- Jul 25, 2008
Thanks. I wondered about the size, good point. With the depth of my desk I may stick to the 40-43" range.
In November 2003, TCL and Thomson SA of France announced the creation of a joint venture to produce televisions and DVD players worldwide. TCL took a 67 percent stake in the joint venture, with Thomson SA holding the rest of the shares, and it was agreed that televisions made by TCL-Thomson would be marketed under the TCL brand in Asia and the Thomson and RCA brands in Europe and North America.
In April 2004, TCL and Alcatel announced the creation of a mobile phone manufacturing joint venture: Alcatel Mobile Phones. TCL injected 55 million euros in the venture in return for a 55 per cent shareholding.
In May 2005, TCL announced that its Hong Kong-listed unit would acquire Alcatel's 45 per cent stake in their mobile-phone joint venture for consideration of HK$63.34 million ($8.1 million) worth of TCL Communication shares.
In June 2007, TCL announced that its mobile phone division planned to cease using the Alcatel brand and switch entirely to the TCL brand within five years.
In April 2008, Samsung Electronics announced that it would be outsourcing the production of some LCD TV modules to TCL.
In July 2008, TCL announced that it planned to raise 1.7 billion yuan ($249 million) via a share placement on the Shenzhen Stock Exchange to fund the construction of two production lines for LCD televisions; one for screens of up to 42 inches, and the other for screens of up to 56 inches. TCL sold a total of 4.18 million LCD TV sets in 2008, more than triple the number during 2007.
In January 2009, TCL announced plans to double its LCD TV production capacity to 10 million units by the end of 2009.
In November 2009, TCL announced that it had formed a joint-venture with the Shenzhen government to construct an 8.5-generation thin film transistor-liquid crystal display production facility in the city at a cost of $3.9 billion.
In March 2010, TCL Multimedia raised HK$525 million through the sale of shares on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, in order to fund the development of its LCD and LED businesses and to generate working capital.
In May 2011, TCL launched the China Smart Multimedia Terminal Technology Association in partnership with Hisense Electric Co. and Sichuan Changhong Electric Co., with the aim of helping to establish industry standards for smart televisions.
In January 2013, TCL bought the naming rights for Grauman's Chinese Theatre for $5 million.
Grauman's Chinese Theatre, or TCL Chinese Theatre at Hollywood, California.
In 2014, TCL changed the meaning of its identifying initials from "Telephone Communication Limited" to a branding slogan, "The Creative Life", for commercial purposes.
In February 2014, TCL spent 280 million RMB to purchase 11% shareholdings of Tianjin 712 Communication & Broadcasting Co., Ltd, a Chinese military-owned company which produces communication devices and navigation systems for the Chinese army.
In October 2014, TCL acquired the Palm brand from HP for use on smartphones.
In 2016, TCL reached an agreement with BlackBerry Limited to produce smartphones under the BlackBerry brand, under BlackBerry Mobile.
The No-Baggage Brand
TCL’s recent entry into the North American market gave it a key advantage over legacy brands: It had a completely blank slate to define itself and its target market in anyway it wanted. “When we decided North America was worth a run, rather than buy or try to rent a brand, we put all our efforts into growing the TCL brand with the idea that, although there’s zero brand recognition, there’s also no baggage or negatives associated with it,” Larson says.
According to Larson, the company made sure to identify what the American consumer specifically looks for in TVs, and to position its brand to fill that slot. In this case, that meant making sets that were on the less-expensive side ("price conscious," as Larson puts it), but also had large screens and future-proofing frills such as 4K resolution—a type of content that is currently far more plentiful in the US than many other markets. To give a sense of how this plays out in production, the company's top-selling 32-inch model sells for $169 on Amazon, while a just-released 55-inch 4K goes for $500—far less than similarly sized 4K models from other manufacturers.
TCL TVs come with built-in Roku streaming software (photo: TCL)
Many TV manufacturers cobble their sets together out of components that come from a variety of suppliers. Problem is, this process creates middle men that keep costs up, and could have implications for a brand’s ability to quickly iterate and release new products.
“TCL is almost completely vertically integrated,” Larson says. “We’re among the top five panel producers in the world. We make our own plastic. We mold our own cabinets. We make our boards. We even have a factory that makes speaker drivers. The only thing we have to buy, really, is the main processor and the memory that goes along with that.”
According to Larson, owning its supply chain allows TCL to release new sets far faster—and cheaper—than is possible at competing companies that typically have to wait for suppliers to send them samples before they can finish designing their upcoming TVs.
“By the time you fit the electronics in there, and the back light, and the module, you may be off two to three millimeters from what your original design had,” Larson says. “We know exactly what is going to be coming off the line in four, five, or six months, and can design a TV around it today.”
i just bought a TCL 43" 4k VA last week on sale at target for $300 after reading this review on rtings. It's not 120hz display refresh rate but the 120hz pwm strobing looks great to me so far,
Damn, I was hoping maybe they use the same AUO VA panel that Samsung 43'' MU6xxx TV-s use in EU. Seems like a very good and fast VA panel.
I know it's a lot bigger that 40-43", but I was looking at the Samsung 55NU8500 CURVED 55” to replace my 40" Samsung JU6700. (NU8500 is about $800 refurbished and about $1000 new on amazon) Anyone have any experience with this TV as a monitor or for gaming?
The Rtings review give it a decent rating, but interested to see real world use if possible. Thanks!
Do they not make the 48/49" class anymore? If not, that's a shame. I am using a 55" LG OLED and if I could go smaller while retaining the same image quality, I would. I've used 40" and 48" previously...55" is absolutely the upper limit of what I want to use.
It's too bad you aren't closer - I'd sell you my UN48JS9000 which is curved and would be an upgrade from your JU6700.
Has anybody played around or have thoughts on the new Vizio 2018 E43-F1 by chance? I know rtings.com gave it a 8.0 as a pc monitor.
I picked up a refurbished Acer ET430k three weeks ago from the certified refurbished store and I've been pretty happy with it for movies and casual gaming.
I noticed that you said the Vizio E43 looks crappy and I asked about the same tv in a subsequent post - sorry about that.The 43s405 does use AUO VA.
It's likely a B-grade panel though, because you can see uniformity issues on a gray screen.
No dead pixels though.
I took it apart and posted a thread about it a few months ago.
The 49" TCL uses TCL's own CSOT factory panel
Have you noticed any screen blanking / black screen issues? That seemed to be a major complaint on the Amazon and Newegg reviews. Of course I always wonder... how many of those were cable problems...
I saw those on sale too for like $299... I couldn't pull the trigger then but I wish I had.
I just bought an Acer refurb laptop and it looks brand new, for nearly half the price. So I'm not too scared of their "refurbs".
Edit - I see the refurbs again on Amazon ($309) and ebay ($312) from Acer refurb seller. I know the ebay Acer store charges sales tax, like they did on the laptop I just bought. So I'd need to see another 15% off ebay coupon to swing me that way, since I always have Amazon GC to burn.
I have a Samsung 40 inch 4K UHD TV Model KU6290
I bought this from BEST BUY for $299.99 in December of 2016 and I've been using it as a PC monitor.
I've been very happy BUT it just died on me. I talked to a TV repair guy and he says that it will probably be $125-150 to fix it. Mind you this is without him seeing it.
I wonder if I should do that or just get something new. Right now BEST BUY has the Samsung 43 inch 4K UHD TV Model NU-6900 for $277.99
I'm not sure if this is "as good" as my old model. Also I'm a bit scared of going with Samsung again. A TV should last more than 2 years before needing repaired (sigh)
Any ideas on another model that is around $300 or so? The only choice I see that seems like it MIGHT be decent is the TCL 43S405 which is $279.99 from BEST BUY right now.
The VIZIO mentioned above might be an option but ... and no offense to user deruberhanyok ... but it seems that he is the singular voice saying that this Vizio doesn't suffer from various problems everyone else seems to "see"
Sigh. I'm not sure what to do.
I'm almost tempted to just buy a dedicated 32 inch computer monitor like the LG 32MA70HY-P which is an IPS Panel at 1080p (to be honest I do all my gaming at 1080p anyway since I don't have the graphics power to do 4K and 1080p looked perfectly fine to me on my Samsung 4K UHD TV).