China Releases Insane Video Of It Attacking The U.S.

The video was entertaining but I highly doubt anyone in the Chinese military really believes this to be the case.

I loved the video showing them shooting of 15'ish SRBM's super close to one another, yea super smart. :D
 
I cant see China going to war simply because it would cost them money and they are all about the money.
 
ianken said:
At best, they're one "generation" behind. Go watch the videos from this year's MAKS air show.
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Air shows don't mean much, if anything, in real world combat. The Russians are a good bit behind in avionics, and the Chinese even further behind. There is a reason the new Flankers have avionics that are French built. Likewise, so is their new APC. They have occasionally leaped ahead of us (R-73 VS AIM-9M in the 80s), and have better short range air defense systems but on the whole they're not on par with the US, UK, France ect.

Good news is, I sincerely doubt a shooting war between the US, Russia or PRC will occur anytime soon. But 20-30 years down the future? Maybe.
 
Tyler-Durden said:
Not if the appallingly over-budget and under-performing F-35 strike aircraft is any indication.
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its as good or better then a F-16 for most things it just sucks at CAS
but it doesnt have to be the be all end all air to air ether thats what CAP flights of F-22s are for
and it doenst have to be a great bomber thats what B-1, B-2 and B-52s are for

it just as to be OK at every thing to fill gaps

but it sucks for CAS (A-10 is king here) and fleet defense (the F-14 was king of this)
 
heatlesssun said:
An all out military confrontation against the US by anyone would end in nothing less than Armageddon. There's little logically to be gained by such a conflict.
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They have too many men there. War is the riches way to thin the herd:eek:
 
SixFootDuo said:
The United States are a several generations ahead militarily of China and Russia, our closest competitors.

Plus with all the hacking going on and stolen military secrets, do not put it past the US to use honey-pot Trojan Horse servers to distribute schematics / designs that provide some type of back door access / shut-down feature.
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It's been done before with Russian and the honey-pot schematics often resulted in crashes. The Tu-144 Concorde knockoff resulted in a complete hull loss at the Paris Air Show because the leaked schematic had an intentional design flaw. Embarrassing.
 
Trimlock said:
The video was entertaining but I highly doubt anyone in the Chinese military really believes this to be the case.

I loved the video showing them shooting of 15'ish SRBM's super close to one another, yea super smart. :D
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The point that the video is making is political gesturing to mostly Japan, as in that "uncle Sam's not gonna be able to save you." Xi Jinping's whole speech during the very parade where this video went live in was that he wanted "peaceful resolutions," as in carrying a big stick and speaking softly to paraphrase old Theodore Roosevelt.

Much of it has little value militarily. Chinese do fantasize about the Liaoning being operational and acting as a full-fledged carrier along with other things, but that's not what should be taken from this video. Rather, it's the Chinese aspiration to control and hold onto the South China sea and extending maritime jurisdiction all the way to Okinawa that really matters here.
 
Hypothetically speaking... if the US were to go to war with China, would the US borrow more money from China to fight China? It's like a mother giving her child money, so the child can get her a gift for mothers day lmao

The only reason why the US is "miles ahead" of others militarily speaking is probably because the US spends more on military than the next 13 countries combined.
 
The number 1 factor that makes invasion of the U.S. a very bad idea by anyone is because it is the most armed place in the world door to door and has always protected our freedom and why we have never seen a invasion force as it is another standing armed army that is never thought about as defend..

Fight for your rights to bear arms to protect freedom.
 
fanboy said:
The number 1 factor that makes invasion of the U.S. a very bad idea by anyone is because it is the most armed place in the world door to door and has always protected our freedom and why we have never seen a invasion force as it is another standing armed army that is never thought about as defend..

Fight for your rights to bear arms to protect freedom.
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Nobody in his right mind would bother an invasion of the continental United States. The real game afoot isn't there.

To me, the question is how the US will go about to maintain its hegemony over Asia-Pacific when Taiwan clearly couldn't keep up with China, that Philippine is unable to stand on its own, Korea unable and unwilling to exert itself out of Yellow Sea, Japan being hesitant to shoulder the obligation and nobody from southeast Asia having a unified vision on how to move forward.
 
fanboy said:
The number 1 factor that makes invasion of the U.S. a very bad idea by anyone is because it is the most armed place in the world door to door and has always protected our freedom and why we have never seen a invasion force as it is another standing armed army that is never thought about as defend..

Fight for your rights to bear arms to protect freedom.
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That's not entierly true. In order to invade the U.S. you'll have to either cross a vast ocean (we'll see you coming) or you'll have to invade our neighbors Canada or Mexico, both of whom are allies with us.

Kind of the same reason why Austrailia has never been invaded.
 
I would think an attack by the Chinese would all but guarantee that the US would not pay them back. So....China attacks the US. The US kicks the ever living shit out of them, and then the US government simply says....we don't owe you anything.

Sounds like China has a lot more to lose.
 
Sgraffite said:
Some sort of scary golf related man?
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Bogey man, bogeyman, boogyman, boogieman, bogieman, bogieman.

All correct spellings in various dialects of English. Traditionally Bogey Man and Bogeyman would be the only correct ones though. Of course language is fluid, American English is very phonetic, spelling plough as plow, or honour as honor, etc. Hence the extra "o" to emphasise the "boo" in boogie.
 
fanboy said:
The number 1 factor that makes invasion of the U.S. a very bad idea by anyone is because it is the most armed place in the world door to door and has always protected our freedom and why we have never seen a invasion force as it is another standing armed army that is never thought about as defend..

Fight for your rights to bear arms to protect freedom.
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Others covered the rest. No country has the logistics to invade the US, and every other navy in the world is a sad joke compared to the US Navy. No one is close to beating the USN, and if Canada was invaded we'd come to their assistance. Same with Mexico. But no one has any plans on invading the US.

About the "standing army", 98% are almost worthless. A couple of hunters who shoot a few times a year won't matter much. The few with military training (not firearm manipulation classes, actual military training) aren't enough to make much of a difference. They'd also need to be equipped with gear and appropriate weapons. Semi automatic rifles aren't going to cut it.
 
Repeating my youtube comments here:

>USA's defense on land is one plane blowing up mid take off
>Battleships, subs and one aircraft carrier, which have ICBM's, don't fire back at chinese forces

This isn't just bad, its laughably bad.

Also remember everyone China is in a huge PR battle right now with their population and have started a mass propaganda campaign to increase "National pride" by stating that they won World War II.
 
TFchris said:
Hypothetically speaking... if the US were to go to war with China, would the US borrow more money from China to fight China? It's like a mother giving her child money, so the child can get her a gift for mothers day lmao

The only reason why the US is "miles ahead" of others militarily speaking is probably because the US spends more on military than the next 13 countries combined.
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Thank you, Captain Obvious.
 
An update on the article calls out Chinese gaming company QQ/Qzone as a likely producer of the video.

The article also mentioned that the island appeared to be Okinawa, not Taiwan.
 
N4CR said:
And most people don't know that Russian SSM and ASM missiles are superior by a decent margin. They can't afford to go all out on all military niches but missiles are what they specialise in. SAMs also they do pretty well with too.
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Meanwhile, the our SSMs are really low priority, because we just don't have any real targets.
 
That's cute. I thought this level of comedic material only came out of north korea?
 
SixFootDuo said:
The United States are a several generations ahead militarily of China and Russia, our closest competitors.
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hmm, yea, the F-35 that is more threatening to its pilot than anything else? and which was it that needed air conditioned hangars? F-22 or B-2? can't remember.
 
Flogger23m said:
About the "standing army", 98% are almost worthless. A couple of hunters who shoot a few times a year won't matter much. The few with military training (not firearm manipulation classes, actual military training) aren't enough to make much of a difference. They'd also need to be equipped with gear and appropriate weapons. Semi automatic rifles aren't going to cut it.
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I'd argue that major cities could cause an invading nation quite a bit of trouble with some organized gangs. Also, lets not forget that a huge portion of the Marine Corps are along the west coast. I know as a veteran, and a lot of my brothers would agree with me, that if a foreign army some how established a beachhead on the continental US, there'd be a mass migration of veterans towards that beach head.
 
Automaticman said:
An update on the article calls out Chinese gaming company QQ/Qzone as a likely producer of the video.

The article also mentioned that the island appeared to be Okinawa, not Taiwan.
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ShamisOMally said:
Repeating my youtube comments here:

>USA's defense on land is one plane blowing up mid take off
>Battleships, subs and one aircraft carrier, which have ICBM's, don't fire back at chinese forces

This isn't just bad, its laughably bad.

Also remember everyone China is in a huge PR battle right now with their population and have started a mass propaganda campaign to increase "National pride" by stating that they won World War II.
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The Chinese have been fanning the nationalism card for a while. And I am glad that at least some of the posters have noticed that the Chinese are talking about a "counterattack" from having their island airstrips that they are building now over South China Sea with a decapitating blow to Okinawa.
 
If there was a direct conflict with a country like China or Russia you would see the US bring out weapons so advanced it would be like a 23rd century sci-fi movie. Heck the Pentagon has race specific bio-weapons.
 
temujin987 said:
hmm, yea, the F-35 that is more threatening to its pilot than anything else? and which was it that needed air conditioned hangars? F-22 or B-2? can't remember.
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First time I heard that. But, its a whole lot better than the country that can't build engines and its own domestic fighter projects are a sad joke. They're even having difficulty reverse engineering the Su-33s they bought from Ukraine. Avionics wise, the Chinese are essentially in the 80s. There is a reason why they're trying to buy new Flanker models from Russia.

USMCGrunt said:
I'd argue that major cities could cause an invading nation quite a bit of trouble with some organized gangs. Also, lets not forget that a huge portion of the Marine Corps are along the west coast. I know as a veteran, and a lot of my brothers would agree with me, that if a foreign army some how established a beachhead on the continental US, there'd be a mass migration of veterans towards that beach head.
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Problem is mainly equipment, logistics and command as you'd probably guess. I'd imagine many veterans are out of shape (old ect.). The overall numbers just aren't enough to make much of a difference... then again, this is such an absurd scenario in the first place, so maybe they can. :D

We'll worry about that when an adversary can field a blue water navy worth a damn. ;)
 
Just carpet bomb those Chinese locusts with nukes until the entire country turn into a wasteland. No one would shed a tear.
 
Flogger23m said:
Problem is mainly equipment, logistics and command as you'd probably guess. I'd imagine many veterans are out of shape (old ect.).

We'll worry about that when an adversary can field a blue water navy worth a damn. ;)
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Those are all pretty easily overcome being that the US has tons of consumer products on par or better than what the Corps issues, lol. We've also got social media platforms for initial organization and communication. The out of shape thing, eh...I cant say I agree with you there either. I for one, am not in Marine Corps shape but I could probably still do 3 miles in 30-ish minutes. The other Marines that I served with, that I keep in touch with, they're all doing LEO type jobs and still pretty fit.

I think the Chinese might be the closest thing we could call a threat to CONUS and they are nowhere near capable of doing it.
 
EndlessRed said:
Just carpet bomb those Chinese locusts with nukes until the entire country turn into a wasteland. No one would shed a tear.
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I think we would all shed a tear, cheap labor isn't the only reason we get all our electronics from them. China has the largest deposit/producer of rare earth elements used in electronics. At this point in history, there's no land that we can cut out of the global economy without it creating a significant effect on the global economy.
 
ianken said:
At best, they're one "generation" behind. Go watch the videos from this year's MAKS air show.

The Tu-50 was pretty awesome.

The Su-30m with its insane thrust vectoring was absurd.

I know the response to this: we have better electronics. We thought that in Vietnam too, so the F4 didn't have a gun. That was a rough lesson.

Considering the F35 Boondoggle II just got it's ass whipped by an F-16 I'd not put too much faith in American aerospace superiority right now, it's there to pad the pockets of Boeing and Lockheed not defend the nation.
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The US won every single battle and military engagement of the Vietnam war. It's important to remember that it was a proxy battle between the US and the Soviet Union.

General William C. Westmoreland was not allowed to invade North Vietnam nor did he control the South Vietnamese army. If the Soviet Union weren't a factor and there was nor risk of the conflict extending and possibly starting WWIII then the US would have simply invaded North Vietnam and the war would have been over in 2-3 months.

As far as China attacking the US is concerned, please. Neither China nor Russia have the naval or air power for such a campaign and Russia doesn't have the manpower. China may have more meat for the grinder but it's soldiers aren't particularly well trained. Regardless of what happened during an air show, neither one of them are capable of projecting military power very far behind their own borders and they are both light years behind the US when it comes to technology. Even if nukes weren't a factor and they were able to somehow defeat the US Navy, Airforce, and Coast Guard, they'd have to deal with over 300 million armed US citizens and law enforcement officials.
 
Flogger23m said:
Others covered the rest. No country has the logistics to invade the US, and every other navy in the world is a sad joke compared to the US Navy. No one is close to beating the USN, and if Canada was invaded we'd come to their assistance. Same with Mexico. But no one has any plans on invading the US.

About the "standing army", 98% are almost worthless. A couple of hunters who shoot a few times a year won't matter much. The few with military training (not firearm manipulation classes, actual military training) aren't enough to make much of a difference. They'd also need to be equipped with gear and appropriate weapons. Semi automatic rifles aren't going to cut it.
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Nonsense, GO WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAA!!
 
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