Completed Big Adv but no credit?

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capreppy

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I completed a Big Adv yesterday. Checked the log and it says it uploaded just fine, but have not seen any credit. I didn't get the base OR the bonus.

Anyone have this happen before?
 
you were robbed! call the point police!

No never happened to me, but stanford has the dreaded "if your points don't show up nothing we can do" clause (it's in the bigadv post of foldingforum.com).

Check your configuration maybe you're folding under anonymous or evga :D
 
It took almost 24 hours for my first one, anywhere between 1 and 3 updates for my others
Posted via [H] Mobile Device
 
I am missing one at the moment (sent 2 this morning, only one has posted so far.) I am not pnicing just yet, though. I confirmed that they both uploaded without issue.

 
Not my first Big Adv and I have check user name.

Kinda sucks as I've dropped some PpD and I needed it :( :(
 
You do need it, I'm only less than 3k ppd behind you :)

12th place, highest Ive hit on the list, 67.7k ppd :)

and much more on the way... FEAR ME!
 
You will take my place this week as my production overall WILL go down.

By end of week, hopefully I'll have the new i7 up and running with better cooling and that will take me over 100K PpD.
 
There does seem to be some bigadv WUs that didn't get credit last night. I had one myself.

If you copy and paste the info from your log in this format I can easily check to see if you got credit.

Like this ---> Project: 2681 (Run 3, Clone 3, Gen 89)

If you post it a different way it's time consuming for me to enter the info and my time is limited. ;)

If it turns out your WU didn't get credit post the same info plus the part of the log showing the successful upload like I did in this thread.

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=13893
 
Mine was one of these two:

Project: 2681 (Run 4, Clone 4, Gen 77)
Project: 2683 (Run 7, Clone 2, Gen 52)

Both were sent around 3 AM CST this morning. I only have credit for one of them.

 
musky said:
Mine was one of these two:

Project: 2681 (Run 4, Clone 4, Gen 77)
Project: 2683 (Run 7, Clone 2, Gen 52)
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Project 2681, Run 4, Clone 4, Gen 77
No data back from query

Hi musky (team 33),
Your WU (P2683 R7 C2 G52) was added to the stats database on 2010-03-21 03:04:34 for 53778.2 points of credit.
 
What does No data back from query mean? Here is what the log looks like for that one:
Code: 
[09:39:40] Finished Work Unit:
[09:39:40] - Reading up to 52713120 from "work/wudata_04.trr": Read 52713120
[09:39:41] trr file hash check passed.
[09:39:41] - Reading up to 42794636 from "work/wudata_04.xtc": Read 42794636
[09:39:41] xtc file hash check passed.
[09:39:41] edr file hash check passed.
[09:39:41] logfile size: 208908
[09:39:41] Leaving Run
[09:39:41] - Writing 95881972 bytes of core data to disk...
[09:39:46]   ... Done.
[09:40:53] - Shutting down core
[09:40:53] 
[09:40:53] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[09:43:05] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[09:43:05] Unit 4 finished with 56 percent of time to deadline remaining.
[09:43:05] Updated performance fraction: 0.612017
[09:43:05] Sending work to server
[09:43:05] Project: 2681 (Run 4, Clone 4, Gen 77)


[09:43:05] + Attempting to send results [March 21 09:43:05 UTC]
[09:43:05] - Reading file work/wuresults_04.dat from core
[09:43:05]   (Read 95881972 bytes from disk)
[09:43:05] Connecting to [url]http://171.67.108.22:8080/[/url]
[09:55:09] Posted data.
[09:55:09] Initial: 0000; - Uploaded at ~129 kB/s
[09:55:10] - Averaged speed for that direction ~120 kB/s
[09:55:10] + Results successfully sent
[09:55:10] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[09:55:10] + Number of Units Completed: 13
 
Hmmmm, I sent one up this morning and have not seen any credit for it as well. I'm about to send another one up in about 15 minutes, so I'm betting it doesn't get anything either. :(

Is this the info you guys need to figure out if it posted or not?

Code: 
[16:16:57] Completed 250000 out of 250000 steps  (100%)
[16:17:07] DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
[16:17:17] 
[16:17:17] Finished Work Unit:
[16:17:17] - Reading up to 52713120 from "work/wudata_09.trr": Read 52713120
[16:17:17] trr file hash check passed.
[16:17:17] - Reading up to 47025772 from "work/wudata_09.xtc": Read 47025772
[16:17:18] xtc file hash check passed.
[16:17:18] edr file hash check passed.
[16:17:18] logfile size: 207899
[16:17:18] Leaving Run
[16:17:18] - Writing 100111707 bytes of core data to disk...
[16:17:23]   ... Done.
[16:17:43] - Shutting down core
[16:17:43] 
[16:17:43] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[16:20:39] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[16:20:39] Unit 9 finished with 35 percent of time to deadline remaining.
[16:20:39] Updated performance fraction: 0.545244
[16:20:39] Sending work to server
[16:20:39] Project: 2681 (Run 3, Clone 3, Gen 89)


[16:20:39] + Attempting to send results [March 21 16:20:39 UTC]
[16:20:39] - Reading file work/wuresults_09.dat from core
[16:20:39]   (Read 100111707 bytes from disk)
[16:20:39] Connecting to http://171.67.108.22:8080/
[16:38:29] Posted data.
[16:38:30] Initial: 0000; - Uploaded at ~91 kB/s
[16:38:30] - Averaged speed for that direction ~77 kB/s
[16:38:30] + Results successfully sent
[16:38:30] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[16:38:30] + Number of Units Completed: 9
 
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Axdrenalin said:
Hmmmm, I sent one up this morning and have not seen any credit for it as well. I'm about to send another one up in about 15 minutes, so I'm betting it doesn't get anything either. :(
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Project 2681, Run 3, Clone 3, Gen 89
No data back from query
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That one is missing from the db. You should be ok on your next WU. This issue seems to only apply to WUs turned in last night. I got credit for a bigadv WU turned in later this morning.

I'll post the info for your missing WU in the FF thread.
 
I have credit now for 1, I'm wondering if things are just behind (they could be).
my 1st from i7-1 around 1am CST
Code: 
- Preparing to get new work unit...
[21:20:21] Cleaning up work directory
[21:20:55] + Attempting to get work packet
[21:20:55] Passkey found
[21:20:55] - Connecting to assignment server
[21:20:55] - Successful: assigned to (171.67.108.22).
[21:20:55] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[21:20:56] Loaded queue successfully.
[21:23:10] + Closed connections
[21:23:10] 
[21:23:10] + Processing work unit
[21:23:10] Core required: FahCore_a2.exe
[21:23:10] Core found.
[21:23:10] Working on queue slot 01 [March 18 21:23:10 UTC]
[21:23:10] + Working ...
[21:23:10] 
[21:23:10] *------------------------------*
[21:23:10] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[21:23:10] Version 2.10 (Sun Aug 30 03:43:28 CEST 2009)
[21:23:10] 
[21:23:10] Preparing to commence simulation
[21:23:10] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[21:23:14] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=30333440 data_size=159726549, decompressed_data_size=159726549 diff=0
[21:23:17] - Digital signature verified
[21:23:17] 
[21:23:17] Project: 2681 (Run 2, Clone 14, Gen 90)
[21:23:17] 
[21:23:17] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[21:23:17] Entering M.D.
[21:23:37] (Run 2, Clone 14, Gen 90)
[21:23:37] 
[21:23:37] Entering M.D.
[21:58:22] pleted 2500 out of 250000 steps  (1%)
[22:32:20] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps  (2%)
[23:06:13] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps  (3%)
[23:40:17] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps  (4%)
[00:16:01] Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps  (5%)
[00:51:38] Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps  (6%)
[01:27:38] Completed 17500 out of 250000 steps  (7%)
[02:05:38] Completed 20000 out of 250000 steps  (8%)
[02:40:46] Completed 22500 out of 250000 steps  (9%)
[03:14:23] Completed 25000 out of 250000 steps  (10%)
[03:47:57] Completed 27500 out of 250000 steps  (11%)
[04:22:38] Completed 30000 out of 250000 steps  (12%)
[04:58:24] Completed 32500 out of 250000 steps  (13%)
[05:33:08] Completed 35000 out of 250000 steps  (14%)
[06:08:00] Completed 37500 out of 250000 steps  (15%)
[06:43:00] Completed 40000 out of 250000 steps  (16%)
[07:17:43] Completed 42500 out of 250000 steps  (17%)
[07:52:43] Completed 45000 out of 250000 steps  (18%)
[08:28:22] Completed 47500 out of 250000 steps  (19%)
[09:03:27] Completed 50000 out of 250000 steps  (20%)
[09:38:31] Completed 52500 out of 250000 steps  (21%)
[10:13:15] Completed 55000 out of 250000 steps  (22%)
[10:47:47] Completed 57500 out of 250000 steps  (23%)
[11:22:27] Completed 60000 out of 250000 steps  (24%)
[11:57:11] Completed 62500 out of 250000 steps  (25%)
[12:31:48] Completed 65000 out of 250000 steps  (26%)
[13:06:33] Completed 67500 out of 250000 steps  (27%)
[13:41:25] Completed 70000 out of 250000 steps  (28%)
[14:16:15] Completed 72500 out of 250000 steps  (29%)
[14:51:07] Completed 75000 out of 250000 steps  (30%)
[15:26:06] Completed 77500 out of 250000 steps  (31%)
[16:00:36] Completed 80000 out of 250000 steps  (32%)
[16:34:43] Completed 82500 out of 250000 steps  (33%)
[17:08:34] Completed 85000 out of 250000 steps  (34%)
[17:43:00] Completed 87500 out of 250000 steps  (35%)
[18:17:03] Completed 90000 out of 250000 steps  (36%)
[18:50:54] Completed 92500 out of 250000 steps  (37%)
[19:24:41] Completed 95000 out of 250000 steps  (38%)
[19:58:21] Completed 97500 out of 250000 steps  (39%)
[20:33:06] Completed 100000 out of 250000 steps  (40%)
[21:07:37] Completed 102500 out of 250000 steps  (41%)
[21:43:15] Completed 105000 out of 250000 steps  (42%)
[22:18:59] Completed 107500 out of 250000 steps  (43%)
[22:54:50] Completed 110000 out of 250000 steps  (44%)
[23:30:21] Completed 112500 out of 250000 steps  (45%)
[00:05:35] Completed 115000 out of 250000 steps  (46%)
[00:40:44] Completed 117500 out of 250000 steps  (47%)
[01:14:29] Completed 120000 out of 250000 steps  (48%)
[01:48:43] Completed 122500 out of 250000 steps  (49%)
[02:22:46] Completed 125000 out of 250000 steps  (50%)
[02:56:46] Completed 127500 out of 250000 steps  (51%)
[03:32:28] Completed 130000 out of 250000 steps  (52%)
[04:08:29] Completed 132500 out of 250000 steps  (53%)
[04:44:17] Completed 135000 out of 250000 steps  (54%)
[05:19:48] Completed 137500 out of 250000 steps  (55%)
[05:54:17] Completed 140000 out of 250000 steps  (56%)
[06:28:16] Completed 142500 out of 250000 steps  (57%)
[07:02:10] Completed 145000 out of 250000 steps  (58%)
[07:35:29] Completed 147500 out of 250000 steps  (59%)
[08:09:14] Completed 150000 out of 250000 steps  (60%)
[08:43:09] Completed 152500 out of 250000 steps  (61%)
[09:17:02] Completed 155000 out of 250000 steps  (62%)
[09:51:00] Completed 157500 out of 250000 steps  (63%)
[10:25:18] Completed 160000 out of 250000 steps  (64%)
[10:59:06] Completed 162500 out of 250000 steps  (65%)
[11:33:01] Completed 165000 out of 250000 steps  (66%)
[12:08:05] Completed 167500 out of 250000 steps  (67%)
[12:42:20] Completed 170000 out of 250000 steps  (68%)
[13:16:55] Completed 172500 out of 250000 steps  (69%)
[13:52:35] Completed 175000 out of 250000 steps  (70%)
[14:28:03] Completed 177500 out of 250000 steps  (71%)
[15:03:48] Completed 180000 out of 250000 steps  (72%)
[15:39:33] Completed 182500 out of 250000 steps  (73%)
[16:15:40] Completed 185000 out of 250000 steps  (74%)
[16:51:05] Completed 187500 out of 250000 steps  (75%)
[17:24:39] Completed 190000 out of 250000 steps  (76%)
[17:58:21] Completed 192500 out of 250000 steps  (77%)
[18:32:42] Completed 195000 out of 250000 steps  (78%)
[19:07:23] Completed 197500 out of 250000 steps  (79%)
[19:41:37] Completed 200000 out of 250000 steps  (80%)
[20:15:54] Completed 202500 out of 250000 steps  (81%)
[20:49:53] Completed 205000 out of 250000 steps  (82%)
[21:24:27] Completed 207500 out of 250000 steps  (83%)
[21:58:38] Completed 210000 out of 250000 steps  (84%)
[22:33:28] Completed 212500 out of 250000 steps  (85%)
[23:08:22] Completed 215000 out of 250000 steps  (86%)
[23:43:45] Completed 217500 out of 250000 steps  (87%)
[00:17:03] Completed 220000 out of 250000 steps  (88%)
[00:48:57] Completed 222500 out of 250000 steps  (89%)
[01:20:50] Completed 225000 out of 250000 steps  (90%)
[01:52:49] Completed 227500 out of 250000 steps  (91%)
[02:24:39] Completed 230000 out of 250000 steps  (92%)
[02:56:57] Completed 232500 out of 250000 steps  (93%)
[03:28:51] Completed 235000 out of 250000 steps  (94%)
[04:01:49] Completed 237500 out of 250000 steps  (95%)
[04:36:35] Completed 240000 out of 250000 steps  (96%)
[05:11:22] Completed 242500 out of 250000 steps  (97%)
[05:45:53] Completed 245000 out of 250000 steps  (98%)
[06:20:02] Completed 247500 out of 250000 steps  (99%)
[06:54:27] Completed 250000 out of 250000 steps  (100%)
[06:54:37] DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
[06:54:47] 
[06:54:47] Finished Work Unit:
[06:54:47] - Reading up to 52713120 from "work/wudata_01.trr": Read 52713120
[06:54:47] trr file hash check passed.
[06:54:47] - Reading up to 47026068 from "work/wudata_01.xtc": Read 47026068
[06:54:48] xtc file hash check passed.
[06:54:48] edr file hash check passed.
[06:54:48] logfile size: 206888
[06:54:48] Leaving Run
[06:54:48] - Writing 100110992 bytes of core data to disk...
[06:54:52]   ... Done.
[07:02:53] - Shutting down core
[07:02:53] 
[07:02:53] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[07:03:36] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[07:03:36] Sending work to server
[07:03:36] Project: 2681 (Run 2, Clone 14, Gen 90)


[07:03:36] + Attempting to send results [March 21 07:03:36 UTC]
[07:24:09] + Results successfully sent
[07:24:09] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[07:24:09] + Number of Units Completed: 3

[07:26:13]

i7-2 this afternoon around 4pm CST
Code: 
--- Opening Log file [March 21 19:12:45 UTC] 


# Linux SMP Console Edition ###################################################
###############################################################################

                       Folding@Home Client Version 6.29

                          http://folding.stanford.edu

###############################################################################
###############################################################################

Launch directory: /usr/local/fah
Executable: ./fah6
Arguments: -bigadv -smp 8 -oneunit 

[19:12:45] - Ask before connecting: No
[19:12:45] - User name: zero2dash (Team 33)
[19:12:45] - User ID: 3A4AD1E96536C8FB
[19:12:45] - Machine ID: 1
[19:12:45] 
[19:12:45] Loaded queue successfully.
[19:12:45] 
[19:12:45] + Processing work unit
[19:12:45] Core required: FahCore_a2.exe
[19:12:45] Core found.
[19:12:45] Working on queue slot 03 [March 21 19:12:45 UTC]
[19:12:45] + Working ...
[19:12:45] 
[19:12:45] *------------------------------*
[19:12:45] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[19:12:45] Version 2.10 (Sun Aug 30 03:43:28 CEST 2009)
[19:12:45] 
[19:12:45] Preparing to commence simulation
[19:12:45] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[19:12:45] Files status OK
[19:12:49] - Expanded 30331548 -> 159726549 (decompressed 101.8 percent)
[19:12:49] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=30331548 data_size=159726549, decompressed_data_size=159726549 diff=0
[19:12:49] - Digital signature verified
[19:12:49] 
[19:12:49] Project: 2681 (Run 9, Clone 1, Gen 68)
[19:12:49] 
[19:12:50] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[19:12:50] Entering M.D.
[19:12:55] Using Gromacs checkpoints
[19:13:00] 
[19:13:00] Entering M.D.
[19:13:07] Using Gromacs checkpoints
[19:13:22] data_03.log
[19:13:22] Verified work/wudata_03.trr
[19:13:23] Verified work/wudata_03.xtc
[19:13:23] Verified work/wudata_03.edr
[19:13:24] Completed 248209 out of 250001 steps  (99%)
[19:38:14] Completed 250001 out of 250001 steps  (100%)
[19:38:28] DynamicWrapper: Finished Work Unit: sleep=10000
[19:38:38] 
[19:38:39] Finished Work Unit:
[19:38:39] - Reading up to 52713120 from "work/wudata_03.trr": Read 52713120
[19:38:40] trr file hash check passed.
[19:38:40] - Reading up to 42832892 from "work/wudata_03.xtc": Read 42832892
[19:38:41] xtc file hash check passed.
[19:38:41] edr file hash check passed.
[19:38:41] logfile size: 208467
[19:38:41] Leaving Run
[19:38:43] - Writing 95919787 bytes of core data to disk...
[19:38:50]   ... Done.
[19:40:41] - Shutting down core
[19:40:41] 
[19:40:41] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[19:42:03] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[19:42:03] Sending work to server
[19:42:03] Project: 2681 (Run 9, Clone 1, Gen 68)


[19:42:03] + Attempting to send results [March 21 19:42:03 UTC]
[20:01:54] + Results successfully sent
[20:01:54] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[20:01:54] + Number of Units Completed: 3

[20:02:22] + -oneunit flag given and have now finished a unit. Exiting.- Preparing to get new work unit...

Folding@Home Client Shutdown.
[20:02:22] Cleaning up work directory

I could have credit for the 1st one now, and credit for #2 is coming...
ChelseaOilman, can you check this for me as well? I'd appreciate it.
(I tried to see if there was a way I could check myself but I didn't find one.) TIA
 
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15:28:51] Unit 5 finished with 53 percent of time to deadline remaining.
[15:28:51] Updated performance fraction: 0.512683
[15:28:51] Sending work to server
[15:28:51] Project: 2681 (Run 4, Clone 1, Gen 81)

As of this writing, I still haven't gotten credit for it

edit: I did post on FF
 
I think this one did not get any credit for me.

Code: 
[18:46:57] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[18:49:51] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[18:49:51] Unit 3 finished with 62 percent of time to deadline remaining.
[18:49:51] Updated performance fraction: 0.601832
[18:49:51] Sending work to server
[18:49:51] Project: 2681 (Run 8, Clone 18, Gen 69)


[18:49:51] + Attempting to send results [March 21 18:49:51 UTC]
[18:49:51] - Reading file work/wuresults_03.dat from core
[18:49:52]   (Read 95835100 bytes from disk)
[18:49:52] Connecting to http://171.67.108.22:8080/
[19:23:30] Posted data.
[19:23:30] Initial: 0000; - Uploaded at ~46 kB/s
[19:23:31] - Averaged speed for that direction ~41 kB/s
[19:23:31] + Results successfully sent
[19:23:31] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.

Luck .............. :D
 
Nothing for this one either:

Project: 2681 (Run 2, Clone 15, Gen 77)

Code: 
[22:21:59] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[22:25:05] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[22:25:05] Unit 6 finished with 65 percent of time to deadline remaining.
[22:25:05] Updated performance fraction: 0.780688
[22:25:05] Sending work to server
[22:25:05] Project: 2681 (Run 2, Clone 15, Gen 77)


[22:25:05] + Attempting to send results [March 21 22:25:05 UTC]
[22:25:05] - Reading file work/wuresults_06.dat from core
[22:25:05]   (Read 95918386 bytes from disk)
[22:25:05] Connecting to http://171.67.108.22:8080/
[22:37:10] Posted data.
[22:37:10] Initial: 0000; - Uploaded at ~129 kB/s
[22:37:11] - Averaged speed for that direction ~119 kB/s
[22:37:11] + Results successfully sent
[22:37:11] Thank you for your contribution to Folding@Home.
[22:37:11] + Number of Units Completed: 14

 
Looks like this should be fixed now.

Re: 171.67.108.22 (bigadv) Missing credits?
by kasson » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:49 am

We see the issue and are working on it. All returns from here on out should work properly.
(BTW, could a mod merge the bigadv missing credits threads?)
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musky said:
Looks like this should be fixed now.
Click to expand...

I hope so, but I'm still missing credit for one of the two -bigadv units I uploaded yesterday. I have yet another one that should complete later today, so hopefully they will get the credit part straightened out before it all gets too saturated to figure out.
 
+1 Agreed. Same here too....completed 2, have credit for 1 so far. I'm sure the credit is coming though.
 
I am missing credit for two yesterday, so I really want this figured out.
 
I am unfortunately going to have to agree with zero2dash. I think they can fix going forward, but they may (or may not) be able to fix those that went up during the blackout period.
 
I've got one that should post with the 4pm EST update today (crosses fingers). Had one post yesterday afternoon that I received points for, but still nothing on my first one from yesterday morning that never posted / received credit, though.
 
I've given up hope on the one that was lost yesterday.

It does sound as if the isue has been corrected going foward, just not for those that were lost during the period in question.
 
I'm just catching up on this story. What's goin' on with the servers?
 
short story:

there was a small window of time yesterday morning (don't know the specific start/stop of this window). During this time, any Big Adv WU submitted basically got "lost" and no credit was given. Issue has been rectified, but it doesn't look as if those WUs that were lost are recoverable so peeps (including me) will not get credit.

I would like to think that they could give us credit, but I am not holding my breath. Their servers didn't recognize receipt of it so no way to say that I completed it (other than my log file which they have confirmed on their end it didn't make it)
 
I'm still waiting on credit for 1 and I'm a little perturbed that no mention has been given yet by anyone (kasson or someone else) about digging up and crediting those of us who completed and uploaded WU's and have no credit for them.

Again I would like to think "it's coming", but the lack of mention I find disturbing. :mad:
 
Zero, the problem is the lack of its existence in their DB. Because they have no record of it having been sent, they have no way to retroactively credit peeps.

All we have as any sort of "proof" is our fahlog.
 
capreppy said:
Zero, the problem is the lack of its existence in their DB. Because they have no record of it having been sent, they have no way to retroactively credit peeps.

All we have as any sort of "proof" is our fahlog.
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So, are we speculating that they have no log file of the specific work unit being uploaded here? I kind of doubt that would be the case...surely there is some transfer log at their end of the units being transmitted back for credit purposes, regardless of whether the units were logged in their DB or not. Between our Fahlog and their upload logs, I'm hoping there is a viable solution to the somewhat large SNAFU we've got going on here.

I have a hard time believing that they just crapped out some units and sent them to us not knowing about them or putting them *somewhere*, if not in their DB.
 
Not entirely speculation, but some.

The FF post linked above shows WUs not registering their DB.

You are probably correct in that they can look at their upload logs, but not sure if they are willing or have the resources to do that. I hope they can, but right now, I have set my expectations pretty damn low so I don't get disappointed :(
 
capreppy said:
All we have as any sort of "proof" is our fahlog.
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I think that's proof enough though! :)
They should have some sort of logging on their end that logs not only inbound/outbound IP connections, but probably also WU distribution to those IP addresses. I know very little about servers and absolutely 0 about Stanford's servers, but I would think any server nowadays has logging turned on by default, and archives logs after whatever period (1 day, 7 days, whatever).

I find a hard time believing that they can't say "ok we received a completed WU from IP address x.x.x.x, the WU is not in our DB however username "y" did process the WU and should therefore receive credit for it".

I mean I'm not trying to dump on Stanford (or whomever), but if this type of stuff is allowed to go down, what's the point of Folding if no one gets credit for what they do? Why keep track of anything if that's the case. Why have usernames, teams, passkeys, etc. ? I'm not saying this just because I'm absent those credits, I say it because it makes sense (or rather doesn't make sense). There's no reason for them not to retroactively dish out credits for completed bigadv units, it doesn't matter if for whatever reason they're not in their DB. That wouldn't make any sense either; why have WU's if they're not in the DB? If that was the case, monitoring software would wig out because it wouldn't know WTF WU it was processing and you'd have ???? or whatever.

I'm not saying I want to shut down the farm but I hope this isn't an indication of how things are run there (or how they will start being run there). :(
I mean I know the nV servers have had their issues over the last month or so, and there's been power outages out of their control....I just don't get how something this irritating can happen in a system designed for this grand of a scale of computing and user interaction.
 
I am sorry if my comments are causing a ruckus. It was not intended to.

I am at this point making conjecture. I am also trying to set my expectations low for the resolution of this hickup.

Do I hope they can fix the problem? Of course I do. Do I personally believe they can, no :(
 
No, cap, I didn't feel as if you were causing a ruckus...there's no negative to saying what you've said or anything (usually I'm the one that plays devil's advocate when I get the chance, actually...haha). :)

Again though it brings me to a point I just made - if they can't fix this or don't want to fix this, then what's the point of keeping track of anything at all? :( That would make me a very sad panda, but the argument has to be made.

I'm not trying to start a ruckus myself with that comment, but I mean come on. We donate our time and money (whether by buying parts or by paying a little more on the electric bill every month), we receive no monetary compensation...I think the least we (as folders) could ask for that Stanford, the Pande group, (whatever) should give is some sort of mechanism to keep track of some things and dish out credit to users when they complete their stuff. Accidents and server troubles can happen and I understand that (and don't have a problem with that), but there's no excuse for not rectifying the situation. Hopefully this is all a moot point and that's exactly what happens. :eek:
 
I would suggest everyone post in the FF if you haven't already since we're not being told anything at all. :rolleyes:
 
I've posted over there, but there have been no updates from Stanford on this issue.
 
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