Crossover 44K 40" 4k - PWM free - 144Hz@1080p

The stand looks terrible, but everything else is really spot on. I look forward to a review.
 
So i got mine yesterday. I made a couple quick vids that i will edit and post probably tomorrow. I hate to be a spoiler but after testing it with 2 different displayport cables (both of which do 4k @60hz just fine).,. The Crossover 44k Will Not properly display 120hz @ 1440p nor will it do 144Hz at 1080p. mad.gif .. It advertises both and simply doesn't. You can force an overclock in Nvidia Control Panel but ther is no difference in smoothness of movement what so ever.. Hate to be the bringer of bad news guys. I did try both displayport with both cables and even tried a DVI-D at 1080p and 1440p with the same disappointing results. 4K at 60Hz however looks very good while gaming and the input lag is not noticeable. Im using a GTX 980 btw.. If you guys expecting delivery today get it set up, please test your resolutions and frequency to see if you get the same results.
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Yeah, I would definitely avoid buying anything that can't be returned no matter the price.
 
have patience and believe in market forces.

we will have a 40" PWM free 4k screen with true 1080p 120Hz somewhere around next semester: at least Seiki has promised such a monitor, i also doubt that Philips will stay quiet on this front.

i really doubt the koreans are capable of pulling the 4k technical trifecta when they failed so much for so long on the 1440p arena.
 
geok1ng said:
have patience and believe in market forces.

we will have a 40" PWM free 4k screen with true 1080p 120Hz somewhere around next semester: at least Seiki has promised such a monitor, i also doubt that Philips will stay quiet on this front.
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I hope you are right.
I would love to see a VA panel 4k monitor do 1080p@120hz with perfect 4:1 scaling or a 5k monitor capable of doing 1440p@120hz with perfect scaling. Add backlight strobing and a nice curvature to eliminate black crush and we got the dream monitor.
 
I love VA, specially semi-gloss AMVA. But after a week with my Dell 2515h i can say that 1:1000 contrast feels much better than the old 1:600 contrast of old IPS.

It can be VA, it can be IPS. i don't give a D. as long as it does the S right and reaches the technical trifecta of 4k, shut up and take my money!
 
PooGobbler did not properly test for frame skipping (I asked him to), though it is likely that the Crossover drops frames when overclocked like most other multi-input monitors. Crossover, Monoprice, Yamakasi, ect have all advertised overclock-able multi-input monitors which drop frames.
 
If the crossover 44k can be confirmed to have no PWM and has proper brightness controls, I am in. At 670ish, it will be a steal and much better than the other 40" 4k options at this point.
 
Some updates over at the overclock thread. Decided to take the plunge and buy one from Dream Seller on ebay - had some ebay bucks to burn. $667 before ebay bucks.....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321720986926
 
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that 42 inch looks like the new vizio 43 inch 4k that I have read is only 4:2:2
 
Just ordered the "pixel perfect" version for 699 on eBay.

I'll keep you guys posted on how it goes :)
 
Why people would buy a monitor with the intention to scale resolutions is beyond me... If you want to change resolutions, get a CRT.
 
4k can cleanly do pixel doubling because it's an even multiple - so you wouldn't get the muddy look typical of running non-native rez. The point is that on some 60hz 4k screens, you can run 120hz input at 1080p. 60hz is very blurry and has low motion defintion and motion articulation. A high hz monitor is not being utilized at low frame rates either, so 1080p would give much higher frame rates at any given gpu power vs 4k. The lower the frame rate, the more blur and the less motion definition and motion articulation.

The problem with the korean panels in general (on the 1440's at least) is their response times are too poor (high) so they blur badly and they also don't have a modern gaming overdrive implementation. And as NCX said, a lot of "overclocked" hz screens in general drop frames so that is something to be wary of.

Someday(someyear), someone will make a proper 120hz circuitry 4k screen (that can do it at 4k) with dp 1.3 - 1.4a inputs, but it will need dp 1.3 - 1.4a outputs on gpus too. DP 1.3 and 1.4a spec allows for 120hz input at 4k (or two 60hz 4k on the same line, or a single 60hz 8k). Running 1080p at higher hz input would be a cool option if the rest of the panel had more gaming advancements like ultra low response time, good overdrive implementation, and variable hz.
 
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elvn said:
4k can cleanly do pixel doubling because it's an even multiple - so you wouldn't get the muddy look typical of running non-native rez. The point is that on some 60hz 4k screens, you can run 120hz input at 1080p. 60hz is very blurry and has low motion defintion and motion articulation. A high hz monitor is not being utilized at low frame rates either, so 1080p would give much higher frame rates at any given gpu power vs 4k. The lower the frame rate, the more blur and the less motion definition and motion articulation.

The problem with the korean panels in general (on the 1440's at least) is their response times are too poor (high) so they blur badly and they also don't have a modern gaming overdrive implementation. And as NCX said, a lot of "overclocked" hz screens in general drop frames so that is something to be wary of.

Someday(someyear), someone will make a proper 120hz circuitry 4k screen (that can do it at 4k) with dp 1.3 - 1.4a inputs, but it will need dp 1.3 - 1.4a outputs on gpus too. DP 1.3 and 1.4a spec allows for 120hz input at 4k (or two 60hz 4k on the same line, or a single 60hz 8k). Running 1080p at higher hz input would be a cool option if the rest of the panel had more gaming advancements like ultra low response time, good overdrive implementation, and variable hz.
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Why use DP instead of DVI? Like VGA and BNC, DL-DVI has limitless bandwidth. People are already running 260Hz 1920x1080 over DVI.
 
Curious, mine is sitting in customs right now. For anyone who has theirs already, did you have to pay any import fees or customs ect?
 
Marm0t, mine was in customs last night also, then it traveled from Alaska to KY to NC. Just got it about an hour ago.
 
Yeah mine was in Alaska this morning, and it's on the truck for delivery now. Magic eh? Lol
 
Well. As much as i am loving the 4k on this panel, i can't stray away from my 120hz Seiki 50 inch..

40 inch just seems small in comparison. Probably posting this thing up on ebay here this weekend.

Tips for all you 120hz dudes who want to jump to 4k... It's really a massive difference going back to 60hz. I don't think i'll ever be able to do it again.
 
How come I cant find any news articles about the Seiki 50"? All i find is the garbage 30hz one from back in 13'
 
Anyone know the physical dimensions of the monitor itself? Like the LxWxH? Cant find it on any of the sites listing it.
 
For anyone that cares new name is Crossover 404K, one place up on ebay.
 
2 or more listing on ebay now at around $699. Bit still no HDMI 2.0 with 4:4:4; 4K@60Hz not going to touch one till they put in HDMI 2.0 . Also up at Amazon for $735 and that listing say HDMI 2.0 4K@60Hz. Wonder which one is right.
 
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Superb. This revision supposed to fix oveclocking at lower resolutions.
I was watching this video, it looks a bit cheaply made there, is that how it looks/feels. :(
 
Surprised how cheap this monitor sells for. Do you guys think we'll cross the $500 threshold in 2016 for a 4k monitor of this size?
 
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Superb. This revision supposed to fix oveclocking at lower resolutions.
I was watching this video, it looks a bit cheaply made there, is that how it looks/feels. :(
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I don't think OCing lower res works. The ONE amazon review of the thing states that it will accept a 144/120hz input, but the panel refreshes at 60hz and just drops frames.
 
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