Cyberpunk 2077: Official Thread

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  1. SomeoneElse

    SomeoneElse [H]ard|Gawd

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    They have had female characters in lead roles WAY before she was even in the picture. This whole ideal she is somehow a pioneer is silly. She was in it to profit from being outraged. I don't condone actions guys take while playing with girls and the way teen-aged boys treat girls but slamming a button just to slam it isn't good for anyone. Do we actually have proof she plays games? i've never heard of her before this to be honest. Does she do twitch streams to provide the proof? I mean look at the whole zombie unicorn stuff, she's a gamer but she exploits herself.....i mean come-on the hypocrisy is thick around these people.
     
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  2. jiminator

    jiminator Capt Obvious

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    outrage content is a thing, it gets clicks. lots of people on that bandwagon, not just her. marco has a reference to content like that here.

     
  3. Armenius

    Armenius I Drive Myself to the [H]ospital

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    I see you have drank the Kool Aid. Have you not played video games in the past 30 years? There is plenty of content out there rebutting her arguments, but since she is a woman in <current_year> disagreement is sexist and potentially rape. In my opinion the biggest issue with her arguments and others like her are that they are purely concerned about surface-level qualities. That's how you know she's not a real gamer: she doesn't care about the character backgrounds, story, or universe in which they exist.

    During Gamergate we referred to her and others as "Literally Who" in order to not give them attention.
    She straight up says in a video of one of her presentations while she was still in college that she doesn't play video games. She started streaming on Twitch a few years ago to try and gain cred, though.
     
  4. NoOther

    NoOther [H]ardness Supreme

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    Did she though? See I completely disagree. Companies were already in the process of doing that. There was already an honest, productive and good discussion going on about that, which included female game devs and women that actually were gamers and played games. Anita was never a gamer and had zero experience with the current games or the gaming industry at all. She made everything about "oppression" and "hate" and "men are evil". There was never any honest productive or positive elements to her discussions. Her videos and views were widely debunked even by feminists. She went broke not because of men, but because feminists hated her and refused to support her. She really nailed her coffin with her nonsense in Anthem. For better or worse, she linked her success in that industry to the success of that game. Once that flopped her last source of income flopped, which is why she was out begging for companies to hire her. She emobodied everything she said she hated about gamers. She was abusive, intolerant, non-educated, un-informed, exclusive, and wouldn't accept any idea outside of her own. She is actually one of the reasons women are leaving the feminist movement.

    Just for reference:

    Not a Gamer

    Hypocrite

    All about being attacked, not about positive ways to promote women

    How she interacts with people, even people who were her fans

    In the end, she mismanaged money, didn't pay her staff, and finally had to close just about everything down. Almost everything she touched became diseased by her incendiary tactics.
     
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  5. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Not really. Women had been portrayed well in games for quite some time. Not all games, but the 'representation' was definitely there.

    What this woman has done is use her selective, opportunistic outrage to target artistic freedom. She is in no way 'useful'.
     
  6. J3RK

    J3RK [H]ardForum Junkie

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    All this aside. There's nothing wrong with eye candy either. A world with the label of Cyberpunk should be filled with both beauty and abomination on every scale. Real and gritty and sexy objectified alike. This world should contain ALL of it. If that makes one uncomfortable, then one should play in a different world. Like the Mushroom Kingdom or Hyrule perhaps.
     
  7. Derangel

    Derangel [H]ard as it Gets

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    Bull. She didn't do anything but create an "outrage industry" within video games. She tried to force her way into companies in order to get them to give her money for "consulting". Let's not forget that just a few weeks ago she was whining on Twitter that EA didn't just give her money for no reason on the back of EA talking about charity work. She tried to make a company giving money to charities into something solely about her and how they're not giving her money. It's classic narcissism. People like Anita will never have anything positive to contribute to society because they are entirely obsessed with themselves and do not care, one bit, about anything else. Anita did nothing but radicalize people and turn any chance of there being good, honest, conversation about these topics into a toxic cesspit.

    You want to know what really caused there to be more women in games? Industry data showing that there are more women buying games and industry surveys showing there is a market for more games with female leads. Companies like DontNod talking about struggles getting games approved with female leads would have happened without Anita. Developers putting more female leads in games, or giving gamers more options, would have happened without Anita. What wouldn't have happened without all this bullshit is outrage culture infecting video games. Anita, Zoe Quinn, GG, whatever. Outrage culture has created nothing good and contributed nothing worthwhile to any industry.

    No one is saying she isn't a "real gamer" due to hours played, they say it because there was never any evidence that she even liked or played video games period. Being a fan of something (which is what the term implies) kind of requires you to actually like it.
     
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  8. jiminator

    jiminator Capt Obvious

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    if she is irrelevant then she should just be ignored and then who cares? but based on the people having continual reactions and making videos about anything she does it would appear she is hitting a nerve. outrage. same thing applies to this thread.
     
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    Like many arsehats, she has come to represent female outrage artists in the gaming world. Her image persists as an example of what not to do.
     
  10. Aireoth

    Aireoth 2[H]4U

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    Keep shrieking into the void Sarkeesian, one day it’ll consume you.
     
  11. NoOther

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    Yes, one of the main points of Cyberpunk is to make one a bit uncomfortable. The whole world is about corporate exploitation and loss of "humanity". So the very thing it is being critiqued on is the entire point of the game and the world. And if these people attacking it actually spent more time understanding the Cyberpunk world, they would see that it is actually supporting some of their points. The irony is astounding.
     
  12. Aireoth

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    It isn't about their point, its about clicks.

    1. Pick popular project.
    2. Review info on project to find or manufacture grievances.
    3. Make article/video to voice the ‘outrage’.
    4. Clicks.
    5. Profit, rinse and repeat.
     
  13. GOD'SlittleSERVANT

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    This sucks. Cyberpunk went from the most anticipated game of the Century to a bunch of grown ass adults whining about bullshit.
     
  14. Aireoth

    Aireoth 2[H]4U

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    I already bought it, what more do you want :p
     
  15. Factum

    Factum [H]ard|Gawd

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    Name one point she got right?
    This is when I first encountered her and her lies (2014):
     
  16. northrop

    northrop grumman

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    I bought it twice :p
     
  17. Lmah2x

    Lmah2x Gawd

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    I never heard of this girl til the Cyberpunk thing, but I usually don't follow gaming news sites. This video is hilarious though, never really saw someone play Hitman like that and I watch a lot of Hitman content.
     
  18. Krenum

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    No idea, man. I'm just here for the bewbs
     
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  20. Q-BZ

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    All in. All the way. Whatever it takes.
     
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  21. NoOther

    NoOther [H]ardness Supreme

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    It doesn't matter anymore because she has now effectively made herself broke and irrelevant.
     
  22. Damar

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    This is for the PS4 version but still... holy moly.... Wonder what the final total for PC will be. :p

    https://gamerant.com/cyberpunk-2077-file-size/

    The description for Cyberpunk 2077 on the PlayStation Store reveals that the game will take up at least 80GB of space on the PS4’s hard drive. CD Projekt RED is probably still optimizing the game to make it as storage friendly as possible and with just under 10 months to go until the game’s release, some assets could be made much smaller. However, if the game does end up being around 80GB, some PS4 players may end up needing to buy an external hard drive.
     
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    Not unheard of, a number of games already take up more space.
     
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  24. J3RK

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    My id games are up in that neighborhood. I could almost maybe perhaps see this as a very mild concern for console owners. However, knowing the company, seeing the existing footage, if they said tomorrow that it needs even more than 80, I’ll click my mouse a few times and give the game its own drive.
     
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  25. polonyc2

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    2020- Cyberpunk 2077 and Elden Ring!...only thing that could make it better is Half Life 3
     
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  26. J3RK

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    I’ll take Doom Eternal for HL3, but the sentiment is the same.
     
  27. Lateralus

    Lateralus More [H]uman than Human

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    Hahaha, I'm with you. They could tell me that one of the system requirements was its own dedicated 1TB SSD and I'd be down. :D
     
  28. Armenius

    Armenius I Drive Myself to the [H]ospital

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    DOOM Eternal comes out this year ;).
    Considering one can buy a 1TB SSD for < $100 these days, no problem :cool:.
     
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    Barely. :D


    No, I wasn't paying enough attention...
     
  30. jiminator

    jiminator Capt Obvious

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    So there have been stories out about different teams working on different games in the cyberpunk universe.... and cyberpunk is going to have playable origin stories same as original dragon age....

    I think what will happen is that these different games will actually be the different origin stories in the main game. will be interesting to see.
     
  31. Derangel

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    They have three teams working on this game, not three different games.
     
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  32. northrop

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    In fact, it is 3 different games in a CP universe, though the rumors are rather vague right now. At least, that's how it was presented in the news article.

    Main team is working on the CP2077 core game.
    They have a small team (around 40 people) working on a multipleyer game set in Cyberpunk universe
    And the third team is also working on a game set in the CP universe (ex-pack?)

    They also have their mobile division working on a another project (presumably Witcher or Gwent based), and then the fifth team is working on something else entirely.
     
  33. Derangel

    Derangel [H]ard as it Gets

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    No it is not. The rumor was based on a shitty Google translation. CDP has clarified that that they are not working on three Cyberpunk games. Three of their five teams are working on Cyberpunk 2077. Google Translated fucked up (as it often does) and mixed up what was said. I’ll edit this post with a link to an article clearing up the mess when I get home, but if you want to look for yourself there is an article at PCGamer taking about it.
     
  34. TheToE!

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    I'm at the point where there isn't much I wouldn't do to support CDPR.
     
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  35. northrop

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    I stand corrected. Looks like they clarified their statement just a bit.

    It reads:

     
  36. CaptNumbNutz

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    At work, can't watch, but can't wait. cliffs notes please.
     
  38. CaptNumbNutz

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    Basically, CDPR has an ARG going on until the game launches. Puzzles, files to download and decrypt, secret messages, clues hidden in real world and the net, etc.
     
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  39. DWolvin

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    Cool! I have no use personally, but rather like to follow the args to see how far down the rabbit hole they went.

    Complete side note, were there any big reasons to preorder? I'm willing to break my rule for this team...
     
  40. J3RK

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    Agreed. Not my thing, but always fun to hear about these. I didn't really see a reason to preorder, but I will probably do so at some point. I'm not in a hurry, (and wouldn't mind following the news a bit longer just to weed out any unwanted surprises) but I'm all for handing them my money :D