Corsair H80i GT AIO vs Haswell-E OC.

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by sblantipodi, Nov 25, 2015.

  1. doyll

    doyll Kyle's Thermocouple is HOT

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    Just curious, who is selling a 92mm AIO? I assume it is a CLC?

    I really don't care what coolers you use. I just don't like seeing people fall for all the marketing hype about how great CLCs are.

    Look at all the "refurbished" and "remanufactured" CLCs being sold. Where do you think they get all the ones that need to be repaired?

    Have you ever seen any "refurbished" or "remanufactured" air coolers for sale?

    Truth is the only AIOs that are equal to top air coolers are Swiftech and EKWB Predator .. and neither of them are CLC. They basically are pre-assembled & pre-filled component kits .. with much better pumps, copper radiators, independent CPU waterblocks, and easy to add additional components, change / top off coolant, replace old components, etc to them. CLCs (Asetek originally called the LCLC (Low Cost Liquid Cooling)) are just that. cheap, disposable coolers. The only thing CLCs have in common with real water cooling loops is water.

    Real water loop users think of CLCs as "wann-a-be" water coolers

    I don't have a Haswell, but I do have i7 920 and two i7 980 systems running at 4.2GHz, 4.4GHz & 4.4GHz on air, and none ever go above 70c or make more than 38dBA, even when stress testing.

    I also have a 6700K under the new Cryorig C7 in my HTPC.
     
  2. doyll

    doyll Kyle's Thermocouple is HOT

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    Only time I use the pre-applied TIM is if testing for a review. Even then I usually do a second test with my TIM. I've been using Chill Factor3 as I have a lot of it. NT-H1 is good stuff too.
     
  3. sblantipodi

    sblantipodi 2[H]4U

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    Yes, I used noctua on air coolers for years and never had problems.
    I compared it with the Artic MX-4 and there is really no difference I can tell if not that I prefer the Noctua consistency.
     
  4. doyll

    doyll Kyle's Thermocouple is HOT

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    Indeed.
    TIM is more about how good the print is than it's actual heat transfer ability. There are a couple of extreme TIMs, but they are expensive, hard to apply, and can damage things. For only 2c better heat transfer I don't think they are worth it unless doing OC competition like applications .. and at that level it's usually liquid nitrogen anyway. :D
     
  5. Eldata

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    "Truth is the only AIOs that are equal to top air coolers are Swiftech and EKWB Predator .. and neither of them are CLC."

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/ek_predator_240_aio_liquid_cooling_review,10.html

    "I also have a 6700K under the new Cryorig C7 in my HTPC."

    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/C7/6.html

    Noise! The last refuge of Air Benders.
     
  6. doyll

    doyll Kyle's Thermocouple is HOT

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    You need to look at test procedure before you believe the results. Most resemble a snake oils barker's credentials. :p

    When you show some real usable test results, I'll look. These reviews are just smoke and mirrors.

    C7 test is LIAN LI PC-T60B, but based "a room temperature of 23°C (73°F) and with a 1°C margin of error". So 1c variance in room temp with no monitoring of air temp going into cooler. Just another cooking in the kitchen and going into closed bedroom to look at thermometer to see how hot the kitchen is. :D

    Those are not really good tests, but a best they are nt tests of cooler performance.

    "Little fake sailboats, the last refuge of CLC wet heads."

    They are poor tests of how a specific system performs with different coolers. I don't use that system so my peformance is very different. But if your system is identical to theirs, their testing may have some relevance to you.

    Can you post any credible testing based on the actual cooling ability of coolers? Some testing done in a scientific format and standards, not this garbage you linked to here.
     
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  7. Eldata

    Eldata Limp Gawd

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    "Can you post any credible testing based on the actual cooling ability of coolers?"

    http://tinyurl.com/p92hde9

    Top air is nowhere to be found in the extreme results at the bottom of the page. No more time to waste on delusional luddites.
     
  8. doyll

    doyll Kyle's Thermocouple is HOT

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    Top air is nowhere to be found in the extreme results at the bottom of the page. No more time to waste on delusional luddites.
    Must be talking about yourself.
    What is the test system, baseline air temp location, etc. It's easy to spout all kinds of data. Not so easy to find data based on credible testing procedure.
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    Corsair sailboat [​IMG]

    How it's made [​IMG]

    Here is a good CPU heatsinks and cooler testing procedure
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/9415/top-tier-cpu-air-coolers-9way-roundup-review/11

    Seriously. Look around at how many CLC owners have moved to top tier air coolers.
    http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28915027&postcount=10

    http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28915395&postcount=13

    http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28916971&postcount=16

    http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28916998&postcount=19

    http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28935598&postcount=22

    But I shouldn't bother. Your little sailboat mind is made up and you don't want to know the truth or facts. They would tarnish your view through your blue (water) tinted glasses. :D
     
  9. sblantipodi

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    Thanks to have enlighted us now can we come back in topic?
     
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    sblantipodi 2[H]4U

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    pushing VCORE at 1.35V ant 74°C on the hottest core.
    This small AIO is simply awesome. Amazed by it's performance.
     
  11. Phail

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    I am going to quote myself from old threads.

    This is after a 15 minute run of real bench.

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    I am stable @ 4400 Mhz @1.268 V. As you can see temps can be all over the place depending on what test you use. I stopped here, with prime95 27.9 temps where approaching 90 C when stressed overnight.

    If I were you, I would run this for a few hours and see what kind of heat soak you encounter. You can get prime95 27.7, non AVX 2 version here. http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=16779

    I am interested to see the results
     
  12. skline00

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    The Haswell E is either 6 or 8 cores. Much more overall heat than a 4 core. I think the bigger AIOs ore OK (240/280 or even 360 rads) but with your OC on the Haswell E the Corsair H80i is probably getting swamped with heat.

    Look I'm custom rad crazy BUT I know the heat gain is being dissipated. I bought 2 digital external thermometers that read in Centigrade that I keep on the desk near each rig AND I use the XSPC temp probe with LCD readout for each custom loop so I can measure the delta in temp of the ambient air and idle water loop temp and the same ambient air and max water temp when running full bore. I get a 5 to 7C jump in delta. I also measure my temps of the cpu etc using AIDA 64.

    In my 5960x rig OC'd to 4.4 Ghz 1.335 vcore my MAX core temp is 74C while most MAXes are 68C Average are lower.

    Bottom line is sufficient rad space allows the heat build up to dissipate. Personally the H80i is probably getting swamped.