Chinese Intelligence Officers Conspired to Steal Aviation Turbofan Engine Technology

[c3k]

Then obviously you've never witnessed a Russian SU-35 perform a Pugachev's Cobra maneuver.

I have, along with a number of other military vets at a private airshow in Europe, and let me say the emotion completely overwhelmed us and broke us. That pilot had "brought the venom".

Their engines have a lifespan measured around 1/10 that of Western engines. As well, the supercruise capabilities are, at most, a novelty for them. The SU35 (and the F22, F35, Eurofighter Typhoon) perform the "Cobra" and "Falling Leaf" maneuvers mainly through raw thrust and extremely capable flight controls using advanced fly-by-wire algorithms. It has nothing to do with range, ANMPP, efficiency, or maintainability.

 

[DPI]

Their engines have a lifespan measured around 1/10 that of Western engines. As well, the supercruise capabilities are, at most, a novelty for them. The SU35 (and the F22, F35, Eurofighter Typhoon) perform the "Cobra" and "Falling Leaf" maneuvers mainly through raw thrust and extremely capable flight controls using advanced fly-by-wire algorithms. It has nothing to do with range, ANMPP, efficiency, or maintainability.

You weren't there, my man. They had Welcome to the Jungle playing over the loudspeakers as the aircraft went into the move.

If the Ruskies pull a cobra in the new Top Gun remake it's goodbye Tom Cruise.

 

[kju1]

You weren't there, my man. They had Welcome to the Jungle playing over the loudspeakers as the jet went into the move.

If the Ruskies pull a cobra in the new Top Gun remake it's goodbye Tom Cruise.

Emotions have no place in science and engineering.

 

[katanaD]

And yet there will be no actual repercussions for their actions.

of course there will be repercussions. If they did their job well, they will get a promotion or other reward, just like you or me..

 

[[Spectre]]

Then obviously you've never witnessed a Russian SU-35 perform a Pugachev's Cobra maneuver.

I have, along with a number of military vets at a private airshow in Europe, and let me say the emotion completely overwhelmed us and broke us as rock music played.

Only by an older SU-27.....and that has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of Russian engines which is what was being discussed.

 

[Lakados]

of course there will be repercussions. If they did their job well, they will get a promotion or other reward, just like you or me..

They got caught, they will be disappeared....

 

[theBrownLlama]

They don’t have many options, it would take decades and hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild the tech manufacturing infrastructure outside of China. And even if they did it would require hundreds of thousands of skilled labourers that don’t exist. So while on paper I agree it should happen and needs to happen, I can’t see any publicaly traded company spending the money to invest in that sort of project. They will wait out the tariffs and just pass the costs on.

Just need to hit them with sanctions high enough to make operating factories in China non-feasible. Like you said, it is all about the money. There is only that much of a price increase consumers can stomach to sustain the stock-holder's profit margins. ( on this, i'm on the side of the fence that says a perpetual inflation of expected profits is just plain bad for everyone else . Say an elite gets 20% in profits, must he demand 22% next year? sigh. )

Course US can implementing sanctions, but that is really the nuclear option. We are far from that situation.

 

[theBrownLlama]

You need to research academic fraud and plagiarism in China before making any kind of statement or using the guardian and Cosmo. It is incredibly common for Chinese "scientists" to wholesale fabricate experimental data, manuscripts, and breakthroughs. When they aren't doing that they often copy manuscripts published elsewhere and republish them (either their own work or others). In the fields I have worked, pay to publish Chinese paper mills so far outstrip the legitimate ones that we don't even look at their "work". We learned long ago what is becoming more apparent now to everyone else.

yep. Alot (really ALLOOTT) of fancy, national-paper hyped news about breakthroughs (it's part of their propaganda strategy. The 'China is No.1 , better than everyone else, especially the USA' mantra. They have been doing it since the Cold War, but never stopped) Unlike the West where there is substance in these announcements and you can actually dig deep into them if you spend time researching.

 

[HorseproofBacon]

The problem with your statement is you said Chinese rather than China although even that narrative would be false. If you look at scientific breakthroughs in the last few decades, a ton of them have been made by Chinese scientists. There’s this air of thinly veiled racism by people who make sweeping generalizations like you did.

https://www.theguardian.com/science...ation-investment-5g-genetics-quantum-internet

https://cosmosmagazine.com/physics/china-set-to-become-global-science-leader-by-2025

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It's no more "racist" than calling people Americans or Canadians. People in China are referred to as "Chinese". I'm sorry you failed to comprehend that. Perhaps educate yourself a bit more before tossing out baseless watered down remarks?

"What do you call someone from China? In other words, what are people from China called? A person from China and/or a citizen of China is called Chinese."

https://researchmaniacs.com/Demonyms/Countries/WhatDoYouCallPeopleFromChina.html

 

[kju1]

It's no more "racist" than calling people Americans or Canadians. People in China are referred to as "Chinese". I'm sorry you failed to comprehend that. Perhaps educate yourself a bit more before tossing out baseless watered down remarks?

"What do you call someone from China? In other words, what are people from China called? A person from China and/or a citizen of China is called Chinese."

https://researchmaniacs.com/Demonyms/Countries/WhatDoYouCallPeopleFromChina.html

Exactly. Now this would be racist: "I call em slanty eyed thieves!"

Calling a rose a rose is not racist. Despite what many today would have you think.

 

[kirbyrj]

Have the chinese innovated anything noteworthy in the last 100 years? All they seem to do anymore is just steal tech. What happened to the days when they were innovative and invented stuff like gunpowder?

Communism does wonders for innovation.





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