has pointed out - the i7-6700 is much closer to the K variant in power consumption (tested here) than suggested. I really don't know what do at this point... Maybe even wait for Cannonlake?
The other decision I'm uncertain about is the GPU. I've pinned it down to 3 cards by now:
- EVGA GTX 1070 SC (nice review at techpowerup)
- EVGA GTX 1070 FTW (wondering if it'll be even quieter and cooler due to 10mm bigger fans and beefier heatsinks than the SC, but unfortunately no reviews of both EVGA cards from the same source so far)
- MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X (a bit worried about size)
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Can't say much about the rpm of the c7, but in this review it handled a 6700k at 1.25v quite well (see the temp chart as main review is about the c1), so at least a small oc should be possible.
http://www.funkykit.com/reviews/cooling/cryorig-r1universal-cooler-review/3/
Gpu wise, I think the bigger fan solution might be best. I think Dan previously mentioned the possibility of trying out the MSI, but at the time sounded uncertain whether he would purchase one.
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IMO. If you are going for a new build, and the build will be around Dan A4-SFX case, which you won't be buying/receiving until after early 2017, I would recommend you to wait for Kaby Lake. About the CPU is up to you, here in Europe the low TDP versions of the i7 are more expensive, and as you saw on the graphics, the temperatures and power draw are similar on the real world. I would keep the K version whether you OC it or not. The K version is a bit more powerful than the other versions, and if you want to OC on the future, you still have the option to, though I wouldn't on Dan's case.
I will go for the 1070 too, but I will wait until I receive my case to see if the price drops at least 50 euros. I liked the EVGA because it requires only 1 [8 pin] connector, though I want the MSI gaming X if it fits (to reduce noise at maximum and because I would like to add a window to show the card at some point). Although I might end up buying EVGA, because in the end the main source of noise in the case will be the PSU, and not the CPU or VGA cooler.
Thanks for the link KarateOC
Edit: Cannonlake will be the next tick / die shrink, so I don't expect Kaby Lake to use less W...
Thanks for your advice. According to TPU the EVGA GTX 1070 SC is even quieter than the MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X (29 vs 30 dBA). Apart from that - imho - the EVGA card looks better as well.
Edit: Cannonlake will be the next tick / die shrink, so I don't expect Kaby Lake to use less W...
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Just need the C7 to be on sale on Amazon.co.uk too now...
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That's great. I wonder if they are now shipping with additional fan clips.
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I don't know why Linus is using that server board for his ultimate-maximum-everything build. If he wants to use a Xeon or a Broadwell-E chip, he can just use the ASRock X99E-ITX/ac. The only advantage the server board has is 4 SODIMM slots for quad-channel memory, but honestly dual-channel vs quad-channel is virtually indistinguishable in the real world. I guess he used the X99E-ITX/ac for his previous ultra small build in the SG13, so he wanted to do something different this time. But he may have gone too far, I mean that board doesn't have audio and just 2 USB ports... it's for servers. So I don't know where he plans to get audio from. He could plug in an external DAC, but that would only leave him with 1 USB port, and he'll need 2 more for mouse and keyboard. I guess he could use the front USB port too, but... it'll have to stay permanently plugged in. Or a USB hub. It'll be a little silly for a showoff build to have all of those dongles, especially when you're trying to sell the notion of supersmall. That board is severely underspecced for consumer use and I worry the build may give newbie builders the wrong impression that the A4-SFX only supports SODIMMs and/or boards with limited IO or something... I guess we'll find out on Monday. I can see why Linus is excited about this project though as it combines his 2 passions - SFF and server stuff. And he's also doing a regular Skylake build, but I think most people would be more interested in his ultimate power build. His previous smallest ultrapoweful build video got 1.5 million views, so this may just by far exceed all the exposure the A4-SFX has gotten so far... so I hope he does a good job and represents the case well.
And he's also doing a regular Skylake build, but I think most people would be more interested in his ultimate power build. His previous smallest ultrapoweful build video got 1.5 million views, so this may just by far exceed all the exposure the A4-SFX has gotten so far... so I hope he does a good job and represents the case well.
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Dan, my 6800K is overclocked to 4.2GHz in the ASRock X99E-ITX/ac at 1.25v VCore and 1.2v cache, and it consumes 120W at full load with synthetic tests. That's as high as the chip will go without requiring ridiculous voltage (i.e. 1.45-1.5v). And your Dynatron T318 solution is rated at 140W, so you already support enthusiast line Intel chips OCed pretty much as far as they will go at safe voltages. It's just a matter of noise, but the support is there.
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I can ask them for you
Thank you, Dan. I appreciate it.
Last night, I was checking the Cryorig C7 on Amazon and read some of the questions answered by Cryorig Official Store representative. Then I saw this,
I searched the web for any 92mm x 10mm fans and found nothing. The closest I could find were the Noctua NF-A9x14 (92mm x 14mm), and the Scythe Kaze Jyu Slim (100mm x12mm with mounting holes for 92mm).
The 10mm they're referring to is the one in red, or the one in the blue?
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