Cortana Not Going Away Whether You Like it or Not

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  1. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Microsoft has announced that it has purchased Semantic Machines, a company that is "advancing the state of conversational AI." This will put Cortana into the position of being the most advanced OS AI that will never be used by most of its owners. Thanks cageymaru.

    We are excited to announce today that we have acquired Semantic Machines Inc., a Berkeley, California-based company that has developed a revolutionary new approach to building conversational AI. Their work uses the power of machine learning to enable users to discover, access and interact with information and services in a much more natural way, and with significantly less effort.

    We are further developing our work in conversational AI with our digital assistant Cortana, as well as with social chatbots like XiaoIce. XiaoIce has had more than 30 billion conversations, averaging up to 30 minutes each, with 200 million users across platforms in China, Japan, the United States, India and Indonesia. With XiaoIce and Cortana, we’ve made breakthroughs in speech recognition and more recently become the first to add full-duplex voice sense to a conversational AI system, allowing people to carry on a conversation naturally.
     
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  2. WhoBeDaPlaya

    WhoBeDaPlaya 2[H]4U

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    Great, now Clippy will never shut up, and will comprehend my weird pr0n fetishes :|

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  3. HardBytes

    HardBytes Limp Gawd

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    Exactly.
     
  4. Space_Ranger

    Space_Ranger Gawd

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    Thankfully the regedit to disable Cortana still works as of the Spring Update...
     
  5. Simmonz

    Simmonz 2[H]4U

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    The fact you even have to worry about that is just one of my issues with Windows 10.
     
  6. MacLeod

    MacLeod [H]ardness Supreme

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    When Microsoft wants something it's like sex with Kobe Bryant. You can kick and scream all you want but it's, it's gonna happen.
     
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    Which is regrettable, as many AI researchers I've spoken to all point to Cortana as the hallmark for AI advancement. Microsoft feels a bit like oblivious parents; can you pick out Cortana?
     
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  8. SomeoneElse

    SomeoneElse [H]ard|Gawd

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    Every time I see these desktop assistants, i always think for HAL in 2001 Space odyssey.....The thing ends up going crazy and doing stuff it wasn't asked to do.
     
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  9. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Easy peasy.

    1. Click Start, type gpedit.msc and hit enter.
    2. Navigate to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Search.
    3. Locate Allow Cortana and double-click on it to open the relevant policy.
    4. Select Disabled.
    5. Click Apply and OK to turn off Cortana.
     
  10. jlbenedict

    jlbenedict [H]ard|Gawd

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    @ Microsoft -
    Windows 10 will never be installed on my computer , whether you like it or not
     
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  11. ManofGod

    ManofGod [H]ardForum Junkie

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    I use Cortana every single day. Between my Xbox One X and the tie in between my phone and computer, it is really useful. I prefer to type a text through my keyboard on my computer, it is far more convenient than typing on the phone.
     
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  12. ManofGod

    ManofGod [H]ardForum Junkie

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    *Shrug* :meh:
     
  13. Elf_Boy

    Elf_Boy [H]ard|Gawd

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    I'm ok with win 10.

    That said.....

    I have found in the past my resistance to updating to [X] always collapses when game/app/thing/ [Y] I really want requires it.

    I really liked my 8800 GTX - till it could not keep up. My GTX 580 was amazing with AA -very little performance drop even at high settings- till it could not keep up.

    Makes me wonder what must have/use api/thing will be in Win 10 eventually that a dev will want to not use.
     
  14. Dekoth-E-

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    Honestly Win 10 works great..with cortana and all the other stupid bullshit disabled, on a laptop that isn't connected to anything important that is used by kids to watch youtube and play roblox. I sure as hell wouldn't install it on my primary rig though. I ran it on there until they decided to downgrade Win 10 Pro to basically home edition only you paid more because they removed the "pro" features.
     
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    Nobody wants to use DirectX 12, so it's already here.
     
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  16. heatlesssun

    heatlesssun Pick your own.....you deserve it.

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    Been running the latest production builds since I built this sig rig almost two years ago. 4 feature updates, went from 2 1080s to 2 1080 Tis, swapped out the 3 1080p 3D monitors with a better set of 1080p 3D monitors, added two VR headsets, a 4k monitor and an additional 4 TB of app storage. I've never plugged this amount of hardware into a PC with this amount of software installed running prior versions of Windows but I don't see how Windows 7 or 8.1 would handle this setup any better, especially when dealing with 4k.
     
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    I use classic shell, disable Cortana, updates (I update the OS every Friday) and prevent tracking (with a PI-HOLE) but the gyrations you go through to run the OS the way you want have relegated Windows 10 to being just a game machine for me. I dual boot and use Linux for my real computing/programming needs and just use Windows 10 for games.
     
  18. Dr. Righteous

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    That was the first thing I did went bought a new laptop last month. Ha!
     
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    YOU seem to care a lot about Windows 10 even without using it. Sad.
     
  20. theplaidfad

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    Look man, I get it... but how long have registry hacks to make windows work the way you want it to been a thing?
     
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  21. ManofGod

    ManofGod [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Windows 95. :) Oh wait...….. :D
     
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    Microsoft. You’re not Apple. So just stop.
     
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  23. DPI

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    RIP, Semantic Machines. When you sell out to MS, it's the kiss of death and the founders usually jump ship at the first opportunity.
     
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    If you are using Windows Home you must first download and install group policy editor. Then you can proceed with modifying the policy on the device as needed.

    So instead of just having an option to disable Cortana, MS forces you to go out of your way with a number of extra steps. MS did a great job of adding a lot of extra steps to do the simplest tasks in Win10.
     
  25. KamelRed

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    Google tells me that is a Family Guy reference but when I read it I heard this man's voice.

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    Now if only Cortana and Bixby could create digital avatars and permanently destroy each other.
     
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    Its weird to me that people are totally cool with open mics they dont control....
     
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  28. ManofGod

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    It is not weird, since the mic is not open and I do control it.
     
  29. ProfessorUtopia

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    Like the ones on smartphones ~99% of people carry around with them ~99% of the time? Or am I just being paranoid, now?

    But in all seriousness, I've been using Cortana on my PC and phone for over a year; in that time it's evolved from a novelty to a pretty awesome tool I'd definitely rather not make do without. If it keeps evolving at this pace, I could see it actually fulfilling the role of a personal assistant within a couple years. And beyond that, who knows? The Skynet's the limit!
     
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  30. vegeta535

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    Cause they don't want people to disable shit. Sure it won't stop the people know their shit but majority of people won't be able to do it.
     
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  31. heatlesssun

    heatlesssun Pick your own.....you deserve it.

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    I know there's a lot of aversion to this type of tech around here but the overall market is big into it. If you're a major tech company like Microsoft there's no choice but to develop this stuff. I get making it easier to disable but no one is selling this stuff based on how easy to disable it is.

    This is just one of those situations where certain techies have their opinion and the market has a much different one.
     
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  32. Dick Johnson

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    Yes, this illustrates the biggest problem with Windows 10.

    Cortana should be something that you install if you want it. Or, something that is there by default but can be removed. Not something that is built into the OS.
     
  33. gwarren007

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    Let's see if Cortana can make me a sandwich.
     
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  34. Dick Johnson

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    Wrong. There is absolutely no need for Microsoft to develop this -- at least not as part of Windows. Cortana is just another part of all the unnecessary crap crammed into Windows 10.

    99.9% of Microsoft's Windows revenue comes from selling Windows to OEMs who install it on the computers they sell. As a result, Microsoft is guaranteed to sell a couple hundred million copies of Windows every year. When people buy a new computer, 99% of them don't care what version of Windows it comes with. And they certainly don't care whether or not it includes Cortana, or Candy Crush, or only of the other bloatware. Hell, if Microsoft started selling Windows XP again, it would probably outsell all the other versions.
     
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  35. ManofGod

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    Oh good, a business professional and educator all in one. :D Why don't we all just go back too Windows 95 and live with that forever, instead. :) Cortona is not bloat and all those other things you mentioned are not installed, they simply are pointers to those items if you want to install them. You are right about one thing though, a lot of people do not care and do not even notice they are there.
     
  36. DKS

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    Or... All Settings ==> Cortana and Search ==> set all switches to OFF and stay out of OneDrive. You never are bothered by Cortana. Mind you, I am using Build 17672 as a Windows Insider, but I have used these settings for quite a while.
     
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  37. DKS

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    My preference is for Siri, but she is also quiet 99% of the time, unless I call for her.
     
  38. Delicieuxz

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    No Cortana in Windows 10 LTSB, thankfully.
     
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  39. heatlesssun

    heatlesssun Pick your own.....you deserve it.

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    OEMs are now starting to add Alexa to their consumer PCs: https://www.onmsft.com/news/acer-is...-with-the-spin-3-and-spin-5-laptops-this-week. And Alexa is supposed to get rolled into Cortana and vice versa at some point. I don't see how Microsoft ignores this market even with desktop Windows. Especially with desktop Windows if it is to have any connection to consumers.
     
  40. M76

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    Well I haven't seen any sign of it since I swiftly eradicated it after I installed windows, so I'm pretty sure it is gone.
     
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