Consumer Reports Tests iPhone 6 Bending Versus Other Phones

Yeah but they are trying to bend it directly in the middle not towards the top at the weak point where the buttons are...
 
Plus who makes a newer phone weaker than their older phone. Things should progress, not move backwards.
 
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The fact of the matter is simple. People are reporting bent phones. I don't know of any other phone that has this issues.

People reporting bend phones within days of release is an issues. Its really not hard to work out.
 
Like it was mentioned, their testing methodology is wrong, not to mention I'm' sure CR gets a nice little undercut from corporations when they "test" things.
 
Like it was mentioned, their testing methodology is wrong, not to mention I'm' sure CR gets a nice little undercut from corporations when they "test" things.

No, they don't

I am betting they do.

My parents used to buy stuff based on CR.. and after 4-5 pieces of crap, they started buying other stuff.

Yeah.. no payment for ratings going on there.
 
Like most things, the truth lies in the middle. Iphone6 is weak and prone to bending. If you're a normal person, you're probably fine. If you're an idiot stepping on your phone - ya, your gonna have a bad day.
 
This wouldn't be an issue IF it was just a couple of phones. Most people who buy iPhones do not abuse them, so if it can be bent just by the pressure in your pocket when you sit down.....there's an issue.

To channel Steve Jobs.....You are putting it in your pocket wrong.
 
CR could be an honest mistake. The iPhone 6+ is not uniformly weak, so if you use some kind of contraption that holds just the very edges and presses with a dot of force on the perfect center, you're going to get different results than if you concentrate the force unevenly towards the cutouts which is where it bends WAAAY easier.

After all, we aren't seeing the bottom part bent, its always the top part by the cutouts.
 
I bet you find very different results if you bend it corner to corner rather that edge to edge. Do that exact test and turn the phone 45 degrees.
 
I am betting they do.

My parents used to buy stuff based on CR.. and after 4-5 pieces of crap, they started buying other stuff.

Yeah.. no payment for ratings going on there.

I'd like to see you post any kind of citation proof whatsoever. Since I started reading ConsumerReports in the Mid-80's they have said that they don't accept any money from advertisers or manufactures and they purchase all products tested. They've also been around since the 1930's, don't you think if there was something scandalous going on after all of that time someone would have mentioned it?

Here's mine:

"Since its first issue in 1936, Consumer Reports (CR) has never accepted paid ads. Free from the pressures of advertisers and commercial influence, Consumer Reports has tackled some of the toughest safety issues of the time, evaluating new products and technologies and warning about potential dangers."

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/about-us/history/index.htm

"Most significant, and unlike most other publications, we buy everything we test."

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...the-ratings/testing/appliances-home/index.htm

Every single product I've purchased in the last 30 years based on their ratings I've been very happy with, and I know I'm not the only one. I'm middle aged and have only owned 2 cars in my lifetime.
 
I am betting they do.

My parents used to buy stuff based on CR.. and after 4-5 pieces of crap, they started buying other stuff.

Yeah.. no payment for ratings going on there.

Well then someone should've told consumer reports that back when they were validating antenna gate with the iPhone 4.

I'm pretty sure that they did not recommend that phone based on the antenna problems.
 
I really hate Consumer Reports...

I used their data to purchase a dishwasher.

The model I got was total crap, and the model I had been considering prior to reading the CR issue turned out to be good.

Yea... one sample... but I know of a few other people with disdain for CR due to similar experiences. In fact - I don't personally know of anyone who thought CR was helpful. They're all just pissed... and stopped subscribing.

One can say that this doesn't create a statistically significant... blah blah... whatever.

I think it's foolish to repeatedly disregard personal experience and impressions.

I can use CR as data, but when I do, I'm going to be considering the possibility that their work is either compromised, handled incompetently, or just limited in its usefulness due to an incomplete type of data collection.

This is pretty much what I prepare myself for when reading most reviews... unless I've decided that the source is reputable (like this site).

That said: Yea, CR didn't test the weak-point of the iphone 6 or 6+. At best, that's incompetence.

The phone itself is probably durable enough for most people, but I do wonder if there would be some minor curvature over time. I doubt I'd have a problem because I'm careful, but I know people who break everything they own... I wouldn't be surprised if such people created bends over time.
 
Yeah but they are trying to bend it directly in the middle not towards the top at the weak point where the buttons are...
the weak point...the weak point...the weak point...keep mulling that one over until you understand what it means
 
I'd like to see you post any kind of citation proof whatsoever. Since I started reading ConsumerReports in the Mid-80's they have said that they don't accept any money from advertisers or manufactures and they purchase all products tested. They've also been around since the 1930's, don't you think if there was something scandalous going on after all of that time someone would have mentioned it?

Here's mine:

"Since its first issue in 1936, Consumer Reports (CR) has never accepted paid ads. Free from the pressures of advertisers and commercial influence, Consumer Reports has tackled some of the toughest safety issues of the time, evaluating new products and technologies and warning about potential dangers."

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/about-us/history/index.htm

"Most significant, and unlike most other publications, we buy everything we test."

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/...the-ratings/testing/appliances-home/index.htm

Every single product I've purchased in the last 30 years based on their ratings I've been very happy with, and I know I'm not the only one. I'm middle aged and have only owned 2 cars in my lifetime.

Consumer reports is a company that repeatedly pumps up products they likes and undercuts the flaws they have. Bose, CR is all over that. I don't know if its purposeful or not but they seem to just constantly toot the horn of the uninformed masses. I have had the opposite experience mistake after mistake listening to CR. Just because something is around a long time doesn't mean anything. Look at the better business bureau that shit was flat out exposed on 60 minutes and they are still around and you still see people every day saying thing like the BBB gave them an A, or report them to the BBB. The reality is lots of pretty bad organizations can stick around forever because they are rolling in the cash from their misdeeds and uninformed clientele, and they can out spend, out advertise, and PR damage control problems.
 
I really hate Consumer Reports...
I used their data to purchase a dishwasher. The model I got was total crap, and the model I had been considering prior to reading the CR issue turned out to be good.

Yea... one sample... but I know of a few other people with disdain for CR due to similar experiences. In fact - I don't personally know of anyone who thought CR was helpful. They're all just pissed... and stopped subscribing.
I can use CR as data, but when I do, I'm going to be considering the possibility that their work is either compromised, handled incompetently, or just limited in its usefulness due to an incomplete type of data collection.

Completely different opinion here. I find Consumer Reports to be one of most unbiased sources on consumer products. I've also found their reliability ratings to be pretty accurate. I just replaced the washer I bought based on their ratings after 30 years of use. Still using the dryer :)

However, I don't always agree with their recommendations. Sometimes they put more weight on style or ease of use over reliability, especially the past several years. I tend to consider long term reliability much more important.

I bought a refrigerator years ago, that was highly rated by them, only to see that rating drop to the bottom 3 years later. However, when I looked back at the original review, I noticed that the reliability rating was "projected" based on the companies other appliances, since they had just started making refrigerators. I should have read the original ratings more carefully.
 
Working in the cellphone repair industry I have seen plenty of bent iPhone 5's (4's usually break at the antenna bands rather than bend the entire frame)... Most were under somewhat "extreme" conditions I admit but nonetheless I expect to see a far higher percentage of bent IP6/6+'s in the future based on the stress tests... If they are OCD I hope they have insurance (not really)... Frame swaps are pricey :).
 
Working in the cellphone repair industry I have seen plenty of bent iPhone 5's (4's usually break at the antenna bands rather than bend the entire frame)... Most were under somewhat "extreme" conditions I admit but nonetheless I expect to see a far higher percentage of bent IP6/6+'s in the future based on the stress tests... If they are OCD I hope they have insurance (not really)... Frame swaps are pricey :).


How many bent Note 3's have you seen?
 
Your trying to point out that because it was out of view 6 sec it was swapped out and replaced with a broken or compromised one. If that was the case they'd probably could face legal action. I doubt it tho.

It's been shown in other videos, that it's easy to do... right near the buttons. There's also reports of kids doing it at apple stores.
Apple said theres only 7~9 reported cases.So that's admitting it happens. You apply hand pressure behind near the side buttons and it will bend.

Other video he did before he tried with a normal iphone 6 (none +) and it had a dent but it didn't bend like the 6+. http://youtu.be/IROcoJeVfSI?t=1m39s
 
If you put the phone in your front pocket, the weak point of the button cut out lines up exactly with the bend where your leg meets your torso. If you're wearing jeans and now sit down, you're definitely going to bend your phone.
 
Just wanted to chime in with something, the real issue with those tests is that it forgets that fatigue is a real thing, and thus sure the strength to bend it in one go may seem high, but if it is applied in a repetitive manner a fraction of that strength could still be a problem, so yeah, over time this may be a bigger issue.
 
Consumer reports was one news at the same time as the guy who bend the phone in the viral video.....this is a legit problem....iphone 6 is easier to bend then almost everything else...nuff said....apple has admitted its a problem already, they f'd up and they know it.
 
Disagree. iPhone6 took 70lbs of force to bend. Mmm like someone sitting on it?

Compare that to the iPhone 5 that took nearly double that at 130lb.


Then how about people quit sitting on their God Damned phone? How hard is it? Hold it. Put it in a case on your belt. Plenty of options over sitting on it.

If you put a phone in your back pocket and sit down, and it comes out bent, that is the person's fault. Fuck sitting on it. That is a stupid thing to do with any phone.

My daughter did that with her S4, and cracked the screen. I said don't sit on it, idiot. She quit doing that when she got her new phone and no more problems.
 
I want to point out a few glaring problems with this report, I am surprised no one else caught it.

1) New iPhones are significantly less durable than pretty much everything else. The test proved this beyond doubt, why don't understand how this isn't a problem is beyond me.

2) His little pencil example really irked me. The machine tested the pencils flat he tried to break them as a bundle. There is a MASSIVE difference in the strength of things in those two configurations. That was such a misleading test I can't believe some of the sticklers around here weren't all over that. That said, the fact that a metal phone has the same bend stress as 4 wooden pencils is pretty sad.

3) They pointed out the point of no return where the phone is completely broken, but then omitted all the other phones. Makes one wonder just how much higher those were.


Now all that aside..Any of those phones a smart user is going to have in a case that eliminates the problem either way. I just found the "test" they did extremely dishonest.
 
Then how about people quit sitting on their God Damned phone? How hard is it? Hold it. Put it in a case on your belt. Plenty of options over sitting on it.

If you put a phone in your back pocket and sit down, and it comes out bent, that is the person's fault. Fuck sitting on it. That is a stupid thing to do with any phone.

My daughter did that with her S4, and cracked the screen. I said don't sit on it, idiot. She quit doing that when she got her new phone and no more problems.

The first reports I saw, the people weren't sitting on their iphones, they were bending from being in their front pocket. Which seems unacceptable to me.

I wonder if Apple will make a revision of the aluminum case to make it a bit more rigid around the buttons. I guess that will come down to how widespread this problem becomes.

I bought a Motorola Droid Razr when they were first released a couple of years ago, and I was so paranoid that I was going to bend/break that thing. It seemed so thin at the time, and for that reason I was careful with it at first. After a few months though, caution was thrown to the wind and I treated it like a cell phone. I sat on it a few times, had it in my pants pocket while rolling around on the blacktop working under my truck and such, and it never did bend or break. But maybe I was just lucky.
Bottom line is, anyone should be careful with a nice new expensive phone, but at the same time, you should be able to carry it in your pocket without fear of it bending.
 
Now all that aside..Any of those phones a smart user is going to have in a case that eliminates the problem either way. I just found the "test" they did extremely dishonest.

I would like to see someone do a bend test with different cases on the iphones to see how much it would help, if any at all.
 
my opinion...

The "thin" race has now hit a point of uselessness and even detrimental to the quality of the devices.

Heck even my first gen HTC One seems slightly too thin and slippery. Just the thinest case I could find helps a ton on how it fits and feels in my hand (sturdy).
 
This wouldn't be an issue IF it was just a couple of phones. Most people who buy iPhones do not abuse them, so if it can be bent just by the pressure in your pocket when you sit down.....there's an issue.

To channel Steve Jobs.....You are putting it in your pocket wrong.

Exactly. What moron puts a large mobile phone in their back pocket and sits on it? Anyone with a half brain understands its going to get damage.
 
This wouldn't be an issue IF it was just a couple of phones. Most people who buy iPhones do not abuse them, so if it can be bent just by the pressure in your pocket when you sit down.....there's an issue.

Well, last I heard it's around 9 phones out of 10million... so not exactly a staggering number :p

The only possible way that I could see, the 6 plus at least, bending (besides 'trying' to break it on purpose), is if it were in your back pocket and you plopped down on the edge of a counter or some other hard surface while wearing jeans, since they don't normally stretch much.

Having used it for a week or so, I can honestly say that I'm not worried about it. It's a very solid feeling device. I also wouldn't sit on it though.

I am surprised, however, that the plus did better than the 6. I'm guessing the case is slightly thicker on the plus? Or possibly just tolerance variances from manufacturing.
 
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