China to Cancel College Majors That Don’t Pay

wuzupfoo

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You do not understand anything about economics. The reason the US is in trouble is because we have a stagnant population and a tax code designed for a growing population. Most people only have 2 kids which means no growth. Immigration is how we grow and the major reason that the USA is more resiliant than other countries even though we were the country that caused this mess in large part. If life was fair we would be bankrupt not greece. It was our houseing crisis and our selling bad loans that caused this mess.

Also its not wars either. It is simply a system designed for a different time and we either need to boost our work force or we need to restructure the taxes and spending. Wars did not make Americans go buy houses they could not afford. Wars are not what is causing medical costs to explode. Wars did not cause us to build massive houses for smaller average families and buy more cars than we need. The USA is in trouble because we are totally out of touch with reality. And it is the hard working immigrants that come in and do the shitty jobs Americans are unwilling to do and spend what they have that are keeping us from falling apart.

Also another point on immigration. An illegal immigrant working in the USA is in fact working in the USA. If he doesn't work here his job will probably be outsourced. My point is I would rather see a reduction in pay and have a job than lose my job all together. That seems to be the point most Americans completely miss. Immigrants come here and live at the same costs but they are willing to worker harder for less. And all we can do is complain until all our jobs are outsourced to China.

agreed on all your points. I was absolutely shocked at what was written and wasnt as careful, shouldve mentioned, fighting 2 wars AND cutting taxes.. genius idea btw.. guns and butter..
 

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Also its not wars either. It is simply a system designed for a different time and we either need to boost our work force or we need to restructure the taxes and spending. Wars did not make Americans go buy houses they could not afford. Wars are not what is causing medical costs to explode. Wars did not cause us to build massive houses for smaller average families and buy more cars than we need. The USA is in trouble because we are totally out of touch with reality. And it is the hard working immigrants that come in and do the shitty jobs Americans are unwilling to do and spend what they have that are keeping us from falling apart.

No, but spending trillions of dollars dropping bombs in 3rd world countries drove us much further into debt and limited our ability to react to the recessions. Further we spend 50% of our tax revenue on "defense", further limiting our ability to improve our infrastructure and improve the foundation upon which others can build economic activity.
 

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We have been fighting wars almost every 15 years yet it has not caused us to default, Japan has not been allowed to fight wars and somehow they are also in a similar stagnant economy like ours with a ballooning national debt as normalized by GDP which puts ours to shame. In fact who said we could not adapt to the economy, we did , and compared to most countries the USA pulled it off sooner. Look at Europe if you want to see how to pull a bag over your head and pretend it is not happening. Who in the world fights more wars than the USA? How come our situation is not the worst?

Every little bit helps and I agree we could do a better job avoiding wars but that ain't the real problem. If you want to pull a bias bag over your head and ignore the real problem it will never get fixed. People don't make enough kids something wrong, the viagra aint helping I don't know.
 

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We have been fighting wars almost every 15 years yet it has not caused us to default, Japan has not been allowed to fight wars and somehow they are also in a similar stagnant economy like ours with a ballooning national debt as normalized by GDP which puts ours to shame. In fact who said we could not adapt to the economy, we did , and compared to most countries the USA pulled it off sooner. Look at Europe if you want to see how to pull a bag over your head and pretend it is not happening. Who in the world fights more wars than the USA? How come our situation is not the worst?

Every little bit helps and I agree we could do a better job avoiding wars but that ain't the real problem. If you want to pull a bias bag over your head and ignore the real problem it will never get fixed. People don't make enough kids something wrong, the viagra aint helping I don't know.

That just means we've been wasting a huge chunk of our resources for a long long time, nothing to be proud of. Just because we make a buttload of cash that we can burn doesn't mean it's wise, we just ate our seed corn, now the chickens are coming home to roost.
 

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Japan has not been allowed to fight wars and somehow they are also in a similar stagnant economy like ours with a ballooning national debt as normalized by GDP which puts ours to shame.

Japan is the 6th highest millitary spender in the world (just behind Russia). It's only 1% of their GDP unlike the USs 4.7% but still :p

The US could only spend another $100b (another 14%), it would make up a nice 50% of the worlds total millitary spending :D
 

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And China spends more than Japan when normalized for GDP yet they are in great financial shape.
 

Wierdo

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And China spends more than Japan when normalized for GDP yet they are in great financial shape.

China spends more wisely, they're longterm thinkers, that's why they're such fierce competitors.
 

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Exactly so we need to wise up about our spending and revenue (taxes) and it's not the military spending.
 

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Bad move China.... All the great civilizations in history had thriving arts and cultural programs

Yes and they didn't have to end their artists to college to achieve that. They were actually trained by a master doing what they want to do. Not taking useless courses.

College should be training for the career you want. Not the self serving mess it is today.
 

Rockjay420

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This is why China is and will continue to beat the ever-loving crap out of the US. They can make unpopular but necessary decisions. How stupid is it to loan an 18 year old 150k to get a philosophy degree? How stupid is it when the government backs unconditionally each and every one of these loans? How stupid is it that our country has a massive shortage of engineers and scientists? Well that last one may just be propaganda since salaries are not rising.

Beat the crap out of? When did we start competing for the biggest dick competition?
China is a fucked up nation, with little or no regard for personal freedoms, political corruption is rampant and combined with their unsustainable environmental practices, they will destroy themselves.
Millions of kids in the US will be educated in college with a major of their choice, sometimes helped by the government. That freedom to choose, is part of what makes our country great, we don't need to compare ourselves to the Commies to validate our awesomeness.
 

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Regardless of their government. The chinese people themselves are famous for being thrifty. Getting money out of a chinese businessman is like pulling teeth.
 

Wierdo

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Exactly so we need to wise up about our spending and revenue (taxes) and it's not the military spending.

It certainly is military spending among other things. We make enough money to waste on military spending, doesn't mean we're overspending. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
 

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I believe people should have the freedom to go to college or university for any program they wish. However I also am against welfare and bailouts so when they fail they would be screwed if I made the laws.
 

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Might as well throw in this as a comparison:
Entire budget of U.S. Geological Survey (~1.1 Billion) = 13 hours of the military spending.

I mention the above department because it was supposed to be one of those some candidates this year was proposing to axe, apparently earthquake warnings and such are not important enough.
 

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The "first world" is not tightening anything up on immigrants. The US lets in more immigrants than any other country. However, hopefully the US starts doing something about the illegal invaders, before we do become "third world." We are more in debt than any other country. At 105% debt to GDP, we are very near bankruptcy. Greece went bankrupt @ 129% and we are projected to hit ~175% debt to GDP by 2021. The illegal invaders are a massive contribution to that problem.

So so true. Those illegal invading nasty horrible terrible awful source-of-all-known-problems-since-christ-hung-himself-for-us aliens are totally ruining the system. Why they come into our country and work at McDonalds so our sons and daughters can't work at McDonalds during the evening shift doing janitorial work. How can they have a future when they can't work at McDonalds between the hours of 4:00am to 8:00am cleaning the men and women's bathrooms part time?

Then, they take their non-existant social security number and use it to apply for social security totally draining that system too! They collect massive amounts of welfare every year even though they have no social security number which is necessary to collect welfare. Think about it and the crazy loophole logic might start to make sense. It's just like those evil nasty illegal immigrants to trick us.

Lastly, they suck our healthcare system dry. The free healthcare offered to every Man Woman and Child in this great United States of 'Canada' allows these illegal immigrants to walk right into our hospital and show their top-quality insurance card from their local McDonalds job and get free treatment. B/c you totally need private insurance to get care, and they have it, right? am I right or am I right? See my crazy theories make as much sense as your logic! Infact, they are so insidiously evil they even go as far as using their care cards to get free Obama-healthcare that they applied for with their non-existant social security number.

Damn those immigrants. DEY TOOK OUR JOBSSSS!!!!!

In all seriousness, if you think the problem with our debt rising is due to 'immigrants'...wow. Yes, it totally has nothing to do with an on-going military engagement in a foreign country for a period of .... hey do you even know how many years? I know right? Its so long its almost hard to remember when we declared war on Iraq... let alone moved troops months earlier into Afganistan. I'm sure that the trillion or two dollars spent on that war didn't increase our debt substantially at all :rollseyes:
 

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Beat the crap out of? When did we start competing for the biggest dick competition?
China is a fucked up nation, with little or no regard for personal freedoms, political corruption is rampant and combined with their unsustainable environmental practices, they will destroy themselves.
Millions of kids in the US will be educated in college with a major of their choice, sometimes helped by the government. That freedom to choose, is part of what makes our country great, we don't need to compare ourselves to the Commies to validate our awesomeness.

Very apt comparison about China. They being a nation with little or no regard for personal freedoms, rampant political corruption and poor environment practices with a downright almost facist government.

Everyone knows those countries with little or no regard for personal freedom and facist governments fail. They expand very slowly, get things done very slowly and are highly inefficient. Just look at how Germany collapsed in on itself in World War 2. Sure, through facism, strong national pride, and a few corrupt people in power, they were able to barely took over like the majority of the European contenient and a large portion of Asia but thats only like 30% of the world. ;)

It's a good thing today that a LOT of CHINESE ENTERTAINMENT features "Western" states attacking/beliating/demoralizing/humilitating China in the 1800s only to see the "superior hearted" chinese minority overcoming and crushing the "Western" filth/countries. Like tons of movies about the Boxer revolution, etc. That's not propaganda about all of societies problems in China are a result of the West. What with that wide spread environmental problems caused by trying to meet the West's demand for cheap consumable goods would leave no hurt-feelings if it was America that had been turned into a wasteland, right? None at all.

China will definately fail. They haven't already captured a lion's share of America's manufacturing infrastructure and moved it right into their own country, are now buying up real estate and have basically made America into a debt slave of a country. They definately have not done the same thing to several promenient european countries. If the European market's crash, they definately won't be able to accelerate the rate at which they own the world.

No no, fasicm and communism will totally fail against the holy light that is America's Wallstreet weilding the great saber of Capitalism. /sarcist rant :)
 

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So so true. Those illegal invading nasty horrible terrible awful source-of-all-known-problems-since-christ-hung-himself-for-us aliens are totally ruining the system. Why they come into our country and work at McDonalds so our sons and daughters can't work at McDonalds during the evening shift doing janitorial work. How can they have a future when they can't work at McDonalds between the hours of 4:00am to 8:00am cleaning the men and women's bathrooms part time?

Then, they take their non-existant social security number and use it to apply for social security totally draining that system too! They collect massive amounts of welfare every year even though they have no social security number which is necessary to collect welfare. Think about it and the crazy loophole logic might start to make sense. It's just like those evil nasty illegal immigrants to trick us.

Lastly, they suck our healthcare system dry. The free healthcare offered to every Man Woman and Child in this great United States of 'Canada' allows these illegal immigrants to walk right into our hospital and show their top-quality insurance card from their local McDonalds job and get free treatment. B/c you totally need private insurance to get care, and they have it, right? am I right or am I right? See my crazy theories make as much sense as your logic! Infact, they are so insidiously evil they even go as far as using their care cards to get free Obama-healthcare that they applied for with their non-existant social security number.

Damn those immigrants. DEY TOOK OUR JOBSSSS!!!!!

In all seriousness, if you think the problem with our debt rising is due to 'immigrants'...wow. Yes, it totally has nothing to do with an on-going military engagement in a foreign country for a period of .... hey do you even know how many years? I know right? Its so long its almost hard to remember when we declared war on Iraq... let alone moved troops months earlier into Afganistan. I'm sure that the trillion or two dollars spent on that war didn't increase our debt substantially at all :rollseyes:

illegal immigrants aren't driving up debt, but you can be damn sure Obamacare will drive up the price of health care. It is simple supply and demand.
 
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