CPU Water Block That Installs In 12 Seconds

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  1. Corvette

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    It kind of defeats the 12 second installation, but I could see the product being delivered a little too tall and then using TIM or dye to judge the spacing. Then you just lap a little material off the bottom.
     
  2. bobzdar

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    The only use I see for this is somebody that does a ton of cpu swapping - ie buy 10 die to find the 'golden' overclocker with this you can swap them quickly for testing purposes. Otherwise, even if you're swapping cpus once a month, taking 10 minutes to swap it with the back plate doesn't matter much.

    Neat product but miniscule market (imo).
     
  3. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    In all honesty, I would love to have couple of sets of these my motherboard testbench. Changing blocks gets to be a PITA.
     
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  4. NUDEcnc

    NUDEcnc NUDEcnc Inventor

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    Wow, this is incredible. I'm honored that all of you put so much effort to give a review on the design.
    Thank You.
    This tells me one thing: I'M ON GOOD TRUCK TO SUCCESS :)

    Thank you PhotoBobBarker

    In regards of bricks:

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    This is standard 2,5 Kg UK brick. THE JOKE was to show how much is 13 kgf (kg of force)


    But in this situation, I have to admit, that I underestimate people which I'm showing my designs, for which I do apologize.
    To be precise: 1 N = 0.101971621298 kg
    so
    130N = 13.256310768713067 kg


    so: 2,5kg x5 bricks = 12.5kg + small stone ~13.2kg :)

    Regards Arek
     
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  5. lcpiper

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    Umm, no. The CPU socket and the clamping mechanism are designed within specific tolerances and if you use them improperly and they break, it's not the mechanisms fault, it's how you improperly used them.

    The bottom of this block is designed essentially as a replacement IHS. It makes sense because it's replacing that component. But because it is more than just a replacement part and is many times heavier and additionally is attached to tubing and the rest of the cooling system. It will put more stress on that bracket then it was designed to withstand. If the bracket gives at all, it will allow the block to transfer additional stress to the PCB package of the chip and it will do that unevenly.

    Time will tell.
     
  6. NUDEcnc

    NUDEcnc NUDEcnc Inventor

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    If that will be an option I will be happy to send one for testing.

    At the moment I'm preparing working prototype for thermal testing for skylike 6700k to confirm performance.
     
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  7. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    What wattage is the block rated at? I guess you don't know that for sure right now, but what are you shooting for?
     
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  8. LurkerLito

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    I'll admit I was wrong when I was watching it. I thought he was making some point about the the piece he was showing being able to handle that kind of downward force so the empty space in the brick just really set off some alarms in my head. :)
     
  9. lcpiper

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    It wouldn't be the first time a prototype block was sent to a tech site for evaluation.

    A man may have to eat crow :cool:

    (Meaning me)
     
  10. BroHamBone

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    Yea thats gonna be sweet when it becomes mainstream for lots of other cooling mechs.....Also,....i guess they just drop the block in your mail as is. No box or packaging...compared to the other installer. ;)
     
  11. lcpiper

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    Arek, I'm nobody special here at HardOCP. I'm just another forum member, but I would like to welcome you here.

    I also want to say that I applaud your design and thinking. Even if I am critical of it, I want you to know I also respect the work and the "outside the box" thinking that went into your work. Myself and others have concern about this solution but I want you to know that no one here wants to see this fail. We would all rather see this design succeed because in truth, you have one sexy looking waterblock design.

    Cheers.

    EDIT: Oh, and I would like to see this base-plate IHS replacement concept integrated into an All-In-One cooler similar to a Corsair, Coolermaster, and NZXT produce. I've gotten lazy when it comes to watercooling these days.
     
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  12. rbarr110

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    I think most of you are completely missing the point of the bricks. He wasn't testing anything there by stacking up the bricks other than giving you a visual aid as to how much force the retainer clip exerts.
     
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  13. lcpiper

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    Arek, You had mentioned that if Kyle desired, you may be able to send him a waterblock for testing.

    I was saying that, if you did send him a block or two, it would not be the first time for a company to do this. Yes, it is a good idea.

    As you mentioned, it can be good for many reasons.

    As for "eating crow", I was saying that I may have to eat some crow for being critical of your design, before we have had a chance to test it.

    The definition from wikipedia says "humiliation by admitting wrongness". I don't think admitting I am wrong is humiliating. I think that refusing to admit I am wrong, is more humiliating.
     
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  14. HeavensCloud

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    Better make sure your block is perfected you send to Kyle, he will test it thoroughly. I don't have any use for this as I don't change CPU's frequently, but I love that someone is trying a new approach to something we have been doing for years. Hope it works out for you and all the testers and modders out there.
     
  15. rgMekanic

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    I still don't see the benefit for those that change CPU's frequently, since it has to be de-lidded in order for this cooler to work, and there may be 10 people in the world with a pile of de-lidded CPU's lying around that they need to switch between.
     
  16. lcpiper

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    You don't see a benefit here for someone who is doing tech reviews and benching CPUs?

    So I am going to run mobo reviews and swap between three different CPUs, I have to delid all three, but I might use those same three CPUs for the next dozen motherboard reviews. Now that might only be useful for a handful of reviewers but if I still did custom watercooling setups I'd buy this block just for the ease of installation as long as the potential problems are put to bed. And as I said, incorporate this into an All-In-One cooler and I would buy it even if it required more conventional mounting hardware as long as the performance is there.
     
  17. NUDEcnc

    NUDEcnc NUDEcnc Inventor

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    about sending - sorry misunderstood you

    "eating crow" - this expression was totally new for me :), I didn't apply any form of humiliation. I do apologize.
    admitting being wrong requires a bigger man :)
     
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  18. lcpiper

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    Arek there was no need to apologize, I did not feel insulted at all. I do appreciate your concern and wish you great luck with your work.
     
  19. Hagrid

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    Well if you send one to Kyle and he approves it, that would sway quite a bit(most?) of the people.
     
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    Well, what about using an idea from my analogy?

    You could also make essentially the same block, designed to sit on top of a normal IHS and held down with the Intel style push clips. It would only add about 5 seconds to the switch.
     
  21. blkt

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    There should be at least an option to also utilize the mounting holes on the motherboard to ensure no sliding or rocking. I know it might not be a 12 second install, but think about shipping.
     
  22. FrgMstr

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    Let me know when you are ready to get one over. :)
     
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  23. NUDEcnc

    NUDEcnc NUDEcnc Inventor

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    Prototype testing coming :)

    Bench for testing 6700k :)

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    asus maximus viii impact
    6700k - will clock to 4.7 on air :)
    corsair 16gb 2666 ram

    But before I try to "destroy" this setup I want to do some tests on cheaper one :)

    I have working "foxconn 45cmx" 4gb Ram which you can see on videos.
    I also have:
    Intel Pentium D 945 3.4GHz Dual-Core
    and Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8400



    I'm planning use this setup for initial testing.
    As compare to Ncore, I will use EK-Supremacy EVO.

    All scenarios will be done in 3 coolant temperatures: 5degC, 30degC, 60degC

    3 scenarios:

    1. Standard CPU + Arctic cooling MX-4 on wb +EK wb
    2. Delided CPU +coollaboratory liquid pro on die + Arctic cooling MX-4 on wb + EK wb
    3. Ncore + coollaboratory liquid pro on die

    Please give me any Ideas what else you want to see.
     
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