Can we get CD-R made in Japan in the near future?

Falkentyne

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Man I could understand DVD+R or that "newer" DVD disk format (that apparently has super long longevity, I forgot what it's called) made in Japan, but CD-R? Oh man.
And I was the biggest Japan media + Liteon burner drive back in the day and even I stopped caring about CDR. I think I have a 50 stack of CD-R's still in the closet, unopened (probably TY).
I remember stocking up on that stuff from Staples long ago, when Staples was the best way to get Taiyo Yudens....

Two decades ago wasn't bad either.
 

drutman

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I can see using them for sales, my relative managed many R&R bands he used to sell them at concerts. Now you download mp3 or stream his stuff.
 

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CD sales have dropped 90% in the last 5 years. CD-Rs are dead as storage media; It's all in the cloud now.
 

RanceJustice

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If you are finding it difficult to find older Taiyo Yuden discs these days yet really want durable optical media and are willing to pay, you might want to look into M-Disc DVDs and BluRays. I am unsure if they make CD types or not, but the DVD / BluRay recordables use a completely different media that gives them a hundreds-to-thousands of year lifespan. Provided you have a CD/DVD/BluRay burner that's compatible, these are likely to most accessible form of durable optical media around ; some alternatives require specialized writers/pressers or extremely expensive media.
 

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Yay glad I'm not the only one who refuses to give up optical drives and physical media!

In the streaming cancel culture nothing is guaranteed to be there the next second (I am using Paramount + as an example they took off some of the old "classic" SpongeBob episodes) good thing I have them on the Season 1,2 & 3 discs I got when they were new (and yes I made several ISO backups of them to my many drives) but pressed discs seem to last much longer then the "burnable" types do, but I have never had one not read from "bit-rot" physical damage yes

PS: I occasionally do burn a CD as my old Bose Wave Radio (old model with no MP3 capability) to listen to at night as the Bose is just an expensive glorfied alarm clock (good thing it was a gift)
 

pendragon1

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give up already, they dont exist anymore. the ones i linked on the first page are as close as youll get. got it?!
 

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give up already, they dont exist anymore. the ones i linked on the first page are as close as youll get. got it?!

Yes the days of good quality optical media are pretty much gone :(
I think you can still burn a CD image on to a DVD disc (as I have done before) but you still need a DVD player or ROM to be able to use them even if the contents are a CD image.
 

pendragon1

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Yes the days of good quality optical media are pretty much gone :(
I think you can still burn a CD image on to a DVD disc (as I have done before) but you still need a DVD player or ROM to be able to use them even if the contents are a CD image.
lol. that wasnt directed at you, just happened to be after your post.
yes, you are right about the cd-dvd thing.
 

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Yes the days of good quality optical media are pretty much gone :(
I think you can still burn a CD image on to a DVD disc (as I have done before) but you still need a DVD player or ROM to be able to use them even if the contents are a CD image.
exactly how? as I use Nero 10, and they have an option called Audio CD. So I select that format, and Nero then allows me to drag and drop all the WAV file or FLAC file to the list, and burn it, and the final CD will be a format recognize by my blu-ray universal player.

But when I look at Nero under DVD, there is only DVD Video, so how do you do it to make any Blu-ray univeral player able to view the disc as an CD audio disc
 

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exactly how? as I use Nero 10, and they have an option called Audio CD. So I select that format, and Nero then allows me to drag and drop all the WAV file or FLAC file to the list, and burn it, and the final CD will be a format recognize by my blu-ray universal player.

But when I look at Nero under DVD, there is only DVD Video, so how do you do it to make any Blu-ray univeral player able to view the disc as an CD audio disc
I guess I was misleading sorry this is for an image file (ISO or NRG) I see no way to burn an audio CD on to a DVD disc. My bad.
 

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I still have a spindle of Taiyo Yuden DVDs I haven't touched in a very long time.
 

waterbucket

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I can’t remember the last time I even burned something at all. Probably well over a decade ago.
 

defaultluser

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I still have a spindle of Taiyo DVD-R and CD-R discs. At my current rate of burning 1 disc per year for some random need, I think they'll last me forever.


Yeah, I stopped using mp3 cds in my car once I could get way better feature going USB stick.

You get instant track switch , plus album art, plus more than 700 mb!! You can even treat your old discs as "virtual CDs" by putting them in their own sub-folder (change the numbering if the current play order is getting dull.)

The last time I burned cds regular was when I burned our wedding album (100 tracks on mp3 cd) for take-home gifts five years back
 

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I have CDs I burned 20 years ago that still read fine... and I never really bought any specific brand. Whatever was cheapest at the time.

The only problem I have ever had is if the CD gets scratched up because of poor storage or accidental damage.

The BEST thing you can do to increase the burn quality and thus the length that the CDs last and also the drive compatibility is to burn the CDs at a slow speed. I usually burn at 8x or 16x depending on what the drive allows instead of the max speed the drive and CD supposedly supports.

If you really want to go crazy, you can drop the burn speed down to 4x so they will work with really, really old CD drives and players.

And that is how you generally don't have to worry about "bitrot" which seems to me to really be an issue with the way the drives are made and how the lasers get clouded over and also degrade.

So say you have a drive that works fine with your high-speed burn today. You use the same drive for a year or two and then that CD will not read in that drive anymore... most likely it is the laser that is the problem and not the CD. Drop the burn speed way down and those problems don't crop up near as often.
 

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I don't think I can subscribe to your theory. I burn some PDF magazine for my dad. He buy the Staple brand DVD. They are made in India. Every so often, the disc is dead.

when I burn those CNC Maxell DVD that I have trouble reading, I use the rated 16X speed. So it should work

The drive I use, is Pioneer made in Japan.

When I burn my own data, I would lower to below the rated speed, so for a 16X DVD, I would burn at 12X, for CD-R, I would burn at 24X instead of 40X.
 
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