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Consumers Are Too Dumb To Understand Google Fiber
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I always get insulted when these telcos come out and say that the consumer doesn't know what they want. Frontier already has the infrastructure in place, so what is the harm in testing the market for gigabit service in their areas? Google obviously thinks that it is worth the investment to go out there and set up their own infrastructure. Competition is good for everyone.
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Pretty sure anyone can understand fast and cheap.
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"it's a bit disrespectful to speak a language our customers don't understand"
Kinda like it's "a bit disrespectful" to tell your customers they're morons and they don't need high-speed internet for cheap because you know best?
Kinda like it's "a bit disrespectful" to tell your customers they're morons and they don't need high-speed internet for cheap because you know best?
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This CEO has some 56k lines to sell you.
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You can do what you want and go where you want to on our $35 dirt toll road...or you can pay $70 and do the same things and more with a connection that is over 50x faster on our competitor's autobahn.
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I'm about to say some words that are often not approved of, if mods feel this is inappropriate please edit my post.
seriously 10Mbps is adequate? I currently have 6Mbps DSL, I can only watch 1080 youtube videos if absolutely no one else is using any bandwidth, and then there's still a second or two pause ever minute while it rebuffers, if I'm downloading something, youtube detects my speed and throttles me down to 240p resolution.
What she doesn't understand, or does understand and wants to mislead others, is that whether you run at a 10Mbps line or a 100Mbps line to your house it costs the same amount, fiber is more expensive yes but again 100Mbps or 1Gbps it doesn't cost any more. The bandwidth will sort itself out, if all neighbors are downloading porn they're not going to get 1Gbps speeds, the end.
I really wish Sonic.net would expand their fiber a bit quicker, $70/month for 1Gbps, or if you don't feel like you need that speed 100Mbps for $40/month since it's the same fucking type of connection to your house. But I do understand why they don't, I unfortunately live in a neighborhood that's primarily Asian families that have 2-3 generations living under one roof and those are older ones are the type of misinformed customers this bitch is gunning after.
I really want to kick this in the . And before anyone calls me misogynistic, if the CEO was a guy I'd say "I want to kick that cock in the balls"
seriously 10Mbps is adequate? I currently have 6Mbps DSL, I can only watch 1080 youtube videos if absolutely no one else is using any bandwidth, and then there's still a second or two pause ever minute while it rebuffers, if I'm downloading something, youtube detects my speed and throttles me down to 240p resolution.
What she doesn't understand, or does understand and wants to mislead others, is that whether you run at a 10Mbps line or a 100Mbps line to your house it costs the same amount, fiber is more expensive yes but again 100Mbps or 1Gbps it doesn't cost any more. The bandwidth will sort itself out, if all neighbors are downloading porn they're not going to get 1Gbps speeds, the end.
I really wish Sonic.net would expand their fiber a bit quicker, $70/month for 1Gbps, or if you don't feel like you need that speed 100Mbps for $40/month since it's the same fucking type of connection to your house. But I do understand why they don't, I unfortunately live in a neighborhood that's primarily Asian families that have 2-3 generations living under one roof and those are older ones are the type of misinformed customers this bitch is gunning after.
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ok then... apparently autofilter did get that four letter word that rhymes with runt
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The average person just glazes over the moment you start talking numbers.
Comcast is pushing their X-finity as "the fastest in home wifi", which makes consumers think they have the fastest overall speed, not that its just a wifi router they include (not for free of course).
People are ignorant and stupid to this stuff. The misinformation by the companies just makes it even easier to fool them.
Comcast is pushing their X-finity as "the fastest in home wifi", which makes consumers think they have the fastest overall speed, not that its just a wifi router they include (not for free of course).
People are ignorant and stupid to this stuff. The misinformation by the companies just makes it even easier to fool them.
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Screw TV. Don't ever bundle anything. I don't wan't a bunch of useless garbage. It's somewhat like using coupons on things you would never buy if there wasn't a coupon. It is extra cost for no real benefit. Plus these CEOs are all old fogies that don't know shit about what we want.
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12mbit -is- enough for the average household, right now, but in the coming years? She is a little off. 15mbit will be minimum if 4k has any further adoption -- and that'll be super compressed. If Frontier is trying to make it easier on the consumer to understand -- are they also going to provide free QoS configuration for that 12mbit link to be viable in large family dwellings?
I'd be fine with 22mbit down, 6mbit up for my personal Internet split between two people and I am what all of these ISP consider a "heavy data user". Anything past that, is ultimately not required for personal use when data caps are imposed. I am dreading going from 50mbit Comcast to 50mbit TWC in the near future, just because of the upstream bandwidth loss. None of these ISP really give a visage of understanding what they're selling, or why they're selling the tiers they do.
I'd be fine with 22mbit down, 6mbit up for my personal Internet split between two people and I am what all of these ISP consider a "heavy data user". Anything past that, is ultimately not required for personal use when data caps are imposed. I am dreading going from 50mbit Comcast to 50mbit TWC in the near future, just because of the upstream bandwidth loss. None of these ISP really give a visage of understanding what they're selling, or why they're selling the tiers they do.
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Frontier isn't horrible, but they aren't great either. Still better then comcast.
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12Mbps is fine for the average household. For right now. But, why not upgrade the infrastructure to support and sell faster speeds? In 5 years, people will look back and say "why are we so slow? Why didn't we upgrade stuff before?". Some places are still running on decade old (or a LOT older) stuff. Just never upgraded. So, they can get 6Mb or 10 at the most. They just don't upgrade their stuff. People aren't dumb, it's just another excuse to not spend $$ and upgrade their shit. People know and understand. They get it.
Does the average person need 1Gbps, no they do not. I'd say that the average family does not need more than 25Mbps, that would allow a few people to be streaming and still be able to get online with other devices. If you have people doing a lot of gaming they could use more if nothing else just to download games and updates in a timely fashion. And of course you have your special cases where you need far more to your home. But the average family probably can get by on 25Mbps for their connection just fine.
I would also argue that the average person doesn't understand the technical aspect of things, at times it is apparent that people on here don't understand the technical aspects of things. Anyone that thinks DSL is limited to only a few Mbps are some of those people. Those that think that fiber equal fast speeds are some of those people. I can give you the name of a town where they are 100% fiber to the home, your speed choices are 1.5Mbps or 3Mbps but they are 100% fiber so I guess that slow speed doesn't matter as they are on fiber.
For the average person, they are told Google fiber is really fast and cheap and that they should want it. So that is why they want it, they don't know what 1Gbps is, they don't know if they are maxing out a 10Mbps right now or how much of that 1Gbps they will use. If you go into an area and charge somebody twice as much for 1Gbps ftth as what they pay for 20Mbps on their current connection even though they are getting much faster speeds they wouldn't want to pay the twice as much so it wouldn't sell very well to the average person because they don't know nor do they understand or care to understand what they have or what you are offering them. There are people out there today that complain because their dialup service is working slow. They used to be able to get to their pages without trouble but over the past few years they have been having more and more trouble and finding their task are slower and slower to do. But they don't understand it is because the sites are being designed with higher bandwidth needs. Instead the issue is that your dialup service is having issues or isn't giving them their full speed anymore.
If you try to sell to the average person using speed alone they won't understand that a bit is and how more bits per second really helps them, any more than the average person knows or understand when buying a car what a 3.2L vs a 3L engine means.
So while I don't agree that people only need 10Mbps, I do agree that the average person doesn't understand what Google fiber is
Cost to run the fiber to your house is the same from a certain point although there might be some price differences between you and the other end that differs if you are to truly get 1Gbps to yourself or if you are sharing that bandwidth. If you wanted to run 1Gbps to every customer and be able to promise them 1Gbps then you have to go ActiveE, this requires more equipment in the office as every customer has to have their own port. Now if you want to sell less than that at an over subscriptioned rate you can go G-PON. Which you then have 2.5Gbps leaving the office on a single port then it is passed through a slitter that can be split up to 32 customers (most only go about 24 - 28 though) which if all equal speeds is somewhere around 78Mbps per customer. Which what many places do is they run G-PON out somewhere and then offer 1Gbps but in reality there are a number of you sharing 2.5Gbps. But again the average person doesn't know or care as they aren't really trying to use that much. G-PON is cheaper as you can get more customers per card back in the office also means fewer SFPs, and out to your splitter fewer fibers in the ground. Recommended is 8 fibers buried to a location for every 1 you really need, that way you can add a second spillter for a second PON if needed to an area, or if some of those people do need faster speeds you can move them to their own fiber and go ActiveE for up to at least a few people before you have to go bury more fiber.
Assuming everything equal, then unless the people are utilizing the higher speed, correct there is nothing more to offer you 1Gbps instead of 100Mbps. Which is the reason people offer 1Gbps to customers over G-PON. most people only use 15 - 20, with a few higher bandwidth users, so in the end they never actually see everything max out so you turn it up to a gig and use that as marketing. 1Gbps internet is now in your area, you offer that for the same price that you were previously offering 25 or 50 Mbps and it appears suddenly that you are offering a massive value to customers when all you have done is set the speed higher than previous speeds that the average person wasn't hitting before. Kind of like raising a speed limit from 130MPH to no speed limit. average person isn't going to get to 130 so that wouldn't matter, but they would see view that as something good as they aren't being limited in their speed.
I would also argue that the average person doesn't understand the technical aspect of things, at times it is apparent that people on here don't understand the technical aspects of things. Anyone that thinks DSL is limited to only a few Mbps are some of those people. Those that think that fiber equal fast speeds are some of those people. I can give you the name of a town where they are 100% fiber to the home, your speed choices are 1.5Mbps or 3Mbps but they are 100% fiber so I guess that slow speed doesn't matter as they are on fiber.
For the average person, they are told Google fiber is really fast and cheap and that they should want it. So that is why they want it, they don't know what 1Gbps is, they don't know if they are maxing out a 10Mbps right now or how much of that 1Gbps they will use. If you go into an area and charge somebody twice as much for 1Gbps ftth as what they pay for 20Mbps on their current connection even though they are getting much faster speeds they wouldn't want to pay the twice as much so it wouldn't sell very well to the average person because they don't know nor do they understand or care to understand what they have or what you are offering them. There are people out there today that complain because their dialup service is working slow. They used to be able to get to their pages without trouble but over the past few years they have been having more and more trouble and finding their task are slower and slower to do. But they don't understand it is because the sites are being designed with higher bandwidth needs. Instead the issue is that your dialup service is having issues or isn't giving them their full speed anymore.
If you try to sell to the average person using speed alone they won't understand that a bit is and how more bits per second really helps them, any more than the average person knows or understand when buying a car what a 3.2L vs a 3L engine means.
So while I don't agree that people only need 10Mbps, I do agree that the average person doesn't understand what Google fiber is
I'm about to say some words that are often not approved of, if mods feel this is inappropriate please edit my post.
I really want to kick this in the . And before anyone calls me misogynistic, if the CEO was a guy I'd say "I want to kick that cock in the balls"
seriously 10Mbps is adequate? I currently have 6Mbps DSL, I can only watch 1080 youtube videos if absolutely no one else is using any bandwidth, and then there's still a second or two pause ever minute while it rebuffers, if I'm downloading something, youtube detects my speed and throttles me down to 240p resolution.
What she doesn't understand, or does understand and wants to mislead others, is that whether you run at a 10Mbps line or a 100Mbps line to your house it costs the same amount, fiber is more expensive yes but again 100Mbps or 1Gbps it doesn't cost any more. The bandwidth will sort itself out, if all neighbors are downloading porn they're not going to get 1Gbps speeds, the end.
I really wish Sonic.net would expand their fiber a bit quicker, $70/month for 1Gbps, or if you don't feel like you need that speed 100Mbps for $40/month since it's the same fucking type of connection to your house. But I do understand why they don't, I unfortunately live in a neighborhood that's primarily Asian families that have 2-3 generations living under one roof and those are older ones are the type of misinformed customers this bitch is gunning after.
Cost to run the fiber to your house is the same from a certain point although there might be some price differences between you and the other end that differs if you are to truly get 1Gbps to yourself or if you are sharing that bandwidth. If you wanted to run 1Gbps to every customer and be able to promise them 1Gbps then you have to go ActiveE, this requires more equipment in the office as every customer has to have their own port. Now if you want to sell less than that at an over subscriptioned rate you can go G-PON. Which you then have 2.5Gbps leaving the office on a single port then it is passed through a slitter that can be split up to 32 customers (most only go about 24 - 28 though) which if all equal speeds is somewhere around 78Mbps per customer. Which what many places do is they run G-PON out somewhere and then offer 1Gbps but in reality there are a number of you sharing 2.5Gbps. But again the average person doesn't know or care as they aren't really trying to use that much. G-PON is cheaper as you can get more customers per card back in the office also means fewer SFPs, and out to your splitter fewer fibers in the ground. Recommended is 8 fibers buried to a location for every 1 you really need, that way you can add a second spillter for a second PON if needed to an area, or if some of those people do need faster speeds you can move them to their own fiber and go ActiveE for up to at least a few people before you have to go bury more fiber.
Assuming everything equal, then unless the people are utilizing the higher speed, correct there is nothing more to offer you 1Gbps instead of 100Mbps. Which is the reason people offer 1Gbps to customers over G-PON. most people only use 15 - 20, with a few higher bandwidth users, so in the end they never actually see everything max out so you turn it up to a gig and use that as marketing. 1Gbps internet is now in your area, you offer that for the same price that you were previously offering 25 or 50 Mbps and it appears suddenly that you are offering a massive value to customers when all you have done is set the speed higher than previous speeds that the average person wasn't hitting before. Kind of like raising a speed limit from 130MPH to no speed limit. average person isn't going to get to 130 so that wouldn't matter, but they would see view that as something good as they aren't being limited in their speed.
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You don't have to be that smart to understand that higher speeds at competitive prices is better.
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I'm so sad I'm moving. We've got 50x50 for $45 month through the local municipal fiber. Moving back to a TWC only area @ 35x5, and an oversold 35 at that...
She does have one valid point, if a flimsy one. And that is the infrastructure to support that 1gbps outside of the connection itself doesn't quite fully exist yet. I have an 80 mb connection and I very rarely get to use all that due to bandwidth caps on the other end, congestion, etc. Even wireless isn't up to the task though theoretically 802.11ac should be enough. In practice is something else. When I upgraded to 35 mb years ago I quickly found out that 802.11g couldn't cut it. 3 feet away from the router the best I could pull in was 19 mb over it. From another room it would drop to 8-10. I ended up having to run cat6 all over the place 1 gbps sounds awesome, but in practice I imagine it wouldn't be exactly as hoped. Doesn't mean they shouldn't bring it, they should and the low prices to go with it. More work needs to be done externally to make it really usable still.
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I'd be willing to pay a rate proportional to the level of service Frontier provides.
Google does 1G for $70/month, so please sign me up for the $1.05/month 15M plan.
Google does 1G for $70/month, so please sign me up for the $1.05/month 15M plan.
Heh. I'd love to trade my 1gbps for $70/mo plan for 100mbps at $7/moI'd be willing to pay a rate proportional to the level of service Frontier provides.
Google does 1G for $70/month, so please sign me up for the $1.05/month 15M plan.
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The people of Cruiser Lake need to be educated, please install these Goggle Fibres so we can learn!
More like Frontier was to stupid to buy Verizon's old aging phone infrastructure. Where I live there are phone lines and boxes literally laying on top of the ground open to the weather. How DSL works on that I will never no. They paid 8.6 billion for aging infrastructure that consumers are migrating away from. Verizon must have laughed all the way to the bank on that one.
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I'll always stick with the provider who is good enough to look out for my best interests with what I REALLY need most.
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Here is a screen grab of Google Fiber in action.
Download started at 4:19pm. Install started at 4:23pm
This speed is average for me. Low end is 70ish MB a sec .... Average 100MB a second. After 1am I normally see 130 - 140MB a sec.
Enjoy
Download started at 4:19pm. Install started at 4:23pm
This speed is average for me. Low end is 70ish MB a sec .... Average 100MB a second. After 1am I normally see 130 - 140MB a sec.
Enjoy
Insula Gilliganis
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I's 2 dum too undrstnd Google Bunny
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"We have to take the mystery and the technology out of the experience for the user because it's a bit disrespectful to speak a language our customers don't understand."
LOL It has NOTHING to do with customers not understand the technology, what it does mean is that customers are sick of getting fucked over for things they understand that you fucking LIE about all the time and then surcharge us all into bankruptcy with illegal charges and limit the stated speeds.
Just had to clear that up.
LOL It has NOTHING to do with customers not understand the technology, what it does mean is that customers are sick of getting fucked over for things they understand that you fucking LIE about all the time and then surcharge us all into bankruptcy with illegal charges and limit the stated speeds.
Just had to clear that up.
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I wouldn't mind a 1Gbps connection, it's not like it will outpace my Wi-Fi network.
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Some additional information on your Google Bunny stuff you posted.
1) The $300 fee is waived if you have the service 1 maybe 2 years. Unsure. Like, who is going to get rid of Google Fiber? lol
2) Google Fiber is 100% free if you want. For a $250 connection / hardware fee ( You get 100% ownership of all the hardware ) you can get 5 years of 100% free 15mbit Google Fiber. The cool part? You can break up the $250 in tiny monthly payments over 1 or 2 years. It might be $300, I don't think it is.
3) You own all the hardware including the Gen2 Nexus 7 they give you for free. 100% ownership. No rental, no giving it back. Yours.
4) Installers will give you all new Cat6 and HDMI cables ( Additional if you ask )
5) Google Fiber is actually faster than 1gigabit if you know how to maximize your speeds. I personally see 1.3 and 1.4gigabit in the evenings and occasionally during the day.
6) Google Swag. To draw awareness, Google throws a bevy of events all over Kansas City. From stickers, giant yard Google Bunnies, Coffee Cups, T-Shirts, Misc etc it's easy to load up. We have a lot of stuff ourselves.
7) There are some super secret hush hush programs Google will invite you into. We just recently got accepted into a program that will be bring some amazing new ***** and ******* to Google Fiber. Mind blowing. You think cable companies are pissed now ..... lmao.
1) The $300 fee is waived if you have the service 1 maybe 2 years. Unsure. Like, who is going to get rid of Google Fiber? lol
2) Google Fiber is 100% free if you want. For a $250 connection / hardware fee ( You get 100% ownership of all the hardware ) you can get 5 years of 100% free 15mbit Google Fiber. The cool part? You can break up the $250 in tiny monthly payments over 1 or 2 years. It might be $300, I don't think it is.
3) You own all the hardware including the Gen2 Nexus 7 they give you for free. 100% ownership. No rental, no giving it back. Yours.
4) Installers will give you all new Cat6 and HDMI cables ( Additional if you ask )
5) Google Fiber is actually faster than 1gigabit if you know how to maximize your speeds. I personally see 1.3 and 1.4gigabit in the evenings and occasionally during the day.
6) Google Swag. To draw awareness, Google throws a bevy of events all over Kansas City. From stickers, giant yard Google Bunnies, Coffee Cups, T-Shirts, Misc etc it's easy to load up. We have a lot of stuff ourselves.
7) There are some super secret hush hush programs Google will invite you into. We just recently got accepted into a program that will be bring some amazing new ***** and ******* to Google Fiber. Mind blowing. You think cable companies are pissed now ..... lmao.
Over 1 Gbps? Think your speed test is broke
SixFootDuo
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I've been on the internet since Dec 1993 and before that, BBS's for years with the C64 / Amiga.
I think I understand data speed. At least I hope I do. Upper case B is byte, lower case b is bit. We are talking bits, not bytes. So I think that's where you're confused. You tell me. There's are not speed tests. I'm talking real world speeds with large amounts of data to my network. But I get it. I understand. There are a lot of people in Kansas City that have Google Fiber that don't get the speed. One, they do not know how to push the data.
I can push between 70 and 80 up to 150 concurrent threads over usenet with Google Fiber and get up to 1.3gigabit + speeds. Example, 30TB ( Terabyte ) in 5 - 6ish minutes.
I think I understand data speed. At least I hope I do. Upper case B is byte, lower case b is bit. We are talking bits, not bytes. So I think that's where you're confused. You tell me. There's are not speed tests. I'm talking real world speeds with large amounts of data to my network. But I get it. I understand. There are a lot of people in Kansas City that have Google Fiber that don't get the speed. One, they do not know how to push the data.
I can push between 70 and 80 up to 150 concurrent threads over usenet with Google Fiber and get up to 1.3gigabit + speeds. Example, 30TB ( Terabyte ) in 5 - 6ish minutes.
I'm too dumb to understand I can Chromecast Netflix in HD to all 3 televisions in the house while still downloading AT LEAST 10 times faster than what I can now?
You mean like how I pay for a 15/1 connection and am lucky to get 2/.5? And I can't have credit to my account or downgrade to a lower package because then my speeds would decrease even further? Is that right Time Warner?
I'm afraid I just can't comprehend that.
F#CK YOU and every other cable company holding this country back and overcharging for shitty service.
You mean like how I pay for a 15/1 connection and am lucky to get 2/.5? And I can't have credit to my account or downgrade to a lower package because then my speeds would decrease even further? Is that right Time Warner?
I'm afraid I just can't comprehend that.
F#CK YOU and every other cable company holding this country back and overcharging for shitty service.
I'm about to say some words that are often not approved of, if mods feel this is inappropriate please edit my post.
I really want to kick this in the . And before anyone calls me misogynistic, if the CEO was a guy I'd say "I want to kick that cock in the balls"
seriously 10Mbps is adequate? I currently have 6Mbps DSL, I can only watch 1080 youtube videos if absolutely no one else is using any bandwidth, and then there's still a second or two pause ever minute while it rebuffers, if I'm downloading something, youtube detects my speed and throttles me down to 240p resolution.
What she doesn't understand, or does understand and wants to mislead others, is that whether you run at a 10Mbps line or a 100Mbps line to your house it costs the same amount, fiber is more expensive yes but again 100Mbps or 1Gbps it doesn't cost any more. The bandwidth will sort itself out, if all neighbors are downloading porn they're not going to get 1Gbps speeds, the end.
I really wish Sonic.net would expand their fiber a bit quicker, $70/month for 1Gbps, or if you don't feel like you need that speed 100Mbps for $40/month since it's the same fucking type of connection to your house. But I do understand why they don't, I unfortunately live in a neighborhood that's primarily Asian families that have 2-3 generations living under one roof and those are older ones are the type of misinformed customers this bitch is gunning after.
If she had 2 or more people in her house trying to watch Netflix/Youtube,etc, she might not think 10 megabits is enough.