Can "Autopilot" be added to your car (not just tesla) for $1000?

M76

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Apparently yes. Comma.ai shows comparable performance to factory lane keeping assistants with just a single forward looking camera.
It taps into the canbus system to control steering and throttle / brake inputs with a manufacturer specific wiring harness.
And it is completely plug and play. Just needs a few minutes to set itself up for the first use before you can turn it on.

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a30341053/self-driving-technology-comparison/
 

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I wonder how these systems do on roads with barely visible lane lines...I see plenty of roads that need to be re-painted.
They actually tested that aspect in the article, which you'd know if you have read it.
 

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I wonder how these systems do on roads with barely visible lane lines...I see plenty of roads that need to be re-painted.
There is a good YouTube video comparing open pilot to tesla autopilot. It does really well. I would definitely get one if I had a compatible vehicle.
You still have to pay attention and be ready to take over.
 

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Been following comma for a while. Hoping they get my new telluride on the list of vehicles, I'll give it a whirl. the Telluride can damn near already do all of that on it's own, it just seems to have it's limitations turned way up at the moment, but 90% of my drive on the highway to work, I can just sit there.. I suspect if this device ends up supporting my vehicle, it'll become even better.
 

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They actually tested that aspect in the article, which you'd know if you have read it.
I did read it....just skimmed some of it.
Always nice to see forum asshats stick around long term.
 

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I saw a youtube video when they demoed this originally at CES or SEMA a year back and it definitely looks promising.

But as everyone has already said - this looks like a liability magnet. Given how people love to sue, the first accident with one of these and everyone is getting served, including comma AI. Heck the car manufacturers themselves might be suing based upon the tampering with the car's built in safety system (you have to divert the signal from the built in driver assist to the Comma AI box and use it as a pass through - if I'm reading it correctly).
 

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There is a good YouTube video comparing open pilot to tesla autopilot. It does really well. I would definitely get one if I had a compatible vehicle.
You still have to pay attention and be ready to take over.
I just watched some.....no bad. It's interesting tech, but I don't ever see myself wanting it for any reason.
 

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I wonder how these systems do on roads with barely visible lane lines...I see plenty of roads that need to be re-painted.
I've got the Chrysler Pacifica with factory lane following assist, it has a pretty indicator in the dash that turns green when it's confident about the lines and ready to nudge; if it can't tell, it's not going to steer. The real question is what these systems do when the lanes are visible, but traffic isn't using them (due to stopped vehicles or snow or whatever obstruction), I haven't driven enough with mine to know for sure. My MIL has a Subaru with Eye sight, and that thing is obnoxious about telling you when it detects lanes/has lost lanes when going through intersections, etc, so systems vary.
 

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I wonder how these systems do on roads with barely visible lane lines...I see plenty of roads that need to be re-painted.
I got 2020 Ascent with eyesight factory installed and every time it snows this thing gets confused.
 

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This is nice! As someone that has Autopilot on a Tesla, love the idea of adding it to our second car. Will Order!
 

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This is legit. Ive been following him for some time. This is George Hotz or GeoHot the hacker known for his work on the PS3 and Sony going after him as well as the TowelRoot app. He was going to be the one who developed the Tesla Autopilot until it fell through at the last minute because Jim Keller responded. So he made this.

He did a stream about a year ago where he went to the dealership, bought a brand new car and installed it in the car and did a Canbus scan on it and it started working and he used it the whole drive home. This uses cameras that look forward and that look at you. So its able to follow other cars and not just road lines.The moment you take your eyes off the road it kicks autopilot off. Its a really slick deal.

He has two youtube channels
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW_9Y89RuQQFwMwSRLcI2fg/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwgKmJM4ZJQRJ-U5NjvR2dg
 

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I wonder how these systems do on roads with barely visible lane lines...I see plenty of roads that need to be re-painted.
In Paris, France the roads have been altered by unnecessary works to add areas for cycles, and were never rapaired nor with minimal maintenance for 20 years, nor any repaint in many parts. Luckily everything was perfect 20 years ago. However, wherever you have complicated crossroads, with several traffic lights, you don't even know at what level to stop. Many traffic lights are not even in good position or well oriented. Also there are plenty of unfinished works on the streets with holes.
I know someone who tested the most advanced system from Audi, not even sold yet. It works great about everywhere in France, roads, and big cities, and even in Paris suburbs, but in Paris it stops about everywhere and asks to take control.
 

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However, plenty of cars are equipped with autopilots yet. Many are not yet fully active, but some are and working on some cases. There are small cars like the new Renault Clio who has it. It doesn't cost a lot to add it now. It's like much less than 1000$ so it will be going into every new model. It needs some kind CPU with a big GPU, something on par with a high end smartphone without the costy screen, the navigation system and some cameras and radars being already on most of the cars. The steering is already controlled by the assistance which has become electronic. All the rest is fully electronically controlled. The maps are already in place with the navigation system with GPS. Many cars already can avoid situations with total GPS signal loss by using speed and steering angle and a gyroscope. Also a camera reads the traffic lights and the traffic panels with recognition. The big thing is the programming but nearly everything is in place and Tesla has no lead in this. It's only that Tesla is the first to dare to let the driver to have confidence in this. I bet in a couple of years all the cars will have this completely implemented and working. A blind man could be driving his own car in the very near future. That means lots of older people with AMD for instance.
 

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Sure as long as the car has fly by wire and fly by throttle. How else is the computer going to control the car?
 

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Sure as long as the car has fly by wire and fly by throttle. How else is the computer going to control the car?
Which is basically every car nowadays except for a few budget models aimed at the east or south America.
 

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I did read it....just skimmed some of it.
Always nice to see forum asshats stick around long term.
I did do my homework, but the dog ate it! I know almost nobody reads the linked articles, but most at least admit to it instead of making further fools out of themselves by acting offended when called out.
 

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Latest BMW autopilot is pretty hit and miss. Mate was on autobahn at 220kmh with it and it tried to steer them into the barrier suddenly, on a clear motorway with no other cars and well painted lines - they don't trust it lol.
 
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